Yeah, I bought my PS1 for GT1(and MLB), but the PS1 had been out for a couple
of years by then. I got both of them used from FuncoLand...
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> > Just saw the E3 movie, might have to buy a Playstation just for this,
> looked
> > pretty amazing.
>You can get them for 100 at EB with a 30 dollar rebate...and if you're
>willing to buy refurbed.
Mike
>XBOX? I finally broke down and got one of those too now that it
>is $150. PGR2 is a fun game. Driving the 'Ring with cars ranging
>from Miatas to Enzos is a blast. While the physics model isn't on
>par with GT3, it is decent. You do have to drive the track
>managing cornering with throttle. It is just pretty exaggerated
>in terms of oversteer/understeer transition with throttle as well
>as grip being too high. Lap times do come out reasonably. And
>they did a pretty nice job modeling the track (judging from videos
>and partial recollections of my half-dozen laps on the real
>thing). The graphics are very nice, the sound is excellent.
>While it isn't GT3, it is quite fun. And hopefully Forza will
>live up to the early hype.
Just how much better do you think the XBox graphics are compared to PS2? I
only ask because I have my PS2 hooked up to my home cinema which is 16 by 10
feet big and the PS2 graphics are pretty blocky - obviously! Doesn't spoil
the GT3 experience, but better graphics would be a big plus point.
Iain
Alas, never. Having proprietary apps is one way they generate
console market share. The Gran Turismo series, made by Polyphony
(Sony) has been a PS exclusive since it came out ca, '97-'98.
The PGR series is made by MS and they've shown no sign of making a
PC version. And since Forza is by MS and a similar team, it is
reasonably likely that they'll do the same.
Why no one makes a game equivalent to GT for the PC in depth and
quality (or better!), I do not know. Possibly since they can't
generate enough sales to make the development and licensing
worthwhile.
A good question. When I first got XBOX, I compared PGR2 to GT3
back to back. Grpahically, I found I preferred PGR2 in some
ways, and GT3 in others. Overall, I decided in favor of GT3! But
then I purchased a 50" widescreen. I was very disappointed by the
blockiness of GT3, whereas PGR2 looks very nice. The 480p (a few
titles are in 720p) and extra resolution & anti-aliasing make a
marked difference. It makes it hard to go back to GT3. I can't
compare other titles, but understand that the care the developers
take is a key factor.
What's going to happen is that the Xbox 2 will be a huge technical payraise
over the present part---and the old titles will be compatible--whereas the
PS3, while an even greater technical leap forward, won't (in the Sony
tradition) be backwardly compatible. And whereas the Xbox 2 will probably
make it to market by this Xmas, Sony (which has a myriad of other probs,
mostly financial) prolly won't get the PS3 out the door until Xmas '05.
In the long run, I'd bet on MS, but short-term, it's gonna be hard to beat
GT4.
> Alas, never. Having proprietary apps is one way they generate
> console market share. The Gran Turismo series, made by Polyphony
> (Sony) has been a PS exclusive since it came out ca, '97-'98.
> The PGR series is made by MS and they've shown no sign of making a
> PC version. And since Forza is by MS and a similar team, it is
> reasonably likely that they'll do the same.
> Why no one makes a game equivalent to GT for the PC in depth and
> quality (or better!), I do not know. Possibly since they can't
> generate enough sales to make the development and licensing
> worthwhile.
Alanb
Eh? What tradition are you talking about? You can play Playstation titles on
the PS2.
Um... no. If the Xbox 2 was going to be out by xmas, they would have announced
it by now.
Its what is known as a killer app, people buy PS2's just so they can
play GT3. If the PS2 didn't have killer apps, then people wouldn't buy
them and Sony wouldn't make money. Simple really.
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> >With Gran Turismo, they'd make a killing if it were released for the PC.
> >They have to realize that. Thus, there must be other reasons for GT not
> >appearing on the PC.
> Its what is known as a killer app, people buy PS2's just so they can
> play GT3. If the PS2 didn't have killer apps, then people wouldn't buy
> them and Sony wouldn't make money. Simple really.
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But get that PS2 bundled with GT4 at about $140, and I might just take the
plunge. When I had a PS2 I played the hell out of GT3. It was a fabulous
game (though any racing game without damage is suspect), but it was to me
all that the PS2 had to offer, game-wise.
It's nice to have the XBox and competing systems. I still think that if
you're looking to racing and sports' games on the console (which is pretty
much all I'm looking for), the XBox is the console to get.
But I'll admit: GT4 looks nice. :)
Alanb
> >MS is
spend
> >to get EA on board?),
> Well one thing they did was not make any of their own sports titles this
year.
> >What's going to happen is that the Xbox 2 will be a huge technical
payraise
> >over the present part---and the old titles will be compatible--whereas
the
> >PS3, while an even greater technical leap forward, won't (in the Sony
> >tradition) be backwardly compatible.
> Eh? What tradition are you talking about? You can play Playstation titles
on
> the PS2.
> >And whereas the Xbox 2 will probably
> >make it to market by this Xmas, Sony (which has a myriad of other probs,
> >mostly financial) prolly won't get the PS3 out the door until Xmas '05.
> Um... no. If the Xbox 2 was going to be out by xmas, they would have
announced
> it by now.
Microsoft has been crushing Sony in sales for 2004, but that's probably
due in large part to the saturation of the market with PS2's. Ala,
there's a larger market for new Xbox owners than new PS2 owners.
Exactly. Alot of the PS2 owners are buy Xboxs also to have both systems.
