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by **Tim** » Sun, 01 Aug 1999 04:00:00

great idea! they could easily re-create the 1960's using the GPL engine!

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by **John Bod** » Sun, 01 Aug 1999 04:00:00

You heard wrong. No CART sims are forthcoming that I know of, but we
will definitely something that features Indy-style cars in the near
future:

http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/sims/gtirl/

-- John Bodin
Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine
http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/

>If they find a way to get back together, then perhaps we might see a sim. I
>personally wouldn't mind seeing a remake of the Indy500 Racing Sim that
>orginally came out back in the (80's?)

>> any news on a new version of icr

by **John Bod** » Sun, 01 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Not so cheesy, actually -- some die-hard ICR2 fans have actually
stated that they found this game (which was actually titled "ABC Indy
Racing: The Road To Indy") to be superior to ICR2 in some ways (the
cars can actually get airborne to a certain extent, which indicates
some sophistication in the physics modeling area). The sim
overpowered the machines and video cards at the time; D3D was just
arriving, as were the cards that supported it. It had the same
problems as GP2 did in the hardware area, in fact; on a modern 300 MHz
machine with a good video card and the steering tweak utility, the
sim's actually pretty fun.

Check out the following URL for more details:

http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/abcindyracing/

Enjoy!

-- John Bodin
Publisher, The IRL Insider Magazine
http://irlinsider.adnetweb.com/

>Like I said, the last I heard, no one is going to make an 'indycar' sim
>because of the break ups!! You misunderstood... I didn't say CART, I said
>Indycars. There is a difference now.. remember? IRL races indycars, CART
>races CART cars. you can't call them indycars if they never GO to Indy now
>can you?

>> Wherever you got your information from, you need to send it back. Its not
>a
>> sim, but nonetheless the Dreamcast will have a nice looking arcade CART
>> racer on it. Microsoft still has a license to CART and so does Papyrus in
>> addition to Sega.

>> > there won't be... last I heard, no one is going to make a Indycar sim
>> > because of the breakup of CART and IRL.
>> > If they find a way to get back together, then perhaps we might see a
>sim.
>> I
>> > personally wouldn't mind seeing a remake of the Indy500 Racing Sim that
>> > orginally came out back in the (80's?)

>> > > any news on a new version of icr

by **Curt Rowlan** » Sun, 01 Aug 1999 04:00:00

tony george is an ass

>Damn fine idea, except that you-know-who in his Ivory Tower in
Indianapolis,
>would never go for it unless it included the Irrelevent Racing League ;-)

>don

>[|]-(_)-[|]

>>Why not have one track in different eras. Such as:

>>1911-challenge Ray Harroun
>>1919-the Birckyard after the war
>>1940-Indy during the Depression
>>1946-Hulman takes over
>>1965-Indy in tye-dye
>>1986-IMS turns 75
>>1995-the last true 500

>>And have cars race in their respective eras. Now I would buy that!

>>Cheers,
>>Eric Brighton
>>You know what to do with the NOSPAM in the reply address
>>"They were called test pilots...and no one knew their names."

by **Jr Bill** » Sun, 01 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Well, I can always dream, can't I? I remember day dreaming three or four years
ago that it would be really cool to have a game that let you race cars from the

but I bet four years ago none of us really thought a game like GPL would be so
good.

And as for Tony George, I plan on trying to find whoever put the curse on the
Kennedys. Whoever it was who struck that family could be very helpful in
resolving the CART IRL split. Again, I can dream can't I?

Cheers,
Eric Brighton
You know what to do with the NOSPAM in the reply address
"They were called test pilots...and no one knew their names."

by **Dave Henri** » Mon, 02 Aug 1999 04:00:00

> Xxxx Xxxxxx is an ass

Speak not his name! lest you too be corrupted and
loose your right to turn right...!
dave henrie

by **Sky** » Mon, 02 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Actually, there have been at least 3 CART sims since the breakup, and a 4th
due very soon: CART Precision Racing, Newman-Haas Racing and the re-release
of the patched ICR2 as CART Racing. Sega also has a CART game due for
release soon.

Sky

> there won't be... last I heard, no one is going to make a Indycar sim
> because of the breakup of CART and IRL.
> If they find a way to get back together, then perhaps we might see a sim.
I
> personally wouldn't mind seeing a remake of the Indy500 Racing Sim that
> orginally came out back in the (80's?)

> > any news on a new version of icr

by **Mike Laske** » Tue, 03 Aug 1999 04:00:00

> Papyrus in all likely hood,is done with ICR2. They currently have more
>work than they can handle with Nas3 and Nascar Legends.

If this is true then it's sad to see them forgetting their open wheel
fan-base & European customers.

Mike.

by **Rigs** » Fri, 06 Aug 1999 04:00:00

> > Papyrus in all likely hood,is done with ICR2. They currently have more
> >work than they can handle with Nas3 and Nascar Legends.

> If this is true then it's sad to see them forgetting their open wheel
> fan-base & European customers.

How can you guys *** so much? I understand that everyone wants a new
CART sim, but come on! Papy gives you GPL, and you still complain?
'Forgetting their open wheel fan base'? Um, excuse me, but isn't GPL
'OPEN WHEEL'? ICR2 is still good - with some patches. Give them a break,
they've been working constant on a sim a year (practically). They've
pretty much listened to us and our wishes. (I don't want to start a
flame war with threads like 'Papyrus Never Listens') When do they get a
break? I'm sure they've heard everyone wants ICR3. (Well, most of us)
They'll get around to it. In the meantime - why don't you grill EA or
Ubi-Soft for one...

by **Kirk Lan** » Sat, 07 Aug 1999 04:00:00

I would sort of attribute it to the Sierra buyout...holding off on a
GPL-based NASCAR is just Sierra BS. Just about every other Papy game was
released well before PCs were available that could run them with any real
speed. Sierra just wants them to milk ye olde N2 engine. I betcha if Papy
still had any real say, we'd be beggin for NASCAR 4 and ICR5... :)

--
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I write everything down except what's on my mind
'Cause my greatest fear is the sucking sound
And then I know I'll never get back out"
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> > > Papyrus in all likely hood,is done with ICR2. They currently have
more
> > >work than they can handle with Nas3 and Nascar Legends.

> > If this is true then it's sad to see them forgetting their open wheel
> > fan-base & European customers.

> How can you guys *** so much? I understand that everyone wants a new
> CART sim, but come on! Papy gives you GPL, and you still complain?
> 'Forgetting their open wheel fan base'? Um, excuse me, but isn't GPL
> 'OPEN WHEEL'? ICR2 is still good - with some patches. Give them a break,
> they've been working constant on a sim a year (practically). They've
> pretty much listened to us and our wishes. (I don't want to start a
> flame war with threads like 'Papyrus Never Listens') When do they get a
> break? I'm sure they've heard everyone wants ICR3. (Well, most of us)
> They'll get around to it. In the meantime - why don't you grill EA or
> Ubi-Soft for one...

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