rec.autos.simulators

by **Mark Jeangerar** » Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:04:37

No, I wasn't being sarcastic in the first reply. You may notice that I don't post as many
inflammatory messages about GPL or CPR as you do. It's a volume thing. I still get the
same ***that you do most of the time. People are passionate about their software. I
think that's cool. And when I think a lot of people are going overboard I may say
something. But I usually save my remarks for when they will benefit me. For instance, I
think N4 is a giant steaming turd. Now, I don't give a rats ass about circle jerks so why
mention it? But almost every time I've ragged GPL, I've gotten tons of tips that make it
better for me. Not all can be cured, but I have found much enjoyment from the input I've
gotten here, no matter what tone it was given in.

The second one was strictly sarcastic. I don't slap anyone's ass. Jocks are latent homos
and women deserve more respect than that.
--

Mark Jeangerard

> He was sarcastic towards me with his initial AND follow up reply. That's why
> I took a shot at him. Wrong of me? I'm glad you liked it though.

> David G Fisher

> > I follow it all. What don't you understand? Maybe "pisses
> > off" is overstating it, but I read Mark's reply to you as
> > sarcastic.
> > --
> > PD

> > > I like your inability to follow the sequence of events.

> > > It's all below.

> > > David G Fisher

> > > > Personally, I like the way Dave even pisses off the guys
> > > > who agree with him.

> > > > --
> > > > Pat Dotson

> > > > > Oh yeah, I'm generally loved on VROC. They can't wait until I show
> up.
> > > Got presents from
> > > > > everyone on Christmas.

> > > > > --

> > > > > Mark Jeangerard

> > > > > Administrator - GPVL F2
> > > > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/~m.jeangerard/GPVLF2

> > > > > > Yea well, I guess it helps that you do some ass slapping with the
> GPL
> > > boys
> > > > > > on VROC.

> > > > > > David G Fisher

> > > > > > > I have been getting the same shit that you have, I simply go for
> > > less
> > > > > > > quantity.

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > "Racing! - Science for the action minded."

> > > > > > > mark

> > > > > > > > Do you have any idea how much f**ken sh*t I've taken over the
> past
> > > four
> > > > > > > > years for saying what you have about CPR and GPL? Any idea at
> > > all????
> > > > > > :-(

> > > > > > > > David G Fisher

by **David G Fishe** » Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:19:26

Your comment "I simply go for less quantity" was a shot at me. It's wrong
too. Didn't bother me though. Pat apparently didn't understand why I
responded the way I did. BTW, you have posted a lot more inflammatory
messages about GPL than I have. I rarely enter into a GPL thread. Google
will prove it if you want to check. As for CPR, I've barely mentioned it in
years. You sound like Eldred now.

David G Fisher

> No, I wasn't being sarcastic in the first reply. You may notice that I
don't post as many
> inflammatory messages about GPL or CPR as you do. It's a volume thing. I
still get the
> same ***that you do most of the time. People are passionate about their
software. I
> think that's cool. And when I think a lot of people are going overboard I
may say
> something. But I usually save my remarks for when they will benefit me.
For instance, I
> think N4 is a giant steaming turd. Now, I don't give a rats ass about
circle jerks so why
> mention it? But almost every time I've ragged GPL, I've gotten tons of
tips that make it
> better for me. Not all can be cured, but I have found much enjoyment from
the input I've
> gotten here, no matter what tone it was given in.

> The second one was strictly sarcastic. I don't slap anyone's ass. Jocks
are latent homos
> and women deserve more respect than that.
> --

> Mark Jeangerard

> > He was sarcastic towards me with his initial AND follow up reply. That's
why
> > I took a shot at him. Wrong of me? I'm glad you liked it though.

> > David G Fisher

> > > I follow it all. What don't you understand? Maybe "pisses
> > > off" is overstating it, but I read Mark's reply to you as
> > > sarcastic.
> > > --
> > > PD

> > > > I like your inability to follow the sequence of events.

> > > > It's all below.

> > > > David G Fisher

> > > > > Personally, I like the way Dave even pisses off the guys
> > > > > who agree with him.

> > > > > --
> > > > > Pat Dotson

> > > > > > Oh yeah, I'm generally loved on VROC. They can't wait until I
show
> > up.
> > > > Got presents from
> > > > > > everyone on Christmas.

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > Mark Jeangerard

> > > > > > Administrator - GPVL F2
> > > > > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/~m.jeangerard/GPVLF2

> > > > > > > Yea well, I guess it helps that you do some ass slapping with
the
> > GPL
> > > > boys
> > > > > > > on VROC.

> > > > > > > David G Fisher

> > > > > > > > I have been getting the same shit that you have, I simply go
for
> > > > less
> > > > > > > > quantity.

> > > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > "Racing! - Science for the action minded."

> > > > > > > > mark

> > > > > > > > > Do you have any idea how much f**ken sh*t I've taken over
the
> > past
> > > > four
> > > > > > > > > years for saying what you have about CPR and GPL? Any idea
at
> > > > all????
> > > > > > > :-(

> > > > > > > > > David G Fisher

by **Pat Dotso** » Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:38:53

DGF stands corrected. Hehe. Some things never change.

CPR. Damn, I really wanted to like it. After re-installing
it several times over the years to see if my impression would
change, I just can't get into it. It wasn't for lack of
effort. I even created some tracks for CPR. Honestly, even
today, RACER feels more finished than CPR.
--
Pat Dotson

> No, I wasn't being sarcastic in the first reply. You may notice that I don't post as many
> inflammatory messages about GPL or CPR as you do. It's a volume thing. I still get the
> same ***that you do most of the time. People are passionate about their software. I
> think that's cool. And when I think a lot of people are going overboard I may say
> something. But I usually save my remarks for when they will benefit me. For instance, I
> think N4 is a giant steaming turd. Now, I don't give a rats ass about circle jerks so why
> mention it? But almost every time I've ragged GPL, I've gotten tons of tips that make it
> better for me. Not all can be cured, but I have found much enjoyment from the input I've
> gotten here, no matter what tone it was given in.

> The second one was strictly sarcastic. I don't slap anyone's ass. Jocks are latent homos
> and women deserve more respect than that.
> --

> Mark Jeangerard

> > He was sarcastic towards me with his initial AND follow up reply. That's why
> > I took a shot at him. Wrong of me? I'm glad you liked it though.

> > David G Fisher

> > > I follow it all. What don't you understand? Maybe "pisses
> > > off" is overstating it, but I read Mark's reply to you as
> > > sarcastic.
> > > --
> > > PD

> > > > I like your inability to follow the sequence of events.

> > > > It's all below.

> > > > David G Fisher

> > > > > Personally, I like the way Dave even pisses off the guys
> > > > > who agree with him.

> > > > > --
> > > > > Pat Dotson

> > > > > > Oh yeah, I'm generally loved on VROC. They can't wait until I show
> > up.
> > > > Got presents from
> > > > > > everyone on Christmas.

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > Mark Jeangerard

> > > > > > Administrator - GPVL F2
> > > > > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/~m.jeangerard/GPVLF2

> > > > > > > Yea well, I guess it helps that you do some ass slapping with the
> > GPL
> > > > boys
> > > > > > > on VROC.

> > > > > > > David G Fisher

> > > > > > > > I have been getting the same shit that you have, I simply go for
> > > > less
> > > > > > > > quantity.

> > > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > > "Racing! - Science for the action minded."

> > > > > > > > mark

> > > > > > > > > Do you have any idea how much f**ken sh*t I've taken over the
> > past
> > > > four
> > > > > > > > > years for saying what you have about CPR and GPL? Any idea at
> > > > all????
> > > > > > > :-(

> > > > > > > > > David G Fisher

by **Pat Dotso** » Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:48:26

Can you ever stop being a jerk? Is this just fun for you,
to keep dragging things out? You just won't stop.

I look forward to your response, but won't be replying.
At least not unless you say something really interesting,
which would be out of character.

[this should be good]
--
Pat Dotson

> Your comment "I simply go for less quantity" was a shot at me. It's wrong
> too. Didn't bother me though. Pat apparently didn't understand why I
> responded the way I did. BTW, you have posted a lot more inflammatory
> messages about GPL than I have. I rarely enter into a GPL thread. Google
> will prove it if you want to check. As for CPR, I've barely mentioned it in
> years. You sound like Eldred now.

> David G Fisher

> > No, I wasn't being sarcastic in the first reply. You may notice that I
> don't post as many
> > inflammatory messages about GPL or CPR as you do. It's a volume thing. I
> still get the
> > same ***that you do most of the time. People are passionate about their
> software. I
> > think that's cool. And when I think a lot of people are going overboard I
> may say
> > something. But I usually save my remarks for when they will benefit me.
> For instance, I
> > think N4 is a giant steaming turd. Now, I don't give a rats ass about
> circle jerks so why
> > mention it? But almost every time I've ragged GPL, I've gotten tons of
> tips that make it
> > better for me. Not all can be cured, but I have found much enjoyment from
> the input I've
> > gotten here, no matter what tone it was given in.

> > The second one was strictly sarcastic. I don't slap anyone's ass. Jocks
> are latent homos
> > and women deserve more respect than that.
> > --

> > Mark Jeangerard

by **David G Fishe** » Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:59:42

If you and Mark would stop being wrong, and accusing me of things that
aren't true, I wouldn't have to keep replying.

Understand?

David G Fisher

> Can you ever stop being a jerk? Is this just fun for you,
> to keep dragging things out? You just won't stop.

> I look forward to your response, but won't be replying.
> At least not unless you say something really interesting,
> which would be out of character.

> [this should be good]
> --
> Pat Dotson

> > Your comment "I simply go for less quantity" was a shot at me. It's
wrong
> > too. Didn't bother me though. Pat apparently didn't understand why I
> > responded the way I did. BTW, you have posted a lot more inflammatory
> > messages about GPL than I have. I rarely enter into a GPL thread. Google
> > will prove it if you want to check. As for CPR, I've barely mentioned it
in
> > years. You sound like Eldred now.

> > David G Fisher

> > > No, I wasn't being sarcastic in the first reply. You may notice that I
> > don't post as many
> > > inflammatory messages about GPL or CPR as you do. It's a volume thing.
I
> > still get the
> > > same ***that you do most of the time. People are passionate about
their
> > software. I
> > > think that's cool. And when I think a lot of people are going
overboard I
> > may say
> > > something. But I usually save my remarks for when they will benefit
me.
> > For instance, I
> > > think N4 is a giant steaming turd. Now, I don't give a rats ass about
> > circle jerks so why
> > > mention it? But almost every time I've ragged GPL, I've gotten tons of
> > tips that make it
> > > better for me. Not all can be cured, but I have found much enjoyment
from
> > the input I've
> > > gotten here, no matter what tone it was given in.

> > > The second one was strictly sarcastic. I don't slap anyone's ass.
Jocks
> > are latent homos
> > > and women deserve more respect than that.
> > > --

> > > Mark Jeangerard

by **Uncle Feste** » Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:12:55

> Your comment "I simply go for less quantity" was a shot at me. It's wrong
> too. Didn't bother me though. Pat apparently didn't understand why I
> responded the way I did. BTW, you have posted a lot more inflammatory
> messages about GPL than I have. I rarely enter into a GPL thread.

This *may* be true. AFAIR, most of your GPL slams appear in other
threads.

--

Fester

by **Gerry Aitke** » Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:54:40

Lost the ability to edit your ***replies, have you?

The post you made in reply to Pat was untidy, like your mind!

Pompously yours

GDA

by **Eldre** » Thu, 24 Jan 2002 03:18:52

>As for CPR, I've barely mentioned it in
>years. You sound like Eldred now.

Waitaminute... Leave me OUT of this. I don't even *have* CPR...<g>

Eldred
--
Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
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with experience...
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by **Uncle Feste** » Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:04:08

> >As for CPR, I've barely mentioned it in
> >years. You sound like Eldred now.

> Waitaminute... Leave me OUT of this. I don't even *have* CPR...<g>

You can have my copy! <g>

--

Fester

"Is it that we need a nobrainer Linux desktop OS for people with no
brains or should people do a little more reading and smarten up?"
from alt.linux.mandrake NG

by **Eldre** » Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:26:43

writes:

>Fisher"

>> >As for CPR, I've barely mentioned it in
>> >years. You sound like Eldred now.

>> Waitaminute... Leave me OUT of this. I don't even *have* CPR...<g>

>You can have my copy! <g>

Come on - it can't be THAT bad...?

Eldred
--
Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
GPLRank - under construction...

Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
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by **Rafe McAuliff** » Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:41:29

Ohhhh yes it can :)

I think SOS 1937 was modelled on it :-P

Rafe Mc

by **Stephen Ferguso** » Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:37:16

Funny, upgrading had sort of the opposite effect for me, but we're talking
apples and oranges here, as I went from a wacked-out Toshiba PIII-500
notebook with a dodgy Savage graphics card to a 1GHz notebook with a mobile
GeForce2. Being able to run GPL at a constant 36fps at 1280x1024, and with
track and car upgrades, really brought it alive for me. I think the cars
are beautiful, and I love the way I can go wheel to wheel through three
corners. I'm a mech. engineer and dabble a lot with dynamic simulations
(other people's products, I'm no programmer sadly) and I really like the way
there is a cause and effect relationship for everything which happens in
GPL, from suspension motion to body motion etc. It's not perfect, but no
simulation is. In then end, it's the racing experience which keeps me
hooked to GPL, even more so now. Oh, and the fact that I can take it on the
road with me with only 200Mb of disc space...

I loaded up all my old favourites like NFS:PU, Nascar Heat, SBK2000, various
rally sims, and was certainly impressed with the high framerates, lush
graphics etc., but in the end they were dull and were removed from my HD.

GP3-2000 was the big dissapointment for me, because it just won't run well
under Windows XP with the GeForce chip. I like the OS too much to either
ditch it or have the hassle of a dual boot, so I guess I'll never know how
much better GP3 could be. I loved it on my Toshiba.. guess I'll wait for
GP4 or a demo of F1-2001.

cheers
Stephen

by **Uncle Feste** » Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:33:37

> writes:

> >Fisher"

> >> >As for CPR, I've barely mentioned it in
> >> >years. You sound like Eldred now.

> >> Waitaminute... Leave me OUT of this. I don't even *have* CPR...<g>

> >You can have my copy! <g>

> Come on - it can't be THAT bad...?

Got it at a computer show at Gibraltar Trade Center some time back for
$6. Felt ripped off even at that price. :-P

In all fairness, the sound & the sensation of speed are top notch.
Controller feel sucked big time. And the AI....... probably the most
disappointing aspect of all.

--

Fester

"Is it that we need a nobrainer Linux desktop OS for people with no
brains or should people do a little more reading and smarten up?"
from alt.linux.mandrake NG

by **Eldre** » Sun, 27 Jan 2002 07:42:11

>>>You can have my copy! <g>

>>Come on - it can't be THAT bad...?

>>Eldred

>Ohhhh yes it can :)

>I think SOS 1937 was modelled on it :-P

Hehe... I'm considering calling Fester's bluff. I live close enough to him I
could pick it up in person...<G>

Eldred
--
Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
GPLRank - under construction...

Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
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by **Uncle Feste** » Sun, 27 Jan 2002 10:37:00

> >>>You can have my copy! <g>

> >>Come on - it can't be THAT bad...?

> >>Eldred

> >Ohhhh yes it can :)

> >I think SOS 1937 was modelled on it :-P

> Hehe... I'm considering calling Fester's bluff. I live close enough to him I
> could pick it up in person...<G>

No problemo. :-) It's right here beside me, even have the manual to it.

--

Fester

"Is it that we need a nobrainer Linux desktop OS for people with no
brains or should people do a little more reading and smarten up?"
from alt.linux.mandrake NG

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