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by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 03:38:36

Just about every sim that has little cliks or sound effects when a menu
option is chosen brings comments about deleting those sounds. I'm not
criticizing this choice, but why does such a small thing seem to irritate so
many people?
the EA F1 titles, Nascar Hear, and now N2k+2 has menu cliks and folks are
already digging for a way to disable them. Why is it a little short sfx
seems to get under people's skin so much?
Once again, I'm not ragging, but I am curious, with so many BIG issues
like physics, multiplayer, graphics etc...a menu clik seems so
inconsciou...so...tiny a thing to worry about.
dave henrie

by **Alan Bernard** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:25:35

Considering all else, this is such a minor thing. Why everyone gets all
hyped up over menu sounds and the like is beyond me. And even if menu
sounds are annoying to some, there is usually a way to edit them or get rid
of them altogether.

Alanb

by **Klin** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:30:33

I don't mind quiet little feedback 'clicks' or whatever. But sometimes it
seems that the developer has given the job of creating the menu sound to the
summer intern, and he/she is determined to create the most awesome,
in-your-face, outrageous .wav ever recorded on the PC, and boy, that'll
convince the boss to hire 'em on the spot! Having to hear the same 'kwel'
effect over and over, well.... If I wanted to hear annoying noises over and
over, I'd have kids. <grin>

Most games are fine by me, but F1-2001 was the worst offender since it had
TWO menu sounds for each button - one when your cursor hovered over the
button and another when you actually pressed it. Sheesh.
...Klinn

by **ymenar** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:31:45

> Just about every sim that has little cliks or sound effects when a menu
> option is chosen brings comments about deleting those sounds. I'm not
> criticizing this choice, but why does such a small thing seem to irritate
so
> many people?

Because there's no purpose to them. "Beeep... beep.. beep. beep
beep". It's annoying and serves nothing. Considering somebody at Papyrus
took time to implement this while everybody hates it... they should look at
what the customer wants really. Next thing, they will add music in the game
menu? <horror>

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by **ymenar** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:32:36

> Dave, did you ever try TOCA2? If you had your in-game sound
> set to a normal level, and then exited to a menu, the menu
> sound was a C-L-A-N-K every time you clicked something.

That sound had the biggest bass response I've ever seen. My subwoofer went
crazy each time with those "C-L-A-N-K".

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by **Klin** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:53:18

<snip>

And it will be in the ever-popular 'Euro-Throb' style. Hmmm, that old game
'MotorHead' comes to mind for some reason...

...Klinn

by **Eldre** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 05:20:12

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I dunno - I can't *think* of any that got on my nerves. Not the sounds,
anyway. There have been some menu configs that bugged me, but nothing major.

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by **Morgan V. Woote** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 06:08:43

I don't know why I hate them so much. I just do. I HATE "clicks". My
downshift paddle on my wheel clicked all the time for a while. Drove me nuts
until I tore it apart eliminated that damned click.

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by **Ed Solhei** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 08:03:39

"Alan Bernardo says:

Now that does depend upon how much time you spend clicking on those menus -
dont it?

;-)

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by **The Other Larr** » Wed, 02 Jan 2002 01:27:19

They could make everyone happy by adding a volume control slider for it.

-Larry

> >> Dave, did you ever try TOCA2? If you had your in-game sound
> >> set to a normal level, and then exited to a menu, the menu
> >> sound was a C-L-A-N-K every time you clicked something.

> >> C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K,
> >> C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K,
> >> C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K, C-L-A-N-K,

> >> Annoying, and would wake the neighbors .. :)

> >Considering all else, this is such a minor thing.

> Not to my wife.

> >Why everyone gets all
> >hyped up over menu sounds and the like is beyond me.

> Obnoxiously loud SOUND.

> A SOUND that is probably 4 times the volume of the
> screaming racecar engine in the sim, every time you click
> a menu item?

> :)

> >And even if menu
> >sounds are annoying to some, there is usually a way to edit them or get
rid
> >of them altogether.

> >Alanb

> Well, Alan, the sound files in TOCA2 were embedded in a large
> file. They weren't removable or hackable until about a year
> after release, when someone thankfully created an editor.

by **Zardo** » Wed, 02 Jan 2002 03:55:37

I agree, or just a simple option to turn it off completely. Some games do
have these options though - all should. I know it's a nitpick, but they can
be *very* annoying.
Which brings me to....why do all the computers in movies make obnoxious
sounds when doing any procsessing or when the user does anything at all -
including typing? It's not like that in real life so why do they make it
look so phony in the movies?

by **Zardo** » Wed, 02 Jan 2002 03:58:18

Not even the one in Nascar Heat? Man, that was one annoying sound.

by **The Other Larr** » Wed, 02 Jan 2002 13:17:14

LOL!

I know what you mean :)

Everytime there is a 'lab' scene on TV or a movie, there are two distinct
sounds. Those of us who've been doing this a while will recognize them
immediately:

1. The squeaky head-seeking noise made by the old Seagate ST-225 20GB Hard
Drive.
2. The 4-speed Floppy Disk sound from the original Macintosh 400k Disk
Drives.

They always seem to be there :)

-Larry

> > They could make everyone happy by adding a volume control slider for it.

> > -Larry

> I agree, or just a simple option to turn it off completely. Some games do
> have these options though - all should. I know it's a nitpick, but they
can
> be *very* annoying.
> Which brings me to....why do all the computers in movies make obnoxious
> sounds when doing any procsessing or when the user does anything at all -
> including typing? It's not like that in real life so why do they make it
> look so phony in the movies?

by **Eldre** » Wed, 02 Jan 2002 13:34:50

writes:

>> I dunno - I can't *think* of any that got on my nerves. Not the sounds,
>> anyway. There have been some menu configs that bugged me, but nothing
>major.

>> Eldred

>Not even the one in Nascar Heat? Man, that was one annoying sound.

I can't remember it. I didn't play it for long enough to get annoyed with it,

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Thu, 03 Jan 2002 01:04:26

>LOL!

>I know what you mean :)

>Everytime there is a 'lab' scene on TV or a movie, there are two distinct
>sounds. Those of us who've been doing this a while will recognize them
>immediately:

>1. The squeaky head-seeking noise made by the old Seagate ST-225 20GB Hard
>Drive.
>2. The 4-speed Floppy Disk sound from the original Macintosh 400k Disk
>Drives.

>They always seem to be there :)

I hate when they have the Macintosh 'chimes' sound on a system that's supposed
to be a mainframe or something...<g>

Eldred
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