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Dave (davids) Sparks
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I haven't played it, but it sounds like it could be a problem with IndyCar
not necessarily a shortcoming of Win95.  I've played plenty of Win95 games
and none show such lag as was described in this newsgroup, albeit none were
true driving simulations like IndyCar.  I just got NHL97 (a great game BTW)
and the Win95 version runs very smoothly with no hitches whatsoever and
precision control.  I also never noticed it with the demo of Monster Truck
Madness, but I never really played it too extensively.

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Just a thought here, have you tried playing it with the newly released
DirectX 3.0?

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: This was the plan I was going to take, but I think perhaps I'll just going
: to get the Voodoo.  The only reason I really wanted a Rendition card was
: for the Quake port (and Nascar2 I guess), and now it's been announced that
: the Voodoo will be the reference platform for the Direct3D Win95 version.
: Not quite a native port, but it will do for me.  With questionable 2D
: Windows performance, I would like to see one in action before I make my
: final decision.  
:  

Having seen the Win95 version of ICRII, I am not impressed yet with
Win95 as a sim platform.  The Voodoo will really have to live up to its
name and create some mighty magic before I am willing to suffer Win95
for the smoothness a racing or dogfighting sim requires.  This means for
"real" performance we may still have to rely on the game being coded for
a specific chip.  This I believe is the reasoning behind Sierra's plunge
into the hardware biz.  Actually it's a re-plunge.  They did the same
thing because they felt the Ad-Lib was the way to go for a soundcard
standard.  However, Sierra wasn't able to make that one fly.

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REPLY:

No, is it actually a win '95 version? But I have played many games
through '95 and really I haven't experienced any viable dropoff in
performance.

EX's Include: (all networked as well)

Shatterred Steel
Warcraft 2
Duke
Quake
Links LS

Like I said I haven't player IC2, but if one or a couple games don't
run quite right through '95 maybe it's the games fault. I also would
like to add that maybe your win '95 config isn't setup properly. I've
found many people hack on '95 then find out they have their setup all
messed up.

Q.B.M.

REPLY:

Lets say you have a Verite and a Vodoo.

For anything that is directly written for one or the other it will
automatically use that vidoe board.

If you have a D3D program which is a universal 3d app. then it will use
the board you have setup in Win '95 as the primary D3D board. If you
have both cars you should have the Vodoo setup for the primary D3D
boards since it's performance will be the best.

Q.B.M.

REPLY:

I'm sure you would be floored by a D3D IR2 version for the vodoo once
one is created. IR2 is supposed to be on the vertie first. There are no
public announcements of a D3D version yet by I'm guessing there will be
one soon.

But got to rec.video tommarow and read up on all the reviews of the
vodoo while running under windows. Assumming you don't have any
vandetas against '95 I think you should reconsider your stance and
possibly seek assitance on your setup as to why your performace is
suffering.

Q.B.M.

Yes they are, sort of.  You can get the entire DirectX 3 Redist Directory
(the redist directory is all the files included with DirectX applications
to install DirectX).  It is about 6megs (The DirectX 2.0 install was only
2megs, so I'm not sure what extraneous stuff comes in this zipfile).

After you unzip it, just go into the DirectX directory and run the
dxsetup.exe.  It will give to an option to reinstall DirectX which will
overwrite your system with the updated 3.0 drivers.

You can get it from: http://www.microsoft.com/gamesdev/gsdk/directx.zip

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I think he winding you up mate,

DirectX 2 has only just come out.

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DirectX 3.0 has indeed been completed, and already some games are shipping
with it (I know Monday Night Football comes with it).  The SDK is not yet
available for download, but like I said, the Redist directory that contains
the install program and drivers is on Microsoft's Game Developer's Page.

Quoting from Online *** Review on Sept 26th:

"Microsoft has finally completed its next major phase in its DirectX
technology, namely DirectX 3.0. DirectX 3.0 includes some improvements, and
some new technology as well. DirectDraw and Direct3D appear to have been
further optimized, including support for Intel's MMX technology. The major
improvements in DirectX 3, though, lie mainly in the new addition of
DirectSound3D (which allows easy manipulation of sound in 3D games),
improved hardware support in DirectInput including support for upcoming
Universal Serial Bus devices, and major improvements of DirectPlay. In
fact, the improvements to DirectPlay may be the most significant to
developers since they add the ability to easily construct "lobbies" where
gamers can meet, form teams and then enter net-play. They also further
improve on the protocol independence in DirectPlay, so connecting over
various protocols to Internet based servers should be even easier. Last but
not least, the DirectX 3.0 release should include the awaited Direct3D
patch for Windows NT 4.0."

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Dave (davids) Sparks
Late Night League
http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

Dave (davids) Sparks
Late Night League
http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html