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REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

@qmail.bs.jhu.ed

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by @qmail.bs.jhu.ed » Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Has anyone had trouble staying below the pit limit speed (for both
entering and exiting the pits). The car max speed with full throttle will
often go above the limit resulting in a black flag. Isn't the purpose of a
"rev-limiter" to keep me from doing this?

Any comments/help would be appreciated.

4/18/96

Eldred Picke

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by Eldred Picke » Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:00:00



>Subject: REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 05:23:44 -0500
>Has anyone had trouble staying below the pit limit speed (for both
>entering and exiting the pits). The car max speed with full throttle will
>often go above the limit resulting in a black flag. Isn't the purpose of a
>"rev-limiter" to keep me from doing this?
>Any comments/help would be appreciated.
>4/18/96

Well, you can't floor it...try about half throttle.  It will keep you right
about AT the speed limit.  You ARE using automatic braking, right?  If you're
using manual braking, it's up to the DRIVER to maintain the limit...
I am NOT paranoid.  And why are you always watching me?!?
Eldred Pickett


Josh Beauli

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by Josh Beauli » Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:00:00



>Subject: Re: REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 09:58:33


>>Subject: REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?
>>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 05:23:44 -0500
>>Has anyone had trouble staying below the pit limit speed (for both
>>entering and exiting the pits). The car max speed with full throttle will
>>often go above the limit resulting in a black flag. Isn't the purpose of a
>>"rev-limiter" to keep me from doing this?
>>Any comments/help would be appreciated.
>>4/18/96
>Well, you can't floor it...try about half throttle.  It will keep you right
>about AT the speed limit.  You ARE using automatic braking, right?  If you're
>using manual braking, it's up to the DRIVER to maintain the limit...
>I am NOT paranoid.  And why are you always watching me?!?
>Eldred Pickett


Hit Alt-B to toggle autobrake between on and off!!!  You won't go over 80 (at
least in ICR2 -- I think it works for NASCAR as well...)
Michael E. Carv

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by Michael E. Carv » Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:00:00



: Has anyone had trouble staying below the pit limit speed (for both
: entering and exiting the pits). The car max speed with full throttle will
: often go above the limit resulting in a black flag. Isn't the purpose of a
: "rev-limiter" to keep me from doing this?

: Any comments/help would be appreciated.

NASCAR drivers don't have a rev limiter, they don't even have a
speedometer.  They watch the tach.

IndyCar drivers do have a special button they push (when they remember
M. Andretti!), which will keep them under or at the pit speed limit.  

If you want to implement this in either NASCAR or ICR2, press the ALT/B
this will toggle auto braking on/off.  However, you must be at or under
the speed limit when entering the pits.  If you approach to fast the
auto-braking may not kick-in in time.  Also, I have had a couple of
occasions where I still ended up exceeding the pit speed limit with
auto-braking on.

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Eldred Picke

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by Eldred Picke » Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:00:00



>Subject: Re: REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:46:53 GMT


>>Subject: Re: REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?
>>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 09:58:33


>>>Subject: REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?
>>>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 05:23:44 -0500
>>>Has anyone had trouble staying below the pit limit speed (for both
>>>entering and exiting the pits). The car max speed with full throttle will
>>>often go above the limit resulting in a black flag. Isn't the purpose of a
>>>"rev-limiter" to keep me from doing this?
>>>Any comments/help would be appreciated.
>>>4/18/96
>>Well, you can't floor it...try about half throttle.  It will keep you right
>>about AT the speed limit.  You ARE using automatic braking, right?  If you're
>>using manual braking, it's up to the DRIVER to maintain the limit...
>>I am NOT paranoid.  And why are you always watching me?!?
>>Eldred Pickett

>Hit Alt-B to toggle autobrake between on and off!!!  You won't go over 80 (at
>least in ICR2 -- I think it works for NASCAR as well...)

No, even WITH autobrake, you'll still occasionally get black-flagged... :(

I am NOT paranoid.  And why are you always watching me?!?
Eldred Pickett


kaalan1

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by kaalan1 » Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:00:00


> Has anyone had trouble staying below the pit limit speed (for both
> entering and exiting the pits). The car max speed with full throttle will
> often go above the limit resulting in a black flag. Isn't the purpose of a
> "rev-limiter" to keep me from doing this?

I'm not familiar with ICR2 but in Nascar hitting Alt B will keep you below
55mph in the pits except for Taladega.  However the speed does creep up to 56
mph on some tracks and the black flag will come out if you keep your foot all
the way down on some tracks.  On others you will never get a black flag.????
David Kadlc

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by David Kadlc » Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:00:00


>Has anyone had trouble staying below the pit limit speed (for both
>entering and exiting the pits). The car max speed with full throttle will
>often go above the limit resulting in a black flag. Isn't the purpose of a
>"rev-limiter" to keep me from doing this?

   Use the speed-limiter-button <G>....  ALT-B, when you pass the pace
car, turn it off again.

Later,

Dave.

Martin Guillemet

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by Martin Guillemet » Sat, 20 Apr 1996 04:00:00


>Has anyone had trouble staying below the pit limit speed (for both
>entering and exiting the pits). The car max speed with full throttle will
>often go above the limit resulting in a black flag. Isn't the purpose of a
>"rev-limiter" to keep me from doing this?

>Any comments/help would be appreciated.

>4/18/96

Before i enter the pits, i always do <alt-B> to turn on the autobraking (i
drive with it off the rest of the time). Then i put it in 1st gear and floor
it. The autobraking prevents it from  going beyond 80mph.
When i exit the pits, i take off the autobrake <alt-B> and resume...

Hope it helps...

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Jo

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by Jo » Sat, 20 Apr 1996 04:00:00


>Before i enter the pits, i always do <alt-B> to turn on the autobraking (i
>drive with it off the rest of the time). Then i put it in 1st gear and floor
>it. The autobraking prevents it from  going beyond 80mph.
>When i exit the pits, i take off the autobrake <alt-B> and resume...

Good idea! I just lost a race today by hitting 82 in the pits
(accidentally went in to 2nd gear for an instant)... that is an
incredible bummer.

Here's a question- when are you technically "out of the pitts"? I've
gotten away with flooring it right after passing the pace car without
black-flag... is that the rule?

Eldred Picke

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by Eldred Picke » Sat, 20 Apr 1996 04:00:00



>Subject: Re: REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?
>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:09:32 GMT

>>Before i enter the pits, i always do <alt-B> to turn on the autobraking (i
>>drive with it off the rest of the time). Then i put it in 1st gear and floor
>>it. The autobraking prevents it from  going beyond 80mph.
>>When i exit the pits, i take off the autobrake <alt-B> and resume...
>Good idea! I just lost a race today by hitting 82 in the pits
>(accidentally went in to 2nd gear for an instant)... that is an
>incredible bummer.
>Here's a question- when are you technically "out of the pitts"? I've
>gotten away with flooring it right after passing the pace car without
>black-flag... is that the rule?

Isn't there a line across pit road?  If not, I think it's the trackside pit
wall.  When you're past that, you're clear.  Actually, now that I think of
it, you can test it in practice.  Turn autobraking on, and pay attention to
where the computer slows you down... Damn, that's TOO easy<g>.

I am NOT paranoid.  And why are you always watching me?!?
Eldred Pickett


Neil Yeatma

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by Neil Yeatma » Sun, 21 Apr 1996 04:00:00




> >Subject: Re: REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?
> >Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 18:09:32 GMT


> >>Before i enter the pits, i always do <alt-B> to turn on the autobraking (i
> >>drive with it off the rest of the time). Then i put it in 1st gear and floor
> >>it. The autobraking prevents it from  going beyond 80mph.
> >>When i exit the pits, i take off the autobrake <alt-B> and resume...

> >Good idea! I just lost a race today by hitting 82 in the pits
> >(accidentally went in to 2nd gear for an instant)... that is an
> >incredible bummer.

> >Here's a question- when are you technically "out of the pitts"? I've
> >gotten away with flooring it right after passing the pace car without
> >black-flag... is that the rule?

> Isn't there a line across pit road?  If not, I think it's the trackside pit
> wall.  When you're past that, you're clear.  Actually, now that I think of
> it, you can test it in practice.  Turn autobraking on, and pay attention to
> where the computer slows you down... Damn, that's TOO easy<g>.

> I am NOT paranoid.  And why are you always watching me?!?
> Eldred Pickett



I think what *look like* the Unocal 76 signs are the start/end markers for the
pits....on the ovals, anyway.  To save yourself a black flag, hit [Alt-B] before
you leave the pits to keep your speed below 80....

--
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel..


       Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

Martin Guillemet

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by Martin Guillemet » Wed, 24 Apr 1996 04:00:00



>>Before i enter the pits, i always do <alt-B> to turn on the autobraking (i
>>drive with it off the rest of the time). Then i put it in 1st gear and floor
>>it. The autobraking prevents it from  going beyond 80mph.
>>When i exit the pits, i take off the autobrake <alt-B> and resume...

>Good idea! I just lost a race today by hitting 82 in the pits
>(accidentally went in to 2nd gear for an instant)... that is an
>incredible bummer.

>Here's a question- when are you technically "out of the pitts"? I've
>gotten away with flooring it right after passing the pace car without
>black-flag... is that the rule?

While in the pits you'll have the auto-brake on. Just floor it after you've
been serviced and when the auto-brake lets you go beyond 80mph, well...
it means that youre out ant the speed limit is an height shaped rotated 90
degrees counter-clockwise (infiniti :)).

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Darren Settl

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by Darren Settl » Thu, 25 Apr 1996 04:00:00

        a good rule of thumb is to keep it under the max. speed untill you
        hit the spot where the pace car sets ........then floor the heck out
        of the darn thing ....<G>

Banfi Fol

REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by Banfi Fol » Thu, 25 Apr 1996 04:00:00



I think the speed limit checking ends with the end of the pit wall.

Folco

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REV-LIMITER in icr2/nascar?

by Dea » Fri, 26 Apr 1996 04:00:00




>>>Before i enter the pits, i always do <alt-B> to turn on the autobraking (i
>>>drive with it off the rest of the time). Then i put it in 1st gear and floor
>>>it. The autobraking prevents it from  going beyond 80mph.
>>>When i exit the pits, i take off the autobrake <alt-B> and resume...

>>Good idea! I just lost a race today by hitting 82 in the pits
>>(accidentally went in to 2nd gear for an instant)... that is an
>>incredible bummer.

>>Here's a question- when are you technically "out of the pitts"? I've
>>gotten away with flooring it right after passing the pace car without
>>black-flag... is that the rule?

>While in the pits you'll have the auto-brake on. Just floor it after you've
>been serviced and when the auto-brake lets you go beyond 80mph, well...
>it means that youre out ant the speed limit is an height shaped rotated 90
>degrees counter-clockwise (infiniti :)).

Not in NR.  In any case, you're generally safely out of the pits when the pit
wall ends.

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