> >You got that wrong there stick and ball sports sims (ie. Madden '99, NHL
> >'99) kick ass and are realistic yet very fun.
> That's completely wrong. Some people like NHL 99 and Madden 99 as
> arcade games (which is fine, more power to 'em) but niether is even
> close enough to realistic as to be labeled a sim. They are as much a
> sports sim as NFS 3 is an auto sim. Especially NHL 99 - hopelessly
> unrealistic and unlike real hockey.
> Joe
Oh well.
Maybe it's more close to the "American" version of how they are trying to
show you what's hockey but let me tell you if THAT is real hockey I won't
put skates for the rest of my life.
1) Unrealistic puck physics. Even EA admitted that they didn't focused alot
on it. There's almost no gravity, no weight to the puck and the friction is
about non-existant. Those slapshots they do in real-life would kill the
goalies.
2) Unrealistic overall gameplay. No way this is how hockey is. Stricly
offence, with a 3-0-2 position of "everything or die". No real defense,
it's attack attack attack all the time. No real positioning of the players,
you just go for the puck and pass to who is the closest.
3) Unrealistic AI. It goes somehow with 2), but Im sorry those AI would
never be drafted by the NHL. They can't rotate in a true way, their
backward skating is bad they can change direction without loosing speed (in
reality you need to curve your "S" when your going backwards sharply and
loose alot of speed). They are always in constant motion. It's incredible
they go and turn around and around and around and never stops. In real life
you are as often in "sliding" movement or even stopped as in full skating
mode.
Btw, I won't go further (this is off-topic for r.a.s.) but go take a peek at
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.sports and check out how bad EA is flamed because of
their NHL series and how unrealistic they are.
If the only hockey you know is the one you watch on FOX, Im very sorry for
you.
-= Quebecois have Hockey in their ***. Montreal is the Mecca of Hockey.
-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
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-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-= May the Downforce be with you...
"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
Joe
Lutrell :-)
D Sport Racer #74
http://www2.scca.com/amateur/club_racing/runoffs/photogal/dsr-74.jpg
: -= Quebecois have Hockey in their ***. Montreal is the Mecca of Hockey.
Shame about the Nordiques...
Stephen
>>P.S: Think about "Formula 1" a la EA Sports. LOL ok you can stop puking now
>>;( The only thing that could save it is if they take the SportsCar GT game
>>engine.
>I doubt that would make it much better, IMO anyway. I stand, as ever,
>hoping to be corrected.
>Cheers!
>John
I'm guessing from your reply that you've seen the Sportscar GT engine
in action and are not impressed?
I hope I'm wrong.
Mike
I'm curious as to in what manner you mean "dropped the ball" ?
Once you've spent 10 mins downloading and adding the replacement graphics,
MGPRS2 is the finest modern F1 simulator around by a county mile.
Z.
i guess there's nothing we can do about it, but i'd feel better if someone-
anyone-
other than EA could make F1 sims that include the real deals.
that "***-schu" comment was hilarious, BTW.
a bit off topic- i agree that EA's other sports games- esp. NHL99- aren't very
realistic. but i do think they are fun (something to be said for that), and if you
don't use that stupid turbo, you do allow something like defense sometimes....
in much the same way i wouldn't be opposed entirely to an NRev-type of game if it
at least offered some fun gameplay. too bad it doesn't.... of course, it never was
(and wouldn't even be in that case) a _sim_ and we probably shouldn't even talk
about it here.... just my $.02....
mark
JMD.
>i guess there's nothing we can do about it, but i'd feel better if someone-
>anyone-
>other than EA could make F1 sims that include the real deals.
>that "***-schu" comment was hilarious, BTW.
>a bit off topic- i agree that EA's other sports games- esp. NHL99- aren't
very
>realistic. but i do think they are fun (something to be said for that), and
if you
>don't use that stupid turbo, you do allow something like defense
sometimes....
>in much the same way i wouldn't be opposed entirely to an NRev-type of game
if it
>at least offered some fun gameplay. too bad it doesn't.... of course, it
never was
>(and wouldn't even be in that case) a _sim_ and we probably shouldn't even
talk
>about it here.... just my $.02....
>mark
