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LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

GTX_SlotCa

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by GTX_SlotCa » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00


  Hehe, a very good point. Given a choice, I'd rather feel FF in my ***and
back than in the wheel. Of course, the easier part of learning to drive a
sim  is that we can crash them without regard. No pain or hosptal bills, and
no half million dollar replacement costs.

Slot

rrevv

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by rrevv » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00


>How do you get the bumper view? I can find nothing  that tells you how to.

>Andi.

Press F1 a few times.

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ymenar

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by ymenar » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Your point is true but it's not the problem here.  If they market a game as
a pure-arcade game, and target it to the correct focus market, nobody would
be reviewing it.  After a week, we would all have forgotten it.  Just
another arcade game.  We have nothing against them.  Some of them are really
fun and ***ive.

BUT

They producing and developing company has marketed and hyped the title as a
serious racing simulator.  Some press release focused on realistic game
physics, "better than any product on the market".  Hence they targeted it to
serious racing simulator fans, who bought it thinking it would be realistic.
And it was not.  This has happened so much in the last year, it's getting
worse and worse.

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Andre Warring

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by Andre Warring » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I bet a lot of people have been hanged in your country then. Doesn't
allmost EVERY game have quotes like 'SUPERB GRAPHICS', 'EXCITING
GAMEPLAY' and 'BETTER THAN CATS!' on the box and their website?

Andre

On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 07:18:25 +1100, "Bruce Kennewell"


>In this country it would be reason for legal action under the false
>advertising laws.

mark

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by mark » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Dear James

I'm reading this newsgroup to try to find some useful opinions on Le Mans
24Hr before I buy it (or not).

If you haven't got anything useful, constructive or even just "mature" to
say then please SHUT THE *** UP you ***.


>On the following date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 13:10:12 -0000, said person(s)

>>Okay, so LeMans 24hrs aint a realistic simulation. Apart from GPL,
>>what other racing "game" IS realistic?

>Indycar, Indycar 2, NASCAR, NASCAR 2, NASCAR 3, Sports Car GT, MGPR,
>Soda, DTR, need I go on?

>>GPL has spoiled us...

>Umm.. I don't like GPL.. so that idea is ummm... wrong.

>>But, LeMans is great fun once you sort out the calibration!

>And figure out that sex on a washing machine at full cycle really is
>pretty damn cool.

>>Forget all
>>the concentration needed for GPL,

>And take 2 Prozacs and stand upside down in your chair.

>>just go out there and drive the
>>thing!

>No, the above line should read...
>"Go out there and hold the joystick as if you were actually going to
>get to drive the thing"

>>Its a great blast, and the changing light as the sun moves is real
>>cool.

>Ohhh buddy.. I tell you.. A moving sun is THE thing I look for in a
>racing sim.

>>You get that feeling of being blinded by the low sun at dawn too!

>I can get the same effect by taking a flashlight and staring into it
>while it's on.

>>Also, you have to drive to conserve your tyres and engine, and this is
>>implemented quite well.

>LOL! Where?
>Oh, you mean when you rub against the velcro walls?

>>LeMans sure aint no sim,
>...and it sure aint no fun neither.

>>but there's a lot of
>>fun to be had without the 'hassle' of spending a year learning to drive
>>the cars!

>You are definitely the target group they were looking for.
>Let's see.. gas, brake, steering wheel.. No stop the insanity.. too
>many variables.. Paradox, Paradox, Paradox!

>>I found approx 25% sensitivity works well.

>With Trojan Gold sensitive you get about 33% more sensitivity.

>>Lol SpeedFreek

>Speedfreek, the fact remains. they should not have advertised the game
>being a sim that has the most accurate physics model "unsurpassed" by
>any other sim.
>hell, NASCAR Revolution has better physics model than this total piece
>of cow dung.

>- James "Gunslinger" Wohlever

>Techware Motorsports
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/

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LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by James Wohleve » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

On the following date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:09:47 -0000, said person(s)

hey marc... make me

- James "Gunslinger" Wohlever

Techware Computer Services
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mark

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by mark » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Your spelling isn't very good is it?

>On the following date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:09:47 -0000, said person(s)

>>Dear James

>>I'm reading this newsgroup to try to find some useful opinions on Le Mans
>>24Hr before I buy it (or not).

>>If you haven't got anything useful, constructive or even just "mature" to
>>say then please SHUT THE *** UP you ***.

>hey marc... make me

>- James "Gunslinger" Wohlever

>Techware Computer Services
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to:


James Wohleve

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by James Wohleve » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

On the following date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:37:22 -0000, said person(s)

>Your spelling isn't very good is it?


>>On the following date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:09:47 -0000, said person(s)

>>>Dear James

>>>I'm reading this newsgroup to try to find some useful opinions on Le Mans
>>>24Hr before I buy it (or not).

>>>If you haven't got anything useful, constructive or even just "mature" to
>>>say then please SHUT THE *** UP you ***.

>>hey marc... make me

Dearest Marcie Poo, (That better?)

Is tho thee same Marc that electronically messaged myself a few
fleeting moments ago with filth pouring from thee electronic mail?

Did I get all my punctuation right this time?
Can you read it now?
Do I need some one to translate it for you?
Are you that anal-retentive that some one not agreeing with you causes
you to go postal?

Oh, and if you are the British guy that got upset because I said
British Commentary in my review, "postal" means picking up a gun and
killing anyone in sight.

Glad I could be of service.

Love Always,

Gunslinger-Poo

- James "Gunslinger" Wohlever

Techware Computer Services
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

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Andre Warring

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by Andre Warring » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

And I was affraid I would be the only one who liked it....
what a relief, now there's two of us :)
Oh wait, all the guys who wrote that they didn't like it haven't
actually played it yet. Maybe they'll change their minds once they
actually gave it a try...

Andre



Bruce Kennewel

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00

In this country it would be reason for legal action under the false
advertising laws.

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Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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Andrew Cowel

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by Andrew Cowel » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00

OK, come on James admit it - you just don't like it do you?!
Andrew ;~))
Andrew Cowel

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by Andrew Cowel » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00

....although you would have to wonder to why a driver of obvious talent like
Zinardi has struggled so much when moving from one type of open wheeler to
another. Just a thought.
Andrew.
Zoll

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by Zoll » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00



pressing 'insert'...

CU
Zolli

SpeedFree

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by SpeedFree » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Heh, forget ALL the pre-release hype! All we can go on is
what is printed on the game-box!! And there is NO mention
of the most accurate physics ever on the box, so there is nothing
to complain about... This is what is says on the box....

Arcade, Championship and Le Mans modes, with round the clock
racing, night time driving and realistic lighting effects.

The full 24 Heures du Mans experience, officially liscensed from
the A.C.O, organisers of the race.

8 spectacular 3-D, photo-realistic tracks.

Le Mans Mode featuring real-time 24 hours racing option.

A true physics racing model complete with ultra realistic AI.

True to life handling, with each of the GT1, GT2 and Prototype
cars tuned according to te manufacturers technical data.

All the teams featured are authentic Le Mans competitors.

That's ALL it says on the box...   comments?

ymenar

LeMans 24hrs aint no SIM, but it's FUN!

by ymenar » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00


First of all, hype is not something that is found only on a box. It's found
in press release, previews they send to *** website.  Those same websites
who will promote it as serious because it's a tight situation (they won't
refuse of course). It's found in the promotion they do via advertising.
It's done also when they go to conventions and expositions and hype their
product.  The box is only one of the X number of way to false hype the
customer and misled them.

So here, pushing the edge of semantics and truth with the usage of the word
"true".

pushing the edge of semantics and truth with the usage of the word "true".
I doubt they used technical data to create their "true" to life handling.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."


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