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OT: Is that the nail in the coffin for CART?

Haqsa

OT: Is that the nail in the coffin for CART?

by Haqsa » Fri, 31 May 2002 06:43:42

The valve is controlled but the air passages to it are not.  That was
the whole scandal last year with Toyota (or was it Honda?) - they were
alleged to have used a manifold design that reduced the pressure seen by
the pop-off valve, which allowed them to run at a higher pressure.
Anyway, not to change the subject but IMO the only thing you can
regulate, and the only thing you need to regulate, in any engine
formula, is fuel usage.  Regulate the amount of fuel they can use during
a race, and if somebody comes up with a magic way of getting more ft-lbs
of work out of that fixed amount of fuel, well then good for them.
Racing is about competition isn't it?


Dave Henri

OT: Is that the nail in the coffin for CART?

by Dave Henri » Fri, 31 May 2002 13:15:37

"Haqsau" <

   But that is 180 degrees opposite of the current direction CART is moving.
For years they limited the fuel and we got more and more races where a guy
hung around the back, pitted, pitted, pitted, pitted and then won when the
leader made ONE pitstop(see Detroit last year)  The current CART rules have
thrown away the fuel limitations to encourage full bore racing....They have
also implemented a  mandatory number of laps between pitstops to keep teams
from trying to sneak the fuel mileage gambit back into the race.
dave henrie

Haqsa

OT: Is that the nail in the coffin for CART?

by Haqsa » Sat, 01 Jun 2002 09:17:45

If that happens then the implication is that they weren't allotted
enough fuel for a normal race pace.  If sufficient fuel is available,
there is nothing to prevent one guy from getting so far ahead of the
pack that that strategy is impossible.  So the fuel rules would have to
be realistic.  Admittedly, I don't know where you would draw the line -
to some extent if you keep increasing the fuel allotment they can keep
turning up the boost.  It would take some thought to prevent the kind of
situation you are talking about, but I still think it could be made to
work.  Maybe you limit the number of pitstops.  Or do like the LeMans
series does and prevent them from fuelling and changing tires
simultaneously.  I believe it can work.


Dave Henri

OT: Is that the nail in the coffin for CART?

by Dave Henri » Sat, 01 Jun 2002 12:53:20


   There have been a few dramatic finishes because of the previous fuel
strategies, but lately, as in last year, several winners(Max Papis) wouldn't
even be close to a race winning pace, but would pop up near the end when the
leaders made thier last stops...very frustrating.
  I remember last year at Cleveland,   Memo Gidley in a Target car was
driving with full boost, while most of the pack was dialed back for fuel
conservation.  HE made his last stop and was quite some distance behind the
leaders...But because he was still on full rich, he blitzed through the
field and almost caught the eventual winner...(some team blocking 'may' have
held him up just enough)
  The reason you can't get away with that full speed strategy is the yellow
flag.  Doesn't matter how fast you are going, if you can't lap the field
before a yellow flag is thrown then you lose all your advantage.    That's
why the new rules seem to have invigorated the racing.   Fuel conservation
runs are gone and the 'pedal to the metal' style of racing has returned.
  dave henrie


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