rec.autos.simulators

>When Dr. Bohanan is quoted as saying "the *** impact into the steering
>wheel (cuz belt broke) was severe enough to break the back of Dale's
skull".
>He originally said, on that black Sunday, that there was NO sign of ***
>injury. Not so sure he was telling the truth, maybe just playing into the
>potential hysteria that he could have caused by saying otherwise.
>If Dale hit the wheel with his face as he has now said, it is obvious he
>would have have some visible injury to his chin or jaw.
>Please Dale Jr., for your own sake (be selfish on this one, man), start
>wearing a full face helmet. I am no liberal, and I DO NOT enjoy ANY
>governing body telling me what is good for me. But it is clear and obvious
>that Dale Sr. would still be alive (not saying he would not have severe
>injuries) were it not for a full face helmet.
>The H.A.N.S. is a different argument all together (one which MUST be
>supported by all drivers). Maybe I am not familiar with the EXACT workings
>of the device, but if his head were not able to make contact with the
wheel,
>it is clear what would not have happened. I am merely trying to put 1 and 1
>together here. It seems so simple to me.
>4 deaths in NASCAR in 3 yrs. is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE!! Even in this
>inherently dangerous sport. Why not do everything possible to prevent
injury
>or death?
>Is it a deeply proud southern ignorance that prevents guys from using all
>safety equipment available to them?? ie: "i won't be told to wear a helmet
>on my motorbike!!..you can't tell me what's good for me!!"...is it this kin
d
>of ignorance that is in the mindset of drivers?
>I do NOT wish to have any more of my heros taken away from me because of
>this kind of mentality. It is senseless. IMHO.
>Dale was more of a hero to me alive then dead.
>And I am just a Canadian onlooker (big fan).
>F1 seems overdue for a driver's death. Other than the official in San
Marino
>last year, it is since 94 when the beloved Ayrton Senna was taken from us.
I
>REALLY HOPE I AM WRONG.
>We have seen somne horrific crashes with only broken bones as a result from
>some SERIOUS safety rules changes and implementations in F1.
>I wish NASCAR and all of its devoted members, drivers, crews, wives,
fanily,
>etc. all step up their efforts ten fold.
>I miss Dale.

>Zoltan Barabas

> A full faced helmet wouldn't have helped.  He also had 8 broken ribs and a
> broken sturnum<---sp?.  This would probably lead to pretty sever internal
> injuries.  If you hit a concrete wall at 60 mph without a seatbelt, your
> chances of living are pretty slim.  When you hit it at 180 mph you have no
> chance without a belt.  It just happened that the head injuries killed him
> first.

> >When Dr. Bohanan is quoted as saying "the *** impact into the steering
> >wheel (cuz belt broke) was severe enough to break the back of Dale's
> skull".
> >He originally said, on that black Sunday, that there was NO sign of
***
> >injury. Not so sure he was telling the truth, maybe just playing into the
> >potential hysteria that he could have caused by saying otherwise.
> >If Dale hit the wheel with his face as he has now said, it is obvious he
> >would have have some visible injury to his chin or jaw.
> >Please Dale Jr., for your own sake (be selfish on this one, man), start
> >wearing a full face helmet. I am no liberal, and I DO NOT enjoy ANY
> >governing body telling me what is good for me. But it is clear and
obvious
> >that Dale Sr. would still be alive (not saying he would not have severe
> >injuries) were it not for a full face helmet.
> >The H.A.N.S. is a different argument all together (one which MUST be
> >supported by all drivers). Maybe I am not familiar with the EXACT
workings
> >of the device, but if his head were not able to make contact with the
> wheel,
> >it is clear what would not have happened. I am merely trying to put 1 and
1
> >together here. It seems so simple to me.
> >4 deaths in NASCAR in 3 yrs. is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE!! Even in this
> >inherently dangerous sport. Why not do everything possible to prevent
> injury
> >or death?
> >Is it a deeply proud southern ignorance that prevents guys from using all
> >safety equipment available to them?? ie: "i won't be told to wear a
helmet
> >on my motorbike!!..you can't tell me what's good for me!!"...is it this
kin
> d
> >of ignorance that is in the mindset of drivers?
> >I do NOT wish to have any more of my heros taken away from me because of
> >this kind of mentality. It is senseless. IMHO.
> >Dale was more of a hero to me alive then dead.
> >And I am just a Canadian onlooker (big fan).
> >F1 seems overdue for a driver's death. Other than the official in San
> Marino
> >last year, it is since 94 when the beloved Ayrton Senna was taken from
us.
> I
> >REALLY HOPE I AM WRONG.
> >We have seen somne horrific crashes with only broken bones as a result
from
> >some SERIOUS safety rules changes and implementations in F1.
> >I wish NASCAR and all of its devoted members, drivers, crews, wives,
> fanily,
> >etc. all step up their efforts ten fold.
> >I miss Dale.

> >Zoltan Barabas

> A full faced helmet wouldn't have helped.  He also had 8 broken ribs and a
> broken sturnum<---sp?.  This would probably lead to pretty sever internal
> injuries.  If you hit a concrete wall at 60 mph without a seatbelt, your
> chances of living are pretty slim.  When you hit it at 180 mph you have no
> chance without a belt.  It just happened that the head injuries killed him
> first.

> >When Dr. Bohanan is quoted as saying "the *** impact into the steering
> >wheel (cuz belt broke) was severe enough to break the back of Dale's
> skull".
> >He originally said, on that black Sunday, that there was NO sign of
***
> >injury. Not so sure he was telling the truth, maybe just playing into the
> >potential hysteria that he could have caused by saying otherwise.
> >If Dale hit the wheel with his face as he has now said, it is obvious he
> >would have have some visible injury to his chin or jaw.
> >Please Dale Jr., for your own sake (be selfish on this one, man), start
> >wearing a full face helmet. I am no liberal, and I DO NOT enjoy ANY
> >governing body telling me what is good for me. But it is clear and
obvious
> >that Dale Sr. would still be alive (not saying he would not have severe
> >injuries) were it not for a full face helmet.
> >The H.A.N.S. is a different argument all together (one which MUST be
> >supported by all drivers). Maybe I am not familiar with the EXACT
workings
> >of the device, but if his head were not able to make contact with the
> wheel,
> >it is clear what would not have happened. I am merely trying to put 1 and
1
> >together here. It seems so simple to me.
> >4 deaths in NASCAR in 3 yrs. is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE!! Even in this
> >inherently dangerous sport. Why not do everything possible to prevent
> injury
> >or death?
> >Is it a deeply proud southern ignorance that prevents guys from using all
> >safety equipment available to them?? ie: "i won't be told to wear a
helmet
> >on my motorbike!!..you can't tell me what's good for me!!"...is it this
kin
> d
> >of ignorance that is in the mindset of drivers?
> >I do NOT wish to have any more of my heros taken away from me because of
> >this kind of mentality. It is senseless. IMHO.
> >Dale was more of a hero to me alive then dead.
> >And I am just a Canadian onlooker (big fan).
> >F1 seems overdue for a driver's death. Other than the official in San
> Marino
> >last year, it is since 94 when the beloved Ayrton Senna was taken from
us.
> I
> >REALLY HOPE I AM WRONG.
> >We have seen somne horrific crashes with only broken bones as a result
from
> >some SERIOUS safety rules changes and implementations in F1.
> >I wish NASCAR and all of its devoted members, drivers, crews, wives,
> fanily,
> >etc. all step up their efforts ten fold.
> >I miss Dale.

> >Zoltan Barabas

> He wasn't wearing a seat belt at all?

> JB

> > A full faced helmet wouldn't have helped.  He also had 8 broken ribs and
a
> > broken sturnum<---sp?.  This would probably lead to pretty sever
internal
> > injuries.  If you hit a concrete wall at 60 mph without a seatbelt, your
> > chances of living are pretty slim.  When you hit it at 180 mph you have
no
> > chance without a belt.  It just happened that the head injuries killed
him
> > first.

> > >When Dr. Bohanan is quoted as saying "the *** impact into the
steering
> > >wheel (cuz belt broke) was severe enough to break the back of Dale's
> > skull".
> > >He originally said, on that black Sunday, that there was NO sign of
> ***
> > >injury. Not so sure he was telling the truth, maybe just playing into
the
> > >potential hysteria that he could have caused by saying otherwise.
> > >If Dale hit the wheel with his face as he has now said, it is obvious
he
> > >would have have some visible injury to his chin or jaw.
> > >Please Dale Jr., for your own sake (be selfish on this one, man), start
> > >wearing a full face helmet. I am no liberal, and I DO NOT enjoy ANY
> > >governing body telling me what is good for me. But it is clear and
> obvious
> > >that Dale Sr. would still be alive (not saying he would not have severe
> > >injuries) were it not for a full face helmet.
> > >The H.A.N.S. is a different argument all together (one which MUST be
> > >supported by all drivers). Maybe I am not familiar with the EXACT
> workings
> > >of the device, but if his head were not able to make contact with the
> > wheel,
> > >it is clear what would not have happened. I am merely trying to put 1
and
> 1
> > >together here. It seems so simple to me.
> > >4 deaths in NASCAR in 3 yrs. is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE!! Even in this
> > >inherently dangerous sport. Why not do everything possible to prevent
> > injury
> > >or death?
> > >Is it a deeply proud southern ignorance that prevents guys from using
all
> > >safety equipment available to them?? ie: "i won't be told to wear a
> helmet
> > >on my motorbike!!..you can't tell me what's good for me!!"...is it this
> kin
> > d
> > >of ignorance that is in the mindset of drivers?
> > >I do NOT wish to have any more of my heros taken away from me because
of
> > >this kind of mentality. It is senseless. IMHO.
> > >Dale was more of a hero to me alive then dead.
> > >And I am just a Canadian onlooker (big fan).
> > >F1 seems overdue for a driver's death. Other than the official in San
> > Marino
> > >last year, it is since 94 when the beloved Ayrton Senna was taken from
> us.
> > I
> > >REALLY HOPE I AM WRONG.
> > >We have seen somne horrific crashes with only broken bones as a result
> from
> > >some SERIOUS safety rules changes and implementations in F1.
> > >I wish NASCAR and all of its devoted members, drivers, crews, wives,
> > fanily,
> > >etc. all step up their efforts ten fold.
> > >I miss Dale.

> > >Zoltan Barabas

>Please, this is not rec.autos.sports.nascar. You will find your post on-
>topic in there.

>>Please, this is not rec.autos.sports.nascar. You will find your post on-
>>topic in there.

>     Nor is this a Formula 1 or computer hardware newsgroup.  How
>come you aren't giving those threads a hard time?

>Martin
>Long Live Nigel Mansell!