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GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

mjones5

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by mjones5 » Fri, 21 May 2004 06:46:19

Just saw the E3 movie, might have to buy a Playstation just for this, looked
pretty amazing.
Alan Bernard

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by Alan Bernard » Fri, 21 May 2004 08:28:52


Bah!  hehe

More and more titles are coming out for the XBox.  My suspicion (at least I
hope) is that GT4 or later version will be coming to the XBox soon.

I don't think the PS2 is good enough to warrant buying it just for GT4.  But
then others I'm sure will disagree.

Alanb

Dav

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by Dav » Fri, 21 May 2004 09:58:45


>More and more titles are coming out for the XBox.  My suspicion (at least I
>hope) is that GT4 or later version will be coming to the XBox soon.

>I don't think the PS2 is good enough to warrant buying it just for GT4.  But
>then others I'm sure will disagree.

Correct ...

.. some of us disagree :-)

And no, small chance of seeing GT4 on the XBox.  But do a search
on "Forza" for the next XBOX attempt at a GT4 clone.  Hopefully
much better than Sega GT.

Anyway, latest word is November (for both?), but that is far from
etched in stone.

elrik

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by elrik » Fri, 21 May 2004 11:22:00


/snip

With you ?

Who would dare ?

Elrikk  ;o)

Crossbon

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by Crossbon » Fri, 21 May 2004 12:55:31

Let it be known that on Wed, 19 May 2004 23:28:52 GMT, "Alan Bernardo"


>More and more titles are coming out for the XBox.  My suspicion (at least I
>hope) is that GT4 or later version will be coming to the XBox soon.

That would be pretty amazing, as GT is OWNED by Sony....

Just for GT4, probably not. But now that a PS2 is only $150, there are enough
other games to make it worth it.

Stuart Becktel

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by Stuart Becktel » Fri, 21 May 2004 13:07:59


> Let it be known that on Wed, 19 May 2004 23:28:52 GMT, "Alan Bernardo"

> >More and more titles are coming out for the XBox.  My suspicion (at least
I
> >hope) is that GT4 or later version will be coming to the XBox soon.

> That would be pretty amazing, as GT is OWNED by Sony....

> >I don't think the PS2 is good enough to warrant buying it just for GT4.
But
> >then others I'm sure will disagree.

> Just for GT4, probably not. But now that a PS2 is only $150, there are
enough
> other games to make it worth it.

You can get them for 100 at EB with a 30 dollar rebate...and if you're
willing to buy refurbed.
Mike Beaucham

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by Mike Beaucham » Fri, 21 May 2004 17:35:19

I read that Turismo 4 will include "all 14 miles of the nurburgring".

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Damien Evan

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by Damien Evan » Fri, 21 May 2004 19:14:48

If so it won't be the first console game to feature it...

Swerv

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by Swerv » Fri, 21 May 2004 21:32:41


>> I read that Turismo 4 will include "all 14 miles of the
>> nurburgring".

> If so it won't be the first console game to feature it...

It apparently will be the first PS2 game to feature it.   From what I've
been reading, it's a much more difficult feat to pull it off on the PS2
vs. the XBox due to RAM and drive-streaming implications.

Admittedly, I haven't been following it that much, but many of my
friends who are really into console racing have been very impressed that
they were able to pull it off on the PS2.

And just to confirm, GT4 does feature it, watched someone race it at E3
(in a McLaren F1 w/ the Fina paintjob, no less).

Jay

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by Jay » Fri, 21 May 2004 21:49:20

I bought a PS2 a year ago for $200 just to play GT3.
Well.... GT3, World Rally Championship, Paris-Dakar Rally and Need For Speed
HPII which was optimized for the PS2 and rated much, much better than the
same game on the XBOX, or PC.

So...I could see someone paying $150 for a PS2+GT4. Then again, I used gift
certificates from Christmas 2002 plus a little cash I had saved up to buy
it, so I really didn't feel all that guilty about the purchase ;-)

As for the full 14 mile Nurburgring... The XBOX exclusive game, Project
Gotham Racing II has it, but... there are no cheat codes so you have to
unlock EVERY challenge/championship before you can run the entire 14 mile
track :-(
(Unless you have an action replay or similar cheat device, and load someone
else's completed game).

That's one thing I really like about the Gran Turismo series.
With cheat codes or an Action Replay you can unlock portions of the game,
like all tracks, all cars, etc, etc so that you can hotlap or race any car
on any circuit. With the XBOX you only have the ability to load someone
else's saved game, with all the championships/challenges completed. You
can't just unlock certain aspects of the game, yet still go through the
championship on your own.



> >> I read that Turismo 4 will include "all 14 miles of the
> >> nurburgring".

> > If so it won't be the first console game to feature it...

> It apparently will be the first PS2 game to feature it.   From what I've
> been reading, it's a much more difficult feat to pull it off on the PS2
> vs. the XBox due to RAM and drive-streaming implications.

> Admittedly, I haven't been following it that much, but many of my
> friends who are really into console racing have been very impressed that
> they were able to pull it off on the PS2.

> And just to confirm, GT4 does feature it, watched someone race it at E3
> (in a McLaren F1 w/ the Fina paintjob, no less).

Damien Evan

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by Damien Evan » Fri, 21 May 2004 22:12:33

What's TRD2 like on PS2?  I've seen it on a friend's Xbox and I can't
imagine it looking anywhere near as good on a PS2.  It would be an
impressive feat if they could mimic the pixel shader effect etc on a PS2.
Iain Mackenzi

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by Iain Mackenzi » Sat, 22 May 2004 04:09:00

Why not? I bought a PS2 just for GT3!  Apart from NFS:Underground, don't use
it for anything else!
Iain
Alan Bernard

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by Alan Bernard » Sat, 22 May 2004 05:07:28


If you want to pay $180, then I have no problem with it.  I wouldn't do it.
Not meaning to start a console war here, but I prefer the XBox.  If I was
meaning to buy an XBox, then I'd get the latest racing title with it.  But
I'm not sure I'd just decide, on a whim, to buy an XBox just for one game.

Alanb

Pez

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by Pez » Sat, 22 May 2004 06:49:24

I bought my first pc for X-WING, TFX, INDYCAR1 and DOOM,

got the PS1 for gt1, and got the ps2 for gt3.

just bought a Logitech Driving Force Pro for N2003, and it turns out its the
wheel designed for GT4 :)

cool!

pez




> > > I don't think the PS2 is good enough to warrant buying it just for
GT4.
> > But
> > > then others I'm sure will disagree.

> > Why not? I bought a PS2 just for GT3!  Apart from NFS:Underground, don't
> use
> > it for anything else!
> > Iain

> If you want to pay $180, then I have no problem with it.  I wouldn't do
it.
> Not meaning to start a console war here, but I prefer the XBox.  If I was
> meaning to buy an XBox, then I'd get the latest racing title with it.  But
> I'm not sure I'd just decide, on a whim, to buy an XBox just for one game.

> Alanb

Dav

GT4 when is it coming out, amazing E3 movie

by Dav » Sat, 22 May 2004 08:07:06

And just for the record, I too purchased a PSX just for GT (and
then GT2) and a PS2 just for GT3.  While I can certainly see
someone questioning buying a machine for one game, I'm happy with
my decision.  And I did so when the damned thing was ~$300.  At
$150, I'd say YES, BUY IT!

XBOX?  I finally broke down and got one of those too now that it
is $150.  PGR2 is a fun game.  Driving the 'Ring with cars ranging
from Miatas to Enzos is a blast.  While the physics model isn't on
par with GT3, it is decent.  You do have to drive the track
managing cornering with throttle.  It is just pretty exaggerated
in terms of oversteer/understeer transition with throttle as well
as grip being too high.  Lap times do come out reasonably.  And
they did a pretty nice job modeling the track (judging from videos
and partial recollections of my half-dozen laps on the real
thing).  The graphics are very nice, the sound is excellent.  
While it isn't GT3, it is quite fun.  And hopefully Forza will
live up to the early hype.


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