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RASCAR: Next Race... which track???

John Simmon

RASCAR: Next Race... which track???

by John Simmon » Sun, 20 Apr 2003 06:08:40

I am against any change for a specific track type.  You run the race,
take your chances, and complain about the outcome just like the rest
of us.



> I have mixed feelings on this, but I lean toward agreeing.  If for no other
> reason than the hope of getting the stoopid random-damage thing out of the
> way.

> Larry



> > It would be great if we could turn the damage down to moderate or even
> off.

> > I'd love to run just one RASCAR SS race where I don't get wrecked from

Eldre

RASCAR: Next Race... which track???

by Eldre » Sun, 20 Apr 2003 10:42:36



>I am against any change for a specific track type.  You run the race,
>take your chances, and complain about the outcome just like the rest
>of us.

I thought they were asking about turning down the damage for ALL the races...

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RASCAR: Next Race... which track???

by David G Fishe » Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:18:42



Simmons

> >I am against any change for a specific track type.  You run the race,
> >take your chances, and complain about the outcome just like the rest
> >of us.

> I thought they were asking about turning down the damage for ALL the
races...

> Eldred

No, just the SS races. As Pete said, a tiny bit of body damage in a SS race
and the car is suddenly 20mph slower than the rest of the field which is
completely unrealistic. This doesn't happen on other tracks of course.
Changing to moderate damage would go a ways to correct this and provide for
a better race for all of us. If the damage model was more realistic than I
could maybe understand the reluctance of some to not want to do this for the
SS races, but the game is screwed up as it is now.

David G Fisher

John Simmon

RASCAR: Next Race... which track???

by John Simmon » Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:54:02






> Simmons

> > >I am against any change for a specific track type.  You run the race,
> > >take your chances, and complain about the outcome just like the rest
> > >of us.

> > I thought they were asking about turning down the damage for ALL the
> races...

> > Eldred

> No, just the SS races. As Pete said, a tiny bit of body damage in a SS race
> and the car is suddenly 20mph slower than the rest of the field which is
> completely unrealistic. This doesn't happen on other tracks of course.
> Changing to moderate damage would go a ways to correct this and provide for
> a better race for all of us. If the damage model was more realistic than I
> could maybe understand the reluctance of some to not want to do this for the
> SS races, but the game is screwed up as it is now.

> David G Fisher

1) I think (or was at least hoping) that driving with realistic
damage would create an atmosphere where everyone KNOWS that the
slightest bit of damage would make their car uncompetitive until they
pitted again.  This should promote better driving, especially in a
controlled environment where we don't have to worry about intentioanl
wreckers. I think most/all of us make an honest effort to drive
clean, but...

2) Shit happens Dave.  As much as we'd like it to happen, we all
can't have a perfect race every week - EVERYBODY makes mistakes.  
It's all fine and dandy to *** and moan, but I honestly don't see
how we're any better as drivers at any other kind of track than we
are at the supers.  It's just that mistakes are amplified at supers
because of the importance of the draft.

3) If we lower the damage for supers, we should lower the damage for
ALL tracks.  I think we're stressing Eldred enough just to remember
to start the server, we don't want him to have to remember to change
the damage level for a given track as well.  :)

4) I personally don't think we should lower the damage level, but I
will defer to the majority.  We are, afterall, here to have fun.

Eldre

RASCAR: Next Race... which track???

by Eldre » Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:45:58



>3) If we lower the damage for supers, we should lower the damage for
>ALL tracks.  I think we're stressing Eldred enough just to remember
>to start the server, we don't want him to have to remember to change
>the damage level for a given track as well.  :)

Thanks, John - I appreciate the vote of confidence...<g>

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John Simmon

RASCAR: Next Race... which track???

by John Simmon » Sun, 20 Apr 2003 23:54:28





> >3) If we lower the damage for supers, we should lower the damage for
> >ALL tracks.  I think we're stressing Eldred enough just to remember
> >to start the server, we don't want him to have to remember to change
> >the damage level for a given track as well.  :)

> Thanks, John - I appreciate the vote of confidence...<g>

Just a poke in the ribs to see if you were awake, ol' buddy... :)
Larr

RASCAR: Next Race... which track???

by Larr » Mon, 21 Apr 2003 03:39:09

I pretty much agree.

Again, I would only be for it in respect to getting around the random-damage
issue.

Larry


> I am against any change for a specific track type.  You run the race,
> take your chances, and complain about the outcome just like the rest
> of us.



> > I have mixed feelings on this, but I lean toward agreeing.  If for no
other
> > reason than the hope of getting the stoopid random-damage thing out of
the
> > way.

> > Larry



> > > It would be great if we could turn the damage down to moderate or even
> > off.

> > > I'd love to run just one RASCAR SS race where I don't get wrecked from


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