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Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

Da

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Da » Thu, 25 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Hi I understand Thrustmaster started shipping this a few weeks ago.

Has anyone got one? If so what is it like?

A comparison to the T2 would be ideal!

Please e-mail

Daniel.

Greg Cisk

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Greg Cisk » Mon, 29 Sep 1997 04:00:00


OK here it is. I have had a T2 for about 11 months and have had no
problems with it at all. But I am always looking for something better.

Purchased a Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel at 13:07 at Circuit
City for $129. Get home at 13:45 open box. When I opened the box &
notice that the wheel looks rather cheap. In my opinion it looks nothing
like what the picture on the box looks like. All of a sudden I am not so
sure it is better than my T2. Thankfully the throttle did not work. When
I pushed the throttle to calibrate, nothing happened. Everything else
worked OK though. The base *DID* mount to my desk much better, but
that alone is not worth the $129 cost. I got my money back at 14:57. At
one time I really liked TM, but this one is a turkey IMHO.

So get one at your own risk. You have been warned :-)

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Eric T. Busc

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Eric T. Busc » Mon, 29 Sep 1997 04:00:00

Hmm... the picture on my box looks exactly like the real wheel.  As far as
the throttle not working, are you sure you had the switch set properly on
the pedals?

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Dave Bower

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Dave Bower » Mon, 29 Sep 1997 04:00:00



Say it ain't so! Are there any other people who've tried this wheel, and
could give a little insight. I'm hoping this is a one-off case!
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Greg Cisk

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Greg Cisk » Tue, 30 Sep 1997 04:00:00


You mean set to seperate like the instructions say? Besides, the brake
is the same axis as the gas and the brake worked.

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>Greg Cisko wrote in article

>>Purchased a Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel at 13:07 at Circuit
>>City for $129. Get home at 13:45 open box. When I opened the box &
>>notice that the wheel looks rather cheap. In my opinion it looks nothing
>>like what the picture on the box looks like. All of a sudden I am not so
>>sure it is better than my T2. Thankfully the throttle did not work. When
>>I pushed the throttle to calibrate, nothing happened. Everything else
>>worked OK though. The base *DID* mount to my desk much better, but
>>that alone is not worth the $129 cost. I got my money back at 14:57. At
>>one time I really liked TM, but this one is a turkey IMHO.

Michael E. Carve

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Michael E. Carve » Tue, 30 Sep 1997 04:00:00



% >Hmm... the picture on my box looks exactly like the real wheel.  As far as
% >the throttle not working, are you sure you had the switch set properly on
% >the pedals?

% You mean set to seperate like the instructions say? Besides, the brake
% is the same axis as the gas and the brake worked.

You may have picked up a wheel that slipped through the Quality tests or
had a wire get knocked loose in shipment.  But if the switch was set to
separate, then the brake and gas are not on the same axis.  In fact, they
are not even on the same joystick.  I really like this feature.  I can
now come screaming up to my pit stall and hit the brakes at a certain
spot and always hit the mark.  Before with the pedals on the same axis,
this was always a dicey situation.
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Paul Sander

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Paul Sander » Wed, 01 Oct 1997 04:00:00

This brings up an interesting question.....

Does ICR2, Nascar 2 and GP2 take advantage of two joystick axes for brake
and gas when available?????  The Thrustmaster T1/2 had the brake and gas on
the same axis.  The CH Pro Pedals had the brake and gas on two axes.  Now
the new TM wheel provides two axes support.  Is this all moot??? Do
Microprose and Papyrus program their sims to take advantage of two axes or
do they add some code to convert the two axes into an equivalent single
axis?????  In other words, you're entering turn 1 of your favorite sim.
Which is better, lifting off the throttle without braking, or keeping the
throttle floored and left foot braking?  Does the sim make a programmatic
distinction between the two when you have a separate axes for brake and
gas???  If you are using the T1 or T2 pedals, the answer is no.  I'm
curious about the CH Pro and the TM Pro pedals.

-Paul



> On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 10:12:26 -0500 Greg Cisko


> % >Hmm... the picture on my box looks exactly like the real wheel.  As
far as
> % >the throttle not working, are you sure you had the switch set properly
on
> % >the pedals?

> % You mean set to seperate like the instructions say? Besides, the brake
> % is the same axis as the gas and the brake worked.

> You may have picked up a wheel that slipped through the Quality tests or
> had a wire get knocked loose in shipment.  But if the switch was set to
> separate, then the brake and gas are not on the same axis.  In fact, they
> are not even on the same joystick.  I really like this feature.  I can
> now come screaming up to my pit stall and hit the brakes at a certain
> spot and always hit the mark.  Before with the pedals on the same axis,
> this was always a dicey situation.
> --
> **************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
>      Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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Dave Henr

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Dave Henr » Wed, 01 Oct 1997 04:00:00

 I really like this feature.  I can

>now come screaming up to my pit stall and hit the brakes at a certain
>spot and always hit the mark.  Before with the pedals on the same axis,
>this was always a dicey situation.
>--
>**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
>     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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  Mike...just curious...as to the performance enhancemnent you seem to
derive from SCREAMING??  Now I have screamed from time to time after
whacking a wall ....but screaming to produce speed???   :)

Dave Henrie

#99 The Pits Touring Car Championship

David Spark

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by David Spark » Wed, 01 Oct 1997 04:00:00


My understanding is that the Papyrus sims do not model the gas and brake
separately. When you step on the brake, it overrides the gas pedal, even if
they are on separate axes.

Dave Sparks
IWCCCARS Project: http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars/index.html-ssi
Late Night Series: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

Michael E. Carve

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Michael E. Carve » Wed, 01 Oct 1997 04:00:00


%  I really like this feature.  I can
% >now come screaming up to my pit stall and hit the brakes at a certain
% >spot and always hit the mark.  Before with the pedals on the same axis,
% >this was always a dicey situation.
%   Mike...just curious...as to the performance enhancemnent you seem to
% derive from SCREAMING??  Now I have screamed from time to time after
% whacking a wall ....but screaming to produce speed???   :)

I'm screaming to let my pit crew know that I headed their way.  They've
asked that I warn them since in the past I used to run 2 or 3 over every
other time I came into the pits.  Besides coming into the pits at some
of the tracks is just like Mr. Toad's Wild Ride cranked up 1000X's.  If
that don't make you scream, I don't know what will.  Why do people
scream on roller coaster rides and other thrill rides?

Actually I'm Jeff Gordon'ing (well, I don't whine too much since I set
up my own car <g>), but he is the master at coming up to the pit
entrance hot and heavy and then braking at he very last moment to come
down to pit speed.
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Greg Cisk

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Greg Cisk » Wed, 01 Oct 1997 04:00:00


Well since you can do this maneuver with a T2 is is moot :-) I do it all the time.
It somewhat simulated the "balancing" that some F1 drivers do.

Seriously though. I really like TM stuff in general. Heck I even was a beta
tester for them at one point. I seriously thought the Nascar Pro rig was cheap
looking. Sorry. I really did not think it was a reasonable upgrade to a 10
month old T2.

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> > On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 10:12:26 -0500 Greg Cisko


> > % >Hmm... the picture on my box looks exactly like the real wheel.  As
> far as
> > % >the throttle not working, are you sure you had the switch set properly
> on
> > % >the pedals?

> > % You mean set to seperate like the instructions say? Besides, the brake
> > % is the same axis as the gas and the brake worked.

> > You may have picked up a wheel that slipped through the Quality tests or
> > had a wire get knocked loose in shipment.  But if the switch was set to
> > separate, then the brake and gas are not on the same axis.  In fact, they
> > are not even on the same joystick.  I really like this feature.  I can
> > now come screaming up to my pit stall and hit the brakes at a certain
> > spot and always hit the mark.  Before with the pedals on the same axis,
> > this was always a dicey situation.
> > --
> > **************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
> >      Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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Timothy D.Le

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Timothy D.Le » Thu, 02 Oct 1997 04:00:00

N2 does support seprate control. You put any of the controls on any
any axis, button or key.
                      Timothy D. Lenz

Phillip W. Malphrus, Jr

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Phillip W. Malphrus, Jr » Thu, 02 Oct 1997 04:00:00

Does this new wheel have force-feedback and if not, why not?

Eric T. Busc

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Eric T. Busc » Thu, 02 Oct 1997 04:00:00

TM's FF wheel isn't out yet.

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Michael E. Carve

Thrustmaster Nascar Pro Racing Wheel

by Michael E. Carve » Thu, 02 Oct 1997 04:00:00

% Does this new wheel have force-feedback and if not, why not?

No.  Because that will be another product altogether, but I understand
that the developement of their force-feedback wheel has been delayed.
For mor information go to http://www.thrustmaster.com

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