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Project Gotham Racing 3 looks hawt

Boody Bandi

Project Gotham Racing 3 looks hawt

by Boody Bandi » Tue, 17 May 2005 07:41:06






> > > > there is nothing like Forza on any console

> > > *cough*Gran Turismo*cough*

> > Thanks, you proved my point. There is NOTHING like Forza on any console.

> > --
> > Rob Berryhill

> ignorant, Rob, ignorant. You have to acknowledge the master when you
> acknowledge the pupil. It has made strides for sure, but it is still a
> copy.

Forza is awesome, no doubt, but give credit where it's due.
GT paved (pun intended) the way for games like Forza.
Paul Heslo

Project Gotham Racing 3 looks hawt

by Paul Heslo » Tue, 17 May 2005 09:46:55








> > > > > there is nothing like Forza on any console

> > > > *cough*Gran Turismo*cough*

> > > Thanks, you proved my point. There is NOTHING like Forza on any console.

> > > --
> > > Rob Berryhill

> > ignorant, Rob, ignorant. You have to acknowledge the master when you
> > acknowledge the pupil. It has made strides for sure, but it is still a
> > copy.

> Agreed

oh good, I was worried I might be talking out my ***then :O)

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Paul Heslo

Project Gotham Racing 3 looks hawt

by Paul Heslo » Tue, 17 May 2005 09:48:28








> > > > > there is nothing like Forza on any console

> > > > *cough*Gran Turismo*cough*

> > > Thanks, you proved my point. There is NOTHING like Forza on any console.

> > > --
> > > Rob Berryhill

> > ignorant, Rob, ignorant. You have to acknowledge the master when you
> > acknowledge the pupil. It has made strides for sure, but it is still a
> > copy.

> Forza is awesome, no doubt, but give credit where it's due.
> GT paved (pun intended) the way for games like Forza.

In its time it's been awesome. This current one is not upto par,
except it really is damned fast and of course the car models are spot
on. They missed the chance to give it that added punch, which makes me
wonder if they either want to put more into the psp version (if there
is one) or the next gen
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MS

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by MS » Tue, 17 May 2005 17:21:28

-Yes, absolutely, cause GT was the very driving game on any platform. No,
wait it wasn't...

And please, don't call GT a "simulator". Take a car, and hit a wall doing
200mph. In a simulator there should be damage, right? Is there on GT? Is
there on Forza? Hell yes!

Zomonia

Project Gotham Racing 3 looks hawt

by Zomonia » Tue, 17 May 2005 17:52:55



>> ignorant, Rob, ignorant. You have to acknowledge the master when you
>> acknowledge the pupil. It has made strides for sure, but it is still a
>> copy.

> -Yes, absolutely, cause GT was the very driving game on any platform. No,
> wait it wasn't...

> And please, don't call GT a "simulator". Take a car, and hit a wall doing
> 200mph. In a simulator there should be damage, right? Is there on GT? Is
> there on Forza? Hell yes!

And don't call Forza a simulator either. If you hit a wall doing 200mph the
car shatters, you die, your save is wiped and your disc self-destructs.
That's what should happen. The only game on console I've ever played that I
would describe as a half-accurate simulator simulates giant walking
robot-tanks and is set many years in the future, so I can't really tell you
how accurately it's simulated! Forza handles like an arcade racer, I've won
all the races up to now powersliding round corners as though it was PGR2.
I'm not complaining, I just get infuriated by people telling me that a few
badly drawn scratches and a loose front bumper when hitting a tree at 250 is
the difference between sim and not sim.

Zo

Paul Heslo

Project Gotham Racing 3 looks hawt

by Paul Heslo » Tue, 17 May 2005 19:47:00


> > ignorant, Rob, ignorant. You have to acknowledge the master when you
> > acknowledge the pupil. It has made strides for sure, but it is still a
> > copy.

> -Yes, absolutely, cause GT was the very driving game on any platform. No,
> wait it wasn't...

> And please, don't call GT a "simulator". Take a car, and hit a wall doing
> 200mph. In a simulator there should be damage, right? Is there on GT? Is
> there on Forza? Hell yes!

Ah, I did say advances have been made. GT was the first good sim. I
can't understand their reluctance to have damage models, except I
suppose with that many cars it would be hell. It's not only A driving
sim but THE driving sim.

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Paul Heslo

Project Gotham Racing 3 looks hawt

by Paul Heslo » Tue, 17 May 2005 19:49:18




> >> ignorant, Rob, ignorant. You have to acknowledge the master when you
> >> acknowledge the pupil. It has made strides for sure, but it is still a
> >> copy.

> > -Yes, absolutely, cause GT was the very driving game on any platform. No,
> > wait it wasn't...

> > And please, don't call GT a "simulator". Take a car, and hit a wall doing
> > 200mph. In a simulator there should be damage, right? Is there on GT? Is
> > there on Forza? Hell yes!

> And don't call Forza a simulator either. If you hit a wall doing 200mph the
> car shatters, you die, your save is wiped and your disc self-destructs.
> That's what should happen. The only game on console I've ever played that I
> would describe as a half-accurate simulator simulates giant walking
> robot-tanks and is set many years in the future, so I can't really tell you
> how accurately it's simulated! Forza handles like an arcade racer, I've won
> all the races up to now powersliding round corners as though it was PGR2.
> I'm not complaining, I just get infuriated by people telling me that a few
> badly drawn scratches and a loose front bumper when hitting a tree at 250 is
> the difference between sim and not sim.

> Zo

Again i agree. Can't recall which game it was... er, Vrally 3 I think,
which really peed me off as the cars were wrecked at the slightest
knock and forever falling off high drops, not to return. But I was
being simplistic as obviously when it happens in real life this is the
LEAST that would happen.

Didn't change it from being a pain in the arse though :O)

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Robert P Holle

Project Gotham Racing 3 looks hawt

by Robert P Holle » Tue, 17 May 2005 20:43:19



> > there is nothing like Forza on any console

> *cough*Gran Turismo*cough*

He said *racing sim* not *driving sim* which is what the GT series is.

In any event, Forza has dethroned it.

Chris H

Project Gotham Racing 3 looks hawt

by Chris H » Tue, 17 May 2005 22:53:21

Everyone should try Gran Prix Legends on a PC for realism.  If you haven't
tried it or even seen it, do a little Google search.  There are a lot of
videos around.  Then buy a copy - if you can find one.  It is difficult,
time consuming and beautiful.
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Paul Heslo

Project Gotham Racing 3 looks hawt

by Paul Heslo » Tue, 17 May 2005 23:42:57


> Everyone should try Gran Prix Legends on a PC for realism.  If you haven't
> tried it or even seen it, do a little Google search.  There are a lot of
> videos around.  Then buy a copy - if you can find one.  It is difficult,
> time consuming and beautiful.
> --

Yeha, I think I had a go at a demo a while back, it did look good but
as you said, very hard to get the hang of

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Paul Heslo

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by Paul Heslo » Tue, 17 May 2005 23:44:52




> > > there is nothing like Forza on any console

> > *cough*Gran Turismo*cough*

> He said *racing sim* not *driving sim* which is what the GT series is.

> In any event, Forza has dethroned it.

? Do you actually play GT? if it was just driving down the shops it
would be a driving sim.. or are you confusing it with GTA?

And yes, in many people's eyes it may well have done so, but the
statement is still totally incorrect.

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USAF L

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by USAF L » Wed, 18 May 2005 00:31:57





>>>>there is nothing like Forza on any console

>>>*cough*Gran Turismo*cough*

>>He said *racing sim* not *driving sim* which is what the GT series is.

>>In any event, Forza has dethroned it.

> ? Do you actually play GT? if it was just driving down the shops it
> would be a driving sim.. or are you confusing it with GTA?

GTA is a driving sim?

Swi

Paul Heslo

Project Gotham Racing 3 looks hawt

by Paul Heslo » Wed, 18 May 2005 02:36:44






> >>>>there is nothing like Forza on any console

> >>>*cough*Gran Turismo*cough*

> >>He said *racing sim* not *driving sim* which is what the GT series is.

> >>In any event, Forza has dethroned it.

> > ? Do you actually play GT? if it was just driving down the shops it
> > would be a driving sim.. or are you confusing it with GTA?

> GTA is a driving sim?

> Swi

 :O) Gimme a chance, I haven't slept much recently. I meant it's a
driving game, rather than a racing game. I also know GT calls itself a
driving simulator, but that's just a word, if they didn't race each
other there would be no point. I suppose originally the intention was
to make driving a pleasure, which I think it was in the first two.
Number three seemed to make it more of a chore and the current version
is damned near impossible at times.

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Rob Berryhil

Project Gotham Racing 3 looks hawt

by Rob Berryhil » Wed, 18 May 2005 05:13:18



Haha, I tried to get another friend into GPL a couple of years back and
he told me "How can you play that game? I can't even scratch my nose or
I'll crash!"

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Pessimis

Project Gotham Racing 3 looks hawt

by Pessimis » Wed, 18 May 2005 06:27:12


I know it's getting on a bit, but that's taking the piss...

-P


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