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N3 Tyre Temp bug?

Stephen Barnet

N3 Tyre Temp bug?

by Stephen Barnet » Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Has anybody else had the problem of the tyre temperatures going DOWN during
a race? And if so, is there a patch yet? I'm trying to play this sim in
Championship mode, but have found it the most buggy game I ever tried.
System lockups when pressing F9, 100% tape on the nose that would not go
away until I rebooted, AI abusing double file yellows, and others that I
have just started reading about in this group. By the way, I saved the game
after qualifying, and the tyre temps go down even after rebooting, so I
guess I'll have to miss that race.
Steve
Paul

N3 Tyre Temp bug?

by Paul » Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Are all of your tires cooling down during a run, or just the left front?

The F9 key issue is discussed in the readme file.

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Kevin Anderso

N3 Tyre Temp bug?

by Kevin Anderso » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

thats no bug, Used to do that in N2  also. As weght in car changes and
speeds decrease the temps can go down at some tracks. But I am talking about
10-20 degrees. I remember having tire temps on the verge or red when I was
hotlapping early in race and then as car slows the temps became more
reasonble.
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Stephen Barnet

N3 Tyre Temp bug?

by Stephen Barnet » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

I think it may be a bug. On the grid they start at 117, and after 20 laps
they are
72 64 60            122 122 118
88 88 88            118 118 118
If I recreate the weather conditions and setup in a single race they behave
normally. These readings are for California at 70 degrees.
Steve


>thats no bug, Used to do that in N2  also. As weght in car changes and
>speeds decrease the temps can go down at some tracks. But I am talking
about
>10-20 degrees. I remember having tire temps on the verge or red when I was
>hotlapping early in race and then as car slows the temps became more
>reasonble.
>--
>Kevin Anderson


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>DK-Racing
>#15 K_Anderson
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Stephen Barnet

N3 Tyre Temp bug?

by Stephen Barnet » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Please see other post for the Tyre temps. I have read the Readme and could
only find the bit about Control - F9, I am just pressing F9 to check my next
pit stop and from time to time it locks up. I'll try next time hitting F9
again and see what happens. My card is a V3 2000 if that helps.
Steve

>Are all of your tires cooling down during a run, or just the left front?

>The F9 key issue is discussed in the readme file.

>-Paul

>Western States Racing League:
>http://www.members.home.net/helipaul/n3.htm

>My reply address is false.
>Please post replies to this news group.
>If you need to e-mail me, it's
>scan-man at home dot com



>> Has anybody else had the problem of the tyre temperatures going DOWN
>during
>> a race? And if so, is there a patch yet? I'm trying to play this sim in
>> Championship mode, but have found it the most buggy game I ever tried.
>> System lockups when pressing F9, 100% tape on the nose that would not go
>> away until I rebooted, AI abusing double file yellows, and others that I
>> have just started reading about in this group. By the way, I saved the
>game
>> after qualifying, and the tyre temps go down even after rebooting, so I
>> guess I'll have to miss that race.
>> Steve

Schlom

N3 Tyre Temp bug?

by Schlom » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

That just doesnt seem possible.  I havent had the same problem at any track but
are you sure its not your setup and/or driving style?  I doubt its driving
(youd have to be crawling for that to be it) so that leaves setup.  Check your
spring rates.  If they're really soft (im talkin 10% on the left) you MIGHT get
really low tire temps.  The left side tires arent to odd.  The LR seems a
little low but like I said that could be setup.  Other than that i cant think
of anything that would do that to the tires unless its a bug...which it may be.
 I never ruled that out but look at those other things first.

Chris

Stephen Barnet

N3 Tyre Temp bug?

by Stephen Barnet » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

The setup was the default Ace, no changes. And as for driving slow, I have
the game opposition set at 99%, and I was on Pole, can't remember the time
but around 38.5 (California) I think. Race laps in Single Race mode are run
at around that time, but with normal temps 180 to 210 degrees around the
car.
Steve (still baffled)


>That just doesnt seem possible.  I havent had the same problem at any track
but
>are you sure its not your setup and/or driving style?  I doubt its driving
>(youd have to be crawling for that to be it) so that leaves setup.  Check
your
>spring rates.  If they're really soft (im talkin 10% on the left) you MIGHT
get
>really low tire temps.  The left side tires arent to odd.  The LR seems a
>little low but like I said that could be setup.  Other than that i cant
think
>of anything that would do that to the tires unless its a bug...which it may
be.
> I never ruled that out but look at those other things first.

>Chris

Don Merpa

N3 Tyre Temp bug?

by Don Merpa » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

I have experienced this problem a couple of times as well.  It only occurs
when you save a race and reenter later on.  On one occasion I waited in the
pits to see how low they would go and they did drop to 0 degrees.  I could
be wrong but it seemed to happen only when you saved the race while the car
was being serviced in the pits.  If you save at any other time, I don't
recall seeing the problem.

Bottom line is you are not the only one to experience this.

Don Merpaw
Team Peregrine


> I think it may be a bug. On the grid they start at 117, and after 20 laps
> they are
> 72 64 60            122 122 118
> 88 88 88            118 118 118
> If I recreate the weather conditions and setup in a single race they
behave
> normally. These readings are for California at 70 degrees.
> Steve


> >thats no bug, Used to do that in N2  also. As weght in car changes and
> >speeds decrease the temps can go down at some tracks. But I am talking
> about
> >10-20 degrees. I remember having tire temps on the verge or red when I
was
> >hotlapping early in race and then as car slows the temps became more
> >reasonble.
> >--
> >Kevin Anderson


> >---------------------------------------------------
> >DK-Racing
> >#15 K_Anderson
> >-------------------------------------------------

Stephen Barnet

N3 Tyre Temp bug?

by Stephen Barnet » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Phew! I was beginning to think I had dreamed it. Yes, saving the game. I
tend to have a long practice and then qualifying session, then save, have a
rest, and go to the (50% distance) race. It makes sense of the 100% grill
tape appearing from time to time as well. Well not sense, 'cos its still a
bug. Wonder when Papy will fix it?
Thanks
Steve

>I have experienced this problem a couple of times as well.  It only occurs
>when you save a race and reenter later on.  On one occasion I waited in the
>pits to see how low they would go and they did drop to 0 degrees.  I could
>be wrong but it seemed to happen only when you saved the race while the car
>was being serviced in the pits.  If you save at any other time, I don't
>recall seeing the problem.

>Bottom line is you are not the only one to experience this.

>Don Merpaw
>Team Peregrine

Eric T. Busc

N3 Tyre Temp bug?

by Eric T. Busc » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

I have so far have been unable to reproduce this problem, but if you
experience the tire temp problem again please send the racesave.biw to

Thanks in advance.

Eric/Papyrus



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