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by **Chuck Kandle** » Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:00:00

> > > > > GPL *F3* at Indy and Talladega- drool.. ;-) Talk about a IRL sim, hehe

> > > > Dega in F3? Could racing be any more boring than that?

> > > > IMO, of course :)

> > > > Hena

> > > hehe.. you're missing the point. Constant drafting! you have to be
> > > really good to not only keep a draft, but to be able to pass with the
> > > draft. Then to hope that the driver using your draft can't use it to
> > > pass you. Draft Heaven! ;-)
> > > --

> > LOL! Think we can get them going fast enough to create any kind of meaningful
> > draft? ;-)

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> At Monza, The only way to pass someone on either of the straits
> is if
> you are drafting. The Regular F3 drivers have been using Bump drafting
> to get away from everyone behind us :)
> --

*Bump drafting*?? In GPL? Boy, if that don't sound like fun! I may have to set me
up an F3 driver profile & start practicing, so I can join you guys. Seems dangerous
in GPL though. The way they like to sometimes over-react when you touch something.
I'm sure it takes a real light touch. Richard Petty would love this stuff. ;-)

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by **Dave Henri** » Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:00:00

The CART Champ cars have had a great deal of their downforce taken
away. On a course like Portland, you "should" see faster times from the
Champ cars, but if you really want to see the difference go back about 5
years, those cars could drive through the tunnel at Monaco, on the
ceiling/upside down. Same for the F1 cars. Go back 10 years to the
1000+hp Turbo cars.
The comparison I've always wanted to see would be to compare the lap
times at a large track(Indy, Talladega) between open wheel variants and
the closed wheeled GTP, LMS cars. I have heard the open tires on the
champ cars produce big gobs of drag. The old tiny-motored AAR Toyota
Eagle IMSA cars were thought to be faster than Indy cars of the same
time period...It would make for an interesting article.
dave henrie

> > >Just to compare F1 1969 times to cart times. So i could compare ICR2
> > physics
> > >to GPL physics. I hope GPL times will be much much slower :o)

> > Surely you realize that the physics won't really compare? Also don't
> > forget that just because your driving line (and lap times) changes
> > significantly between sims (don't start) doesn't mean there's a flaw in the
> > physics: the PHYSICAL cars are different, too. Just like you can't drive a
> > Chrysler Imperial the same way you can a Corvette over the same course. I
> > think you'll get misleading results. Besides, we already know nothing comes
> > anywhere close to GPL's physics accuracy.

> > Gunner

> I'm totaly agree with you.

> Okey, ICR2 physics is not realist as GPL ones, but lap times, acceleration
> and speed are quite realist.
> The GPL times,acceleration and speed are realist too, plus physics is.

> So normally, GPL on portland must has slower laps than ICR2.

> If not, well, maybe, ICR2 tracks have not the same scale than GPL ones.

> Thus,it would be interesting to calculate the length tracks (and easy ).

> Just drive at 22,5 mph ( 10m/s ), take time, and calculate track length.

> Time in second * 10. it will give aproximate length in meter.

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by **btgos** » Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Continuing the off topic thread of speed. Road and Track (I think) Did a
speed test between a Winston Cup Car and a Porsche GTP car. They ran the
cars on a giant test track, looking for all out speed. I know the WC car was
the Late Tim Richmond's Folger's Monte Carlo, the Porsche... I can't recall.
But anyway.. this was done. Maybe a look on the R&T site will help, or
someone else remembers this issue.
Later,
Brit
-
The Artist formerly known as the Mocker

by **David Brow** » Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:00:00

>Continuing the off topic thread of speed. Road and Track (I think) Did a
>speed test between a Winston Cup Car and a Porsche GTP car. They ran the
>cars on a giant test track, looking for all out speed. I know the WC car was
>the Late Tim Richmond's Folger's Monte Carlo, the Porsche... I can't recall.
>But anyway.. this was done. Maybe a look on the R&T site will help, or
>someone else remembers this issue.

Yes, I remember the article. The WC car won, because it was set up
for superspeedways, and the GTP wasn't. They never could remove
enough downforce/drag from the GTP car to get it to top speed, nor was
it clear they had tall enough gears. They also had extra drag from
the too-wide tires. IIRC, there wasn't that much HP difference
between them.

-dB

by **Francois Dubu** » Mon, 06 Dec 1999 04:00:00

On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 16:03:12 +0100, Sebastien Tixier

>well, could be cool, but i'm more interrested with portland,toronto,sears
>point,cleveland,elkart lake,etc.. ( road track ).

>Just to compare F1 1969 times to cart times. So i could compare ICR2 physics
>to GPL physics. I hope GPL times will be much much slower :o)

Up 'til now the are... Or maybe I drive like shit...

Francois Dubuc,

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