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PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

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PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by . » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 07:20:06

I'm trying to bring an older PC up to speed.  Is PIII 1Ghz fast enough for GPL
and F1 2001 with a decent vid card like GeForce 2 MX400 64Mb?
Rob Adam

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by Rob Adam » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 07:33:30


Plenty fast enough for GPL, which ran fine (with a few things turned down)
for me on a PII 333 with Voodoo3. You may have frame rate problems on some
of the very newest add-on tracks if you use the newest track and car
graphics. But that won't be a common problem.

It'll be fine for F1 2001 but you may need to turn a few options off to get
decent framerates in races if you start at the back of the grid. You'll
probably have to do some tweaking to get it running the way you like but
that's hardly a boat-anchor PC, even if it isn't leading edge anymore.

Marc Collin

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by Marc Collin » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:03:11

I concur 100% with Rob.

Marc




> > I'm trying to bring an older PC up to speed.  Is PIII 1Ghz fast enough
for
> GPL
> > and F1 2001 with a decent vid card like GeForce 2 MX400 64Mb?

> Plenty fast enough for GPL, which ran fine (with a few things turned down)
> for me on a PII 333 with Voodoo3. You may have frame rate problems on some
> of the very newest add-on tracks if you use the newest track and car
> graphics. But that won't be a common problem.

> It'll be fine for F1 2001 but you may need to turn a few options off to
get
> decent framerates in races if you start at the back of the grid. You'll
> probably have to do some tweaking to get it running the way you like but
> that's hardly a boat-anchor PC, even if it isn't leading edge anymore.

rik zeppeli

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by rik zeppeli » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:08:41

get the p4 if you can.


.

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by . » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 08:55:38

Wouldn't Athlon XP be a better choice and cheaper too?

Dave Henri

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by Dave Henri » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 09:13:57


  A Geforce2MX is NOT a decent card, (I would call it ok, but just barely,
as soon as it was purchased it would be outdated)it is now 2 generations old
and the budget version at that.  At least it has 64megs but you would be
better served with a GF3 Ti(200) that should be fairly close in price.  Many
users here have posted getting near GF3 TI 500 speeds with just an easy o/c
utility.  The PIII 1 gig will do GPL just fine, but newer titles like F1
2001 and N 2002 will bog it down.
  Now to more fully answer your question in the subject line:
  No CPU is EVER 'fast enough.'
dave henrie

rik zeppeli

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by rik zeppeli » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 09:36:54

sure would.
i thought you wanted pentium. the athlon thunderbird 1 gig is faster than
both the pentiums.


Biz

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by Biz » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:41:10

That machine is fast enough, but I would recommend spending an extra $50 or so on a GF3 Ti200 to go
with that machine.

--
Biz

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alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash


> I'm trying to bring an older PC up to speed.  Is PIII 1Ghz fast enough for GPL
> and F1 2001 with a decent vid card like GeForce 2 MX400 64Mb?

David Butter

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by David Butter » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:53:55


<snip>

Yes it ***y well is! It isn't a cutting-edge card by any means, and
sure the Ti is preferable if you have the choice, but it *is* decent.
"Decent" does not mean "incredibly fast".

(A slightly irritated Geforce2 MX owner!)

--
"After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll,
really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

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Dave Henri

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by Dave Henri » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:12:05



> >   A Geforce2MX is NOT a decent card
> <snip>

> Yes it ***y well is! It isn't a cutting-edge card by any means, and
> sure the Ti is preferable if you have the choice, but it *is* decent.
> "Decent" does not mean "incredibly fast".

> (A slightly irritated Geforce2 MX owner!)

  sorry If I got you riled, but the guy was building a new box with F1 2001
in mind and for that and most other new titles, the MX is starting to be an
underperformer.    There is a second thread about that vid card and the
other respondants pretty much agree.  Especially since it is a new system,
why hamstring it with an MX card?  A GF3 TI(200) isn't a whole lot more $$
and provides a clear performance upgrade.
   Thats why I said it was just "ok" as in barely adequate.  The next
Papyrus racing sim will require a hefty vid card for full out performance,
I suspect that F1 2002 will also be a big drain.  GP4, WSC, titles like
these will benefit from a kick-ass vid card.  And the MX line just ain't KA
any more.
(ps,  I also stated he was shorting himself on cpu power so I just wasn't
picking on MXers.)
dave henrie
rik zeppeli

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by rik zeppeli » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:40:06

theGF2MX/ MX400 is an extreme bottleneck on my p4 1.6.
My 3dmark score is almost 3 times higher if i had a ti-500.





> > >   A Geforce2MX is NOT a decent card
> > <snip>

> > Yes it ***y well is! It isn't a cutting-edge card by any means, and
> > sure the Ti is preferable if you have the choice, but it *is* decent.
> > "Decent" does not mean "incredibly fast".

> > (A slightly irritated Geforce2 MX owner!)

>   sorry If I got you riled, but the guy was building a new box with F1
2001
> in mind and for that and most other new titles, the MX is starting to be
an
> underperformer.    There is a second thread about that vid card and the
> other respondants pretty much agree.  Especially since it is a new system,
> why hamstring it with an MX card?  A GF3 TI(200) isn't a whole lot more $$
> and provides a clear performance upgrade.
>    Thats why I said it was just "ok" as in barely adequate.  The next
> Papyrus racing sim will require a hefty vid card for full out performance,
> I suspect that F1 2002 will also be a big drain.  GP4, WSC, titles like
> these will benefit from a kick-ass vid card.  And the MX line just ain't
KA
> any more.
> (ps,  I also stated he was shorting himself on cpu power so I just wasn't
> picking on MXers.)
> dave henrie

David Butter

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by David Butter » Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:12:07


<snip>

I'm not riled - I just got slightly irritated at the implication that
the MX was a *bad* card. My definition of the word "decent" is
"acceptable", not "lightning-fast". Obviously if I could start from
scratch on a new PC now, I'd go for something faster.

It's much the same as the Intel-AMD debate I suppose. My PC has a P4
because my PC blew up on Xmas Day(!) and I needed a replacement
instantly (ie Boxing Day morning). If I'd had time to think, it
probably would have had an AMD. But the difference isn't big enough to
worry me particularly.

--
"After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll,
really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

rik zeppeli

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by rik zeppeli » Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:42:32



> >   sorry If I got you riled, but the guy was building a new box with
> >   F1 2001
> > in mind and for that and most other new titles, the MX is starting
> > to be an underperformer.
> <snip>

> I'm not riled - I just got slightly irritated at the implication that
> the MX was a *bad* card. My definition of the word "decent" is
> "acceptable", not "lightning-fast". Obviously if I could start from
> scratch on a new PC now, I'd go for something faster.

> It's much the same as the Intel-AMD debate I suppose. My PC has a P4
> because my PC blew up on Xmas Day(!) and I needed a replacement
> instantly (ie Boxing Day morning). If I'd had time to think, it
> probably would have had an AMD. But the difference isn't big enough to
> worry me particularly.

Im with you there David. Same EXACT thing happened to me, except mine dorked
out on Thanksgiving.
Gunnar Horrigm

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by Gunnar Horrigm » Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:36:43



> >   sorry If I got you riled, but the guy was building a new box with
> >   F1 2001
> > in mind and for that and most other new titles, the MX is starting
> > to be an underperformer.
> <snip>

> I'm not riled - I just got slightly irritated at the implication that
> the MX was a *bad* card.

it's getting stone age fast.  the GF2 series lacks the DX8 features
(ie. vertex and pixel shaders) and shouldn't even, imho, be considered
for a "serious" *** setup these days.  a GF3ti200 is a lot better
choice, and not much more expensive.

of course DX9 is on the way....

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lane

PIII 1Ghz fast enough?

by lane » Tue, 12 Feb 2002 01:00:42


P4 is no faster in games  than a P3 at the same clock speed.


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