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has anybody tried the Toca 2 demo

Ben

has anybody tried the Toca 2 demo

by Ben » Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Actually local calls are flat rate (about $0.40)...but ISP charges may be by
the minute or Mb.

Ben


>SNIP Lots of stuff concerning the abundance of "free local phone calls in
USA"

>David I'm pretty sure that in Australia they pay for there local phone
calls, pretty
>much in the same way as we in Europe and probably the rest of the world
too.
>So It isn't just a case of going to bed or going to a bar or whatever WE
have to think
>of it in a monetary thang also.
>Like the TOCA 2 demo wont work on my machine "pretty standard hardware" so
I spent 2
>hours on my phone for NOTHING.

Jack

has anybody tried the Toca 2 demo

by Jack » Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Okay, Daxe, that does it!

We're withdrawing your nomination for ambassador to the United Nations.

Paul Jone

has anybody tried the Toca 2 demo

by Paul Jone » Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Well, AOL and Compuserve apart (both American companies) the standard in hick lille UK
is about 10 GBP for 1 month's unlimited access,
Cheers,
Paul



> >Actually local calls are flat rate (about $0.40)...but ISP charges may be
> by
> >the minute or Mb.

> That is dreadful!

> Back about 4-5 years ago, internet access of any kind outside of a school
> was hourly and pretty expensive if you spent much time there, but it quickly
> dropped to 15~20$ a month for unlimited access and that remains the
> standard.  I figured the rest of the world was keeping up with the advance
> of technology, but forgot that prices are somewhat less market-driven in
> places with economies that are less free or with utilities that are
> state-owned or controlled.

> Huh.

> daex

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Paul Jone

has anybody tried the Toca 2 demo

by Paul Jone » Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:00:00

About 16-17 USD depending on exchange rate,
Cheers,
Paul



> >Well, AOL and Compuserve apart (both American companies) the standard in
> hick lille UK
> >is about 10 GBP for 1 month's unlimited access,
> >Cheers,
> >Paul

> Thats about 20$ US, right?  And AOL owns Compuserve, btw.

> dx

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Bern

has anybody tried the Toca 2 demo

by Bern » Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Regardless, what is the point of wasting anything an a demo that wont work?
I may aswell leave my pc off. And as most people pointed out you did make
some big american assumptions in that post didnt you. If I just logged on
and started downloading it could take over a week to get it down.

Paul Jone

has anybody tried the Toca 2 demo

by Paul Jone » Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:00:00

You're the only person I've hear say it doesn't work and you haven't even tried
it! Nearest I've heard is someone who has transparent triangles on his Voodoo2
with this and other games and $100 says that's down to the drivers he's using.
Cheers,
Paul

> >>After that unofficial colin mcrae demo didnt work on my voodoo card im not
> >>gonna download 20meg for nothing!

> >When did downloading something become an effort?  You just start the
> >download and do something else until it's done.  <big snip>

> Regardless, what is the point of wasting anything an a demo that wont work?
> I may aswell leave my pc off. And as most people pointed out you did make
> some big american assumptions in that post didnt you. If I just logged on
> and started downloading it could take over a week to get it down.

Nathan Wo

has anybody tried the Toca 2 demo

by Nathan Wo » Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:00:00



Try 25c from Telstra and 20c from Optus. Whoever you are paying 40c is
ripping you off.

--
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Paul McGuir

has anybody tried the Toca 2 demo

by Paul McGuir » Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:00:00


> You're the only person I've hear say it doesn't work and you haven't even tried
> it! Nearest I've heard is someone who has transparent triangles on his Voodoo2
> with this and other games and $100 says that's down to the drivers he's using.
> Cheers,
> Paul

Actually I cant get it to work either :)
I get no video choices in the setup screen (V2 SLI&TNT)
So I cant start the game :(
ttam

has anybody tried the Toca 2 demo

by ttam » Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:00:00


>Back about 4-5 years ago, internet access of any kind outside of a school
>was hourly and pretty expensive if you spent much time there, but it quickly
>dropped to 15~20$ a month for unlimited access and that remains the
>standard.  I figured the rest of the world was keeping up with the advance
>of technology, but forgot that prices are somewhat less market-driven in
>places with economies that are less free or with utilities that are
>state-owned or controlled.

Wasn't there in fact discussions floating around in US some time ago
that the telephone operators in US were considering moving into pay
per minute in local calls too? Has there been any more news about it?

Here where I live it used to be so that outside "office hours" (7-17)
the local calls were "flat rate" in that no matter how long the call
took, it cost only half a FIM or so (1 FIM ~ 0.15 USD). So I could
keep the line open for whole weekend, and it still cost the same.

But recently (last year?) they changed it, so it isn't possible
anymore. The reason is simple: many people really kept their lines
open whole weekend or whole night (thanks to the internet boom), and
still paid only that measly 0.5 FIM for it. That's poor business for
the tele companies, because those open lines (both analog and ISDN)
still reserve resources from the switches, even if there is no data
going in there. I'm sure many US operators have the same problem.

BTW another thing to consider is that "local call area" in here mean a
much much wider area than in US generally. As far as I know in many US
cities alone there are several "local call areas", while here a local
call area usually consists of several cities (albeit smaller cities),
and geographically a MUCH wider area. But of course that doesn't
matter if the ISP you like to use is next to you in your local call
area.

Dhook4

has anybody tried the Toca 2 demo

by Dhook4 » Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Wasn't the right to free local phone calls one of the main reasons the Pilgrims
left that side of the pond in the first place?  God bless America !!!!!!!  
:-)

Doug.........Lifelong die hard Boston Bruins fan....Driving Sim racer....avid
Sam Adams drinker....3 Stooges fan....Proud American !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

U2

has anybody tried the Toca 2 demo

by U2 » Sat, 30 Jan 1999 04:00:00

This American military pilot (after returning from Bosnia to keep the European
Peace) downloaded the TOCA2 only to find that it won't run. "unable to find
installation language in C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\TOCA2D~1\SETUP.LID file". I guess I'll
crack open a German beer and watch another episode of "Two Fat Ladies" and hope
someone on this planet can help me out. Cheers to world harmony. Chuck


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