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by **Chris Bloo** » Sun, 23 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Yeah, that hairpin at Rouen is terrible. If i don't brake too
late I will brake too early and seeing as I am going too slowly
will lift off the brakes and still end up going too fast when I
get to the hairpin and hitting those friggin' tyres!!!

I just can't get that right yet!! Strangely I always had
problems with certain sections of Magny-Cours in GP2 and was
never competitive there. Those French certainly know how to
frustrate us poor little sim racers!

The chicane at Monte Carlo just takes practice in my opinion,
once you work it out it is relatively easy, I find the last
hairpin more diffucult to judge.

Chris

>Difficult? Hairpin at Rouen/Chicane at Monaco.

>Eldred
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by **Andre** » Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Got to agree with you on that one Gordon. To run a long race and get that
corner right everytime is a challenge like no other.
Andrew

> I am amazed that no one mentioned the CHICANE AT MONTE CARLO!

by **Mike Barlo** » Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I wonder if the first left hander at the P-Ring could be in the "most
dangerous turns" category?

BTW: the GPLEA has put out a new track for GPL! I just wish they made a
better track map because I can see it now.. the NASCAR boys getting lost on
it.

>I am amazed that no one mentioned the CHICANE AT MONTE CARLO!

>IMO. All those other turns are a drive in the park compared to this sucker.
>It scares me every time I drive through it, and I have left more debris and
>scorh marks on the track in that spot, than at any corner of any other
>track. That is, depite only racing it when compelled to by my league
>schedule :)

>Regards,
>Gordon

>> Two questions: what are the most danerous turns in GPL?

>> What are the most difficult turns in GPL?

>> Here's my (limited) opinion... limited because I don't know all the
>> circuits.

>> Most dangerous: turn 3(?) at Rouen. It's so easy to slide off the
>> left turn and down the hill :)

>> Most difficult:
>> - Two turns at Mosport in the first half of the
>> circuit... i think u know which ones I mean :)
>> - Eau-Rouge.

by **pjgt..** » Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:00:00

The most difficult corners in GPL, in my humble opinion, are:

Spa = Eau-Rouge (Say no more?)

Monza = The second Lesmo (I always wish I had pressed the throttle
harder/earlier!)

Watkins Glen = The last hairpin (Bastard corner!)

The Ring = All of them!

Rouen = The hairpin, I always brake too early, or too late, but *never*
just right!

Silverstone = Abbey, very easy to drift too wide here.

Kyalami = The first corner, very easy to get pile-ups here when on-line?

8-)

*Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html

by **Speedy Fas** » Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:00:00

On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:46:58 GMT, "Jan Verschueren"

>I agree... Monaco's chicane and the Masta kink must be the top candidates
>for most dangerous turn.

>St. Antoniusbuche is a close third. While more dangerous than either of the
>above (blind with a crest at the apex) taking it with a large safety margin
>has less impact on lap time, so it ranks below them IMO.

>Most difficult turn will depend on who you talk to. Personally, I find most
>of the corners at Silverstone pretty hard to "nail" consistently.

Actually I find Silverstone the easiest to nail consistently... It's
a pretty easy circuit. You just have to find your brake markers. I
think it's the only circuit where I can consistently run consistent
lap times (in the 90.5-91.5 during a race)

by **Eldre** » Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:00:00

>Yeah, that hairpin at Rouen is terrible. If i don't brake too
>late I will brake too early and seeing as I am going too slowly
>will lift off the brakes and still end up going too fast when I
>get to the hairpin and hitting those friggin' tyres!!!

>I just can't get that right yet!! Strangely I always had
>problems with certain sections of Magny-Cours in GP2 and was
>never competitive there. Those French certainly know how to
>frustrate us poor little sim racers!

>The chicane at Monte Carlo just takes practice in my opinion,
>once you work it out it is relatively easy, I find the last
>hairpin more diffucult to judge.

>Chris

>>Difficult? Hairpin at Rouen/Chicane at Monaco.

>>Eldred
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I guess 100+ laps over the fast 3 or 4 days isn't enough practice. I'm still
holding my breath through the chicane... :-)

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by **Chris Bloo** » Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Hmmmm......I shouldn't have opened my mouth so quickly:( I
guess the last time I was at Monaco i managed to get through the
chicane a couple of laps in succesion and figured I had it
mastered. Just been there again and hit those blasted straw
bales more times than I missed them!

It certainly ain't the easiest!

Chris

>I guess 100+ laps over the fast 3 or 4 days isn't enough

practice. I'm still

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by **David Ewin** » Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:00:00

> Two questions: what are the most danerous turns in GPL?

The Masta Kink at Spa - nothing like hitting a house at 180 mph.

That's a tough question. I have problems with turn one at Mexico (well,
I have problems at a lot of places, but this one seems to catch me out
quite often.

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by **Graeme Nas** » Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Masta, if you get it just a little wrong there is no getting it back :-)
Also the Kallenhard section at the Ring and the second half of the lap
at Zandvoort :-)

Stavelot, Mexico turn 1, and any turn in a BRM.

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by **Jan Hoviu** » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00

> I agree, Masta is the most dangerous turn in GPL. I really wish in the
> movie "Grand Prix" they had put a camera on a real F1 car instead of
> whatever slow car they used for the footage going thru Masta.

Finally, I thought I was the only one having noticed this slowdown in the
movie. It can't possible be that slow in real racing as the shooting made in
this movie (at least at this specific point). Love to see how well the tracks
are duplicated in GPL though.

Jan.

by **Olav K. Malm** » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00

> > I agree, Masta is the most dangerous turn in GPL. I really wish in the
> > movie "Grand Prix" they had put a camera on a real F1 car instead of
> > whatever slow car they used for the footage going thru Masta.

> Finally, I thought I was the only one having noticed this slowdown in the
> movie. It can't possible be that slow in real racing as the shooting made in
> this movie (at least at this specific point). Love to see how well the tracks
> are duplicated in GPL though.

I thought it was only weak engines or something.. :) It's a bit
annoying to hear the car going flat out through Malmedy and Masta.

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by **Andre Warrin** » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I read that all the cars in the movie were not real f1 cars. That
explains why Masta and the monaco chicane look quit easy in the movie
compared to GPL

Andre

On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:41:25 +0200, Jan Hovius

>> I agree, Masta is the most dangerous turn in GPL. I really wish in the
>> movie "Grand Prix" they had put a camera on a real F1 car instead of
>> whatever slow car they used for the footage going thru Masta.

>Finally, I thought I was the only one having noticed this slowdown in the
>movie. It can't possible be that slow in real racing as the shooting made in
>this movie (at least at this specific point). Love to see how well the tracks
>are duplicated in GPL though.

>Jan.

by **ymenar** » Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Almost every engine sound you hear in the movie was done in post-production.
They have much or less relation with how the car actually is on the picture
(in acceleration, neutral or braking).

The best example of that would be the final race at Monza in the movie.
Sound editing is very poor in terms of realism.

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by **Jan Hoviu** » Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:00:00

The shooting from the helicopter is impressive though (I think they are from the
"real" races).

> I read that all the cars in the movie were not real f1 cars. That
> explains why Masta and the monaco chicane look quit easy in the movie
> compared to GPL

> Andre

> On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:41:25 +0200, Jan Hovius

> >> I agree, Masta is the most dangerous turn in GPL. I really wish in the
> >> movie "Grand Prix" they had put a camera on a real F1 car instead of
> >> whatever slow car they used for the footage going thru Masta.

> >Finally, I thought I was the only one having noticed this slowdown in the
> >movie. It can't possible be that slow in real racing as the shooting made in
> >this movie (at least at this specific point). Love to see how well the tracks
> >are duplicated in GPL though.

> >Jan.

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