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rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

Dave Henri

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by Dave Henri » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 08:19:22

   I have been reading lots of complaints about the AI in rF for the last
few days,  But my first few days driving didn't seem to have the same
problems.  I spent most of the first days using the fendered cars though.  
Then I tried the F1ish cars and began to see what everyone was complaining
about.  

  Has anyone compared the AI behavior between the two varieties?  Is one
better than the other?

dave henrie

David G Fishe

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by David G Fishe » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 08:27:59

It could be that most people stink badly in the F1 cars right now.

--
David G Fisher


David G Fishe

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by David G Fishe » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 08:29:33

I wasn't implying that you do btw. :-)

--
David G Fisher



> It could be that most people stink badly in the F1 cars right now.

> --
> David G Fisher



>>   I have been reading lots of complaints about the AI in rF for the last
>> few days,  But my first few days driving didn't seem to have the same
>> problems.  I spent most of the first days using the fendered cars though.
>> Then I tried the F1ish cars and began to see what everyone was
>> complaining
>> about.

>>  Has anyone compared the AI behavior between the two varieties?  Is one
>> better than the other?

>> dave henrie

DJRJ

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by DJRJ » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 10:17:57



Would you still recommend it? I'm still on the fence. Is it worth 39.00?

Larr

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by Larr » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 13:22:29

It is not possible to complain about the AI in rFactor.

That's because there IS NO AI in rFactor.

I just spent the last hour offline getting ass-ended by every single AI car
on the track.  ZERO aviodance manuevers on their part.

-Larry


straito

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by straito » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 13:53:11

reminds me of Microsoft Cart Precision Racing a few years ago, about the AI
or lack of :)
--

Steve H

> It is not possible to complain about the AI in rFactor.

> That's because there IS NO AI in rFactor.

> I just spent the last hour offline getting ass-ended by every single AI
> car on the track.  ZERO aviodance manuevers on their part.

> -Larry



>>   I have been reading lots of complaints about the AI in rF for the last
>> few days,  But my first few days driving didn't seem to have the same
>> problems.  I spent most of the first days using the fendered cars though.
>> Then I tried the F1ish cars and began to see what everyone was
>> complaining
>> about.

>>  Has anyone compared the AI behavior between the two varieties?  Is one
>> better than the other?

>> dave henrie

whoo

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by whoo » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:11:32




>>I wasn't implying that you do btw. :-)

>>--
>>David G Fisher

> Would you still recommend it? I'm still on the fence. Is it worth 39.00?

I'd say it's well worth it. I've only been using the open wheeled
trainer, and I'd say it is even more realistic than GPL. You have a tire
model and pitstops for starters.
whoo

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by whoo » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:14:25


> It is not possible to complain about the AI in rFactor.

> That's because there IS NO AI in rFactor.

> I just spent the last hour offline getting ass-ended by every single AI car
> on the track.  ZERO aviodance manuevers on their part.

No problems here. Probably because I'm running at near the same pace as
the AI, and not braking too early. Braking too early in a real motor
race will get you rear-ended nearly every time.
whoo

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by whoo » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:15:51


> reminds me of Microsoft Cart Precision Racing a few years ago, about the AI
> or lack of :)

Microsoft ***Precision Racing, you mean. One of the worst sims ever.
Byron Forbe

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by Byron Forbe » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:19:31


    For sure!

Byron Forbe

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by Byron Forbe » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:27:06



Hey David, what do you know about the results file with online races -
getting very erratic stuff.

Sometimes all the data (race laps, best lap and finishing position) are
simply not there - latency related?

Sometimes MY result file has no entry for ME at all - LOL.

And I noticed today that I have laps on Racecast that dont even exist in the
player records!!! (but I did do them)

For me, if results reporting for online races gets properly sorted, this
thing is a winner. Replay system stinks in comparison to even the oldest
Papy sims though.

But, at long last, it seems Kaemer has a need to stay on his toes! Hip, hip
HOORAY! :)

whoo

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by whoo » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:16:41




>>It could be that most people stink badly in the F1 cars right now.

> Hey David, what do you know about the results file with online races -
> getting very erratic stuff.

> Sometimes all the data (race laps, best lap and finishing position) are
> simply not there - latency related?

> Sometimes MY result file has no entry for ME at all - LOL.

> And I noticed today that I have laps on Racecast that dont even exist in the
> player records!!! (but I did do them)

> For me, if results reporting for online races gets properly sorted, this
> thing is a winner. Replay system stinks in comparison to even the oldest
> Papy sims though.

> But, at long last, it seems Kaemer has a need to stay on his toes! Hip, hip
> HOORAY! :)

There do seem to be some problems. Today I did a 15 lapper. I was shown
the chequered flag one lap too early. And as a final kick in the ribs,
the results file reports me as a DNF!
ymenar

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by ymenar » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:02:56


> Would you still recommend it? I'm still on the fence. Is it worth 39.00?

I say wait and see if rFactor is the sim that's supposed to have every
modder work on it.  It shouldn't take long to see if it's truly where
everybody's gonna work on mods for the next year or two.

*then* it'll be worth it, or else we'll be stuck with a small number of cars
and tracks and a good sim.

But a good sim is not enough nowadays I say.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Steve Whitt

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by Steve Whitt » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:28:50





>>>It could be that most people stink badly in the F1 cars right now.

>> Hey David, what do you know about the results file with online races -
>> getting very erratic stuff.

>> Sometimes all the data (race laps, best lap and finishing position) are
>> simply not there - latency related?

>> Sometimes MY result file has no entry for ME at all - LOL.

>> And I noticed today that I have laps on Racecast that dont even exist in
>> the player records!!! (but I did do them)

>> For me, if results reporting for online races gets properly sorted, this
>> thing is a winner. Replay system stinks in comparison to even the oldest
>> Papy sims though.

>> But, at long last, it seems Kaemer has a need to stay on his toes! Hip,
>> hip HOORAY! :)
> There do seem to be some problems. Today I did a 15 lapper. I was shown
> the chequered flag one lap too early. And as a final kick in the ribs, the
> results file reports me as a DNF!

not to sure about the lap problem.  post over at rsc for the devs to look
at.  but in regards to dnf. if you go across the line then hit "escape" and
not go back to your pit, you'll get a dnf.

cheers
steve

whoo

rFactor AI Tin Tops Vs Open Wheelers

by whoo » Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:39:06







>>>>It could be that most people stink badly in the F1 cars right now.

>>>Hey David, what do you know about the results file with online races -
>>>getting very erratic stuff.

>>>Sometimes all the data (race laps, best lap and finishing position) are
>>>simply not there - latency related?

>>>Sometimes MY result file has no entry for ME at all - LOL.

>>>And I noticed today that I have laps on Racecast that dont even exist in
>>>the player records!!! (but I did do them)

>>>For me, if results reporting for online races gets properly sorted, this
>>>thing is a winner. Replay system stinks in comparison to even the oldest
>>>Papy sims though.

>>>But, at long last, it seems Kaemer has a need to stay on his toes! Hip,
>>>hip HOORAY! :)

>>There do seem to be some problems. Today I did a 15 lapper. I was shown
>>the chequered flag one lap too early. And as a final kick in the ribs, the
>>results file reports me as a DNF!

> not to sure about the lap problem.  post over at rsc for the devs to look
> at.  but in regards to dnf. if you go across the line then hit "escape" and
> not go back to your pit, you'll get a dnf.

I stayed out and did my 15th lap, then the server switch tracks before I
made it to the pits on my warm-down lap. Not too keen on the idea of a
DNF for just not going to the pits.

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