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LCD monitor

Chad Pierc

LCD monitor

by Chad Pierc » Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:57:31

Any reviews or information on this monitor?

Philips 190S5FB

Thanks,
f1simracer

Andi Col

LCD monitor

by Andi Col » Sat, 27 Nov 2004 04:40:13

Doesn't seem to be listed on Philips web site but the 190B5CS is. That's a
25ms response time so wouldn't be particularly good for fast moving
graphics.

I use a BENQ FP937S which has a 12ms response time, although I understand
8ms TFT's will be available by Xmas. That's not to say that response time is
the only measure of a TFT. Brightess, contrast and viewing angles need to be
competitive too. Then there's the all too difficult 'image quality' to
consider.

--
Andi.

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Bass

LCD monitor

by Bass » Sat, 27 Nov 2004 06:31:57



And I bet it only displays 8bit color. That's how they get the
response timing down usually. Less colors to display = faster response
time.

Dave Henri

LCD monitor

by Dave Henri » Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:14:26


4ax.com:



>>I use a BENQ FP937S which has a 12ms response time,

> And I bet it only displays 8bit color. That's how they get the
> response timing down usually. Less colors to display = faster response
> time.

   What is a good site to research LCD's?  A member of our TPTCC Road
Racing online league was asking the same question.  

dh

Steve Simpso

LCD monitor

by Steve Simpso » Sat, 27 Nov 2004 10:48:09

Everything about the LCD world seems to be about compromise.  The only areas
that they can beat a CRT conclusively are size, weight, power consumption &
geometry.  I'd dearly love to buy an LCD for their convenience but I can't
find one that has contrast even remotely comparable to a CRT and at the same
time a decent response time.  You really notice an LCD's shortcomings when
watching a DVD with lots or dark scenes - you can't see any detail in those
scenes on an LCD screen.

mjones5

LCD monitor

by mjones5 » Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:00:32

this is the one I am waiting on.

The Hyundai ImageQuest L90D+ has an industry leading ultra-fast 8ms response
time making it perfect for blur-free video and ***. With it's 700:1
contrast ratio and excellent viewing angle their is no other TFT/LCD that
can match the quality and performance of Hyundai's latest L90D+ LCD Monitor.

- 8ms Response Time
- 0.294mm of Pixels Pitch
- 700:1 Contrast Ratio
- 300 CDm2 Brightness
- 150/ 135 (h./v.) Viewing Angles
- frequency range 31 to 80kHz horizontal and 56 to 75Hz vertically
- Automatic Picture Synchronisation
- 1280 x 1024 with 60Hz recommended resolution
- 16.7 million colors display
- Dual inputs: D-Sub and DVI-D signal input
- DVI cable included
- integrated loudspeaker (2ch x 2 Watts RMS)
- headphone connection
- TCO 03
- Kensington ready
- Integrated power pack (Saving more desk space)
- 3 years on-site warranty


Tiny Lun

LCD monitor

by Tiny Lun » Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:03:20

" What is a good site to research LCD's?  A member of our TPTCC Road
Racing online league was asking the same question."

I was recently looking into the LCDs and it was difficult to find a good
site with lots of reviews. I did find this:
http://tech-report.com/reviews/2004q1/lcds/index.x?pg=1 which gives some
pros and cons of LCD that I thought were helpful.



> 4ax.com:



>>>I use a BENQ FP937S which has a 12ms response time,

>> And I bet it only displays 8bit color. That's how they get the
>> response timing down usually. Less colors to display = faster response
>> time.

>   What is a good site to research LCD's?  A member of our TPTCC Road
> Racing online league was asking the same question.

> dh

Tanstaaf

LCD monitor

by Tanstaaf » Sat, 27 Nov 2004 12:58:54

Try here.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=610


> " What is a good site to research LCD's?  A member of our TPTCC Road
> Racing online league was asking the same question."

> I was recently looking into the LCDs and it was difficult to find a good
> site with lots of reviews. I did find this:
> http://tech-report.com/reviews/2004q1/lcds/index.x?pg=1 which gives some
> pros and cons of LCD that I thought were helpful.




> > 4ax.com:



> >>>I use a BENQ FP937S which has a 12ms response time,

> >> And I bet it only displays 8bit color. That's how they get the
> >> response timing down usually. Less colors to display = faster response
> >> time.

> >   What is a good site to research LCD's?  A member of our TPTCC Road
> > Racing online league was asking the same question.

> > dh

Tanstaaf

LCD monitor

by Tanstaaf » Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:01:54

Or here.
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=vp201b&page=1


> " What is a good site to research LCD's?  A member of our TPTCC Road
> Racing online league was asking the same question."

> I was recently looking into the LCDs and it was difficult to find a good
> site with lots of reviews. I did find this:
> http://tech-report.com/reviews/2004q1/lcds/index.x?pg=1 which gives some
> pros and cons of LCD that I thought were helpful.




> > 4ax.com:



> >>>I use a BENQ FP937S which has a 12ms response time,

> >> And I bet it only displays 8bit color. That's how they get the
> >> response timing down usually. Less colors to display = faster response
> >> time.

> >   What is a good site to research LCD's?  A member of our TPTCC Road
> > Racing online league was asking the same question.

> > dh

arny

LCD monitor

by arny » Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:44:29

Good place to start:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/lcd-guide.html

Larr

LCD monitor

by Larr » Sun, 28 Nov 2004 02:07:12

And don't forget about backlights and the astonishing repair cost if they go
out.

Backlights are the 'dirty little secret' of the LCD industry.

Don't think you can replace a $20 lamp.  No, you have to replace the entire
panel at a cost usually greater than the cost of the Monitor itself.

What makes it so bad there is no physical reason for this.

-Larry


Bass

LCD monitor

by Bass » Sun, 28 Nov 2004 05:25:11



Yea, I bought a Samsung LCD and after one year I went out and bought
another CRT monitor because the contrast ratio bugged me. I now use
the LCD on my  weaker second PC and use the CRT on my *** PC. I
hear some company has designed a CRT monitor that is only 13" in
depth, that might offer the best compromise for someone who wants a
slimish monitor and a good quality image.

Bass

LCD monitor

by Bass » Sun, 28 Nov 2004 05:26:52



Looks good on paper, but I expect it is very expensive too.

Steve Smit

LCD monitor

by Steve Smit » Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:40:16

Any word on price?


> this is the one I am waiting on.

> The Hyundai ImageQuest L90D+ has an industry leading ultra-fast 8ms
response
> time making it perfect for blur-free video and ***. With it's 700:1
> contrast ratio and excellent viewing angle their is no other TFT/LCD that
> can match the quality and performance of Hyundai's latest L90D+ LCD
Monitor.

> - 8ms Response Time
> - 0.294mm of Pixels Pitch
> - 700:1 Contrast Ratio
> - 300 CDm2 Brightness
> - 150/ 135 (h./v.) Viewing Angles
> - frequency range 31 to 80kHz horizontal and 56 to 75Hz vertically
> - Automatic Picture Synchronisation
> - 1280 x 1024 with 60Hz recommended resolution
> - 16.7 million colors display
> - Dual inputs: D-Sub and DVI-D signal input
> - DVI cable included
> - integrated loudspeaker (2ch x 2 Watts RMS)
> - headphone connection
> - TCO 03
> - Kensington ready
> - Integrated power pack (Saving more desk space)
> - 3 years on-site warranty



> >>>I use a BENQ FP937S which has a 12ms response time,

> >> And I bet it only displays 8bit color. That's how they get the
> >> response timing down usually. Less colors to display = faster response
> >> time.

> > Everything about the LCD world seems to be about compromise.  The only
> > areas that they can beat a CRT conclusively are size, weight, power
> > consumption & geometry.  I'd dearly love to buy an LCD for their
> > convenience but I can't find one that has contrast even remotely
> > comparable to a CRT and at the same time a decent response time.  You
> > really notice an LCD's shortcomings when watching a DVD with lots or
dark
> > scenes - you can't see any detail in those scenes on an LCD screen.

Steve Smit

LCD monitor

by Steve Smit » Sun, 28 Nov 2004 23:48:14

Au contraire. $380 is dirt cheap compared to almost any other 19-incher.




> >this is the one I am waiting on.

> >The Hyundai ImageQuest L90D+ has an industry leading ultra-fast 8ms
response
> >time making it perfect for blur-free video and ***. With it's 700:1
> >contrast ratio and excellent viewing angle their is no other TFT/LCD that
> >can match the quality and performance of Hyundai's latest L90D+ LCD
Monitor.

> >- 8ms Response Time
> >- 0.294mm of Pixels Pitch
> >- 700:1 Contrast Ratio
> >- 300 CDm2 Brightness
> >- 150/ 135 (h./v.) Viewing Angles
> >- frequency range 31 to 80kHz horizontal and 56 to 75Hz vertically
> >- Automatic Picture Synchronisation
> >- 1280 x 1024 with 60Hz recommended resolution
> >- 16.7 million colors display
> >- Dual inputs: D-Sub and DVI-D signal input
> >- DVI cable included
> >- integrated loudspeaker (2ch x 2 Watts RMS)
> >- headphone connection
> >- TCO 03
> >- Kensington ready
> >- Integrated power pack (Saving more desk space)
> >- 3 years on-site warranty

> Looks good on paper, but I expect it is very expensive too.


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