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Frame rate ???

H Cameron Purdi

Frame rate ???

by H Cameron Purdi » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Apologies if this is covering old territory but I'm new to this. I have a
lot of problems with frame rate and can't seem to improve it any even by
reducing the resolution....in fact the higher the resolution the higher the
frame rate ??

I run a 350 processor and a voodoo 2 card but don't seem to get over 12 fps
when in car (even with all the details off)...Nintendo view goes up to
36....which is nice.

TIA

Cameron

Dave Henri

Frame rate ???

by Dave Henri » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

  I'm assuming GPL?  
dh

> Apologies if this is covering old territory but I'm new to this. I have a
> lot of problems with frame rate and can't seem to improve it any even by
> reducing the resolution....in fact the higher the resolution the higher the
> frame rate ??

> I run a 350 processor and a voodoo 2 card but don't seem to get over 12 fps
> when in car (even with all the details off)...Nintendo view goes up to
> 36....which is nice.

> TIA

> Cameron

Eldre

Frame rate ???

by Eldre » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00



>Apologies if this is covering old territory but I'm new to this. I have a
>lot of problems with frame rate and can't seem to improve it any even by
>reducing the resolution....in fact the higher the resolution the higher the
>frame rate ??

>I run a 350 processor and a voodoo 2 card but don't seem to get over 12 fps
>when in car (even with all the details off)...Nintendo view goes up to
>36....which is nice.

>TIA

>Cameron

12?!?  What resolution, and how many AI?  If you're running solo, it should be
better than that...  How much RAM do you have?

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bph..

Frame rate ???

by bph.. » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I have a PII 350 and Voodoo3 and get steady 36 with nearly everything
on at 1024.  You do have 3dfx selected in graphics options in gpl,
right???



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H Cameron Purdi

Frame rate ???

by H Cameron Purdi » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Oh, so many questions...........here goes.

I do have a 3dfx, Voodoo 2 card and I have it selected in the GPL (yes I did
mean GPL) menu....where it the game is using it seems in doubt.

I have 128 RAM so, I think you'll agree so shortage there.

Like I said , the higher the resolution the higher the frame rate and
viewing from outside the***pit it runs at 36 fps...it's only in-car that
the FR goes through the floor. I have switched of everything and reduced the
AI to six....very slight improvement....it nearly went up to
14....wow.....and, finally, it's not much better if I run solo.

I also downloaded a patch from Alison Hine but that made little difference.

I have been playing this game for all of 4 days and think it is the dogs
bollocks....just the FR that is a pain.

Thanks guys.

Cameron


> I have a PII 350 and Voodoo3 and get steady 36 with nearly everything
> on at 1024.  You do have 3dfx selected in graphics options in gpl,
> right???



> > Apologies if this is covering old territory but I'm new to this. I
> have a
> > lot of problems with frame rate and can't seem to improve it any even
> by
> > reducing the resolution....in fact the higher the resolution the
> higher the
> > frame rate ??

> > I run a 350 processor and a voodoo 2 card but don't seem to get over
> 12 fps
> > when in car (even with all the details off)...Nintendo view goes up to
> > 36....which is nice.

> > TIA

> > Cameron

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Before you buy.

Dave Henri

Frame rate ???

by Dave Henri » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

  Those symptoms...dead slow in car....are like a TNT/Nvidia problem.
I'm guessing that your system is using the main vidcard in gpl instead
of the V2.
dave henrie

> Oh, so many questions...........here goes.

> I do have a 3dfx, Voodoo 2 card and I have it selected in the GPL (yes I did
> mean GPL) menu....where it the game is using it seems in doubt.

> I have 128 RAM so, I think you'll agree so shortage there.

> Like I said , the higher the resolution the higher the frame rate and
> viewing from outside the***pit it runs at 36 fps...it's only in-car that
> the FR goes through the floor. I have switched of everything and reduced the
> AI to six....very slight improvement....it nearly went up to
> 14....wow.....and, finally, it's not much better if I run solo.

> I also downloaded a patch from Alison Hine but that made little difference.

> I have been playing this game for all of 4 days and think it is the dogs
> bollocks....just the FR that is a pain.

> Thanks guys.

> Cameron


> > I have a PII 350 and Voodoo3 and get steady 36 with nearly everything
> > on at 1024.  You do have 3dfx selected in graphics options in gpl,
> > right???



> > > Apologies if this is covering old territory but I'm new to this. I
> > have a
> > > lot of problems with frame rate and can't seem to improve it any even
> > by
> > > reducing the resolution....in fact the higher the resolution the
> > higher the
> > > frame rate ??

> > > I run a 350 processor and a voodoo 2 card but don't seem to get over
> > 12 fps
> > > when in car (even with all the details off)...Nintendo view goes up to
> > > 36....which is nice.

> > > TIA

> > > Cameron

> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> > Before you buy.

Brett C. Camma

Frame rate ???

by Brett C. Camma » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

On Sat, 3 Jun 2000 17:29:17 +0100, "H Cameron Purdie"


>Also, is there some problems attached to using the 'behind car' view ?? I
>would eventually like to play online, once I can keep it on the grey stuff

Some say it spoils the purity of the sim experience. I think they also
get offended if you don't keep your pinky extended while sipping your
tea, though, too. <g>

Biggest problem with racing on-line in chase view is that you lose
your mirrors and that's pretty important info if you plan on being a
thoughtful, curteous racer against other humans.  I've done chase view
on-line when I simply could not achieve an acceptable FPS at a
particular track (I'm "hardware challenged" at present) and simply
took great care to listen for the sound of another car behind me.
Considering my rather tepid driving skills at present, I just would
hold my line entering a straightaway and accelerate gradually so that
they could pass me.

If you *are* good and want to dice wheel-to-wheel then chase view with
no mirrors is going to be extremely challenging to do well.

As far as your problem goes, it sounds a bit odd.  You do indeed have
3dfx selected in your graphics options?  Be sure and set your mirrors
to "cars only" as this hammers the FPS.  In fact, I think it's why
chase view is so much faster.  Less CPU horsepower is required.  Also,
add a file called Glide.Ini to your GPL directory and add the
following:

Mirror Frequency=6

The number specifies how many frames between updates to your mirrors
and should pep up your FPS when in car.  From what I've heard and
experienced myself, turning on all the checkboxes only has about a 2
FPS impact, but moving the detail slider off of full left has a far
greater impact on FPS.

Regards,
Brett C. Cammac
That's Racing! Motorsports
Pompano Beach, FL

H Cameron Purdi

Frame rate ???

by H Cameron Purdi » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

The detail Bias was set to zero....the hunt goes on...........guess I'll
just have to master the arcade mode.

Cheers


> Your in-car fps sounds like you are running in software but since you
> get 36 in arcade, that must not be it.  You didnt say where you have
> the detail slider set.  Make sure it is below 1/2.



> > Oh, so many questions...........here goes.

> > I do have a 3dfx, Voodoo 2 card and I have it selected in the GPL
> (yes I did
> > mean GPL) menu....where it the game is using it seems in doubt.

> > I have 128 RAM so, I think you'll agree so shortage there.

> > Like I said , the higher the resolution the higher the frame rate and
> > viewing from outside the***pit it runs at 36 fps...it's only in-car
> that
> > the FR goes through the floor. I have switched of everything and
> reduced the
> > AI to six....very slight improvement....it nearly went up to
> > 14....wow.....and, finally, it's not much better if I run solo.

> > I also downloaded a patch from Alison Hine but that made little
> difference.

> > I have been playing this game for all of 4 days and think it is the
> dogs
> > bollocks....just the FR that is a pain.

> > Thanks guys.

> > Cameron



> > > I have a PII 350 and Voodoo3 and get steady 36 with nearly
> everything
> > > on at 1024.  You do have 3dfx selected in graphics options in gpl,
> > > right???



> > > > Apologies if this is covering old territory but I'm new to this. I
> > > have a
> > > > lot of problems with frame rate and can't seem to improve it any
> even
> > > by
> > > > reducing the resolution....in fact the higher the resolution the
> > > higher the
> > > > frame rate ??

> > > > I run a 350 processor and a voodoo 2 card but don't seem to get
> over
> > > 12 fps
> > > > when in car (even with all the details off)...Nintendo view goes
> up to
> > > > 36....which is nice.

> > > > TIA

> > > > Cameron

> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> > > Before you buy.

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Before you buy.

Dave Henri

Frame rate ???

by Dave Henri » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

  there used to be a bunch of utilities that would assign which vid card
to use....I "think" it was called tweak3d but that is pretty hazy.
dave henrie

> That sounds possible....I don't suppose you have any ides how to fix the
> problem.

> Also, is there some problems attached to using the 'behind car' view ?? I
> would eventually like to play online, once I can keep it on the grey stuff

> Cameron



> >   Those symptoms...dead slow in car....are like a TNT/Nvidia problem.
> > I'm guessing that your system is using the main vidcard in gpl instead
> > of the V2.
> > dave henrie


> > > Oh, so many questions...........here goes.

> > > I do have a 3dfx, Voodoo 2 card and I have it selected in the GPL (yes I
> did
> > > mean GPL) menu....where it the game is using it seems in doubt.

> > > I have 128 RAM so, I think you'll agree so shortage there.

> > > Like I said , the higher the resolution the higher the frame rate and
> > > viewing from outside the***pit it runs at 36 fps...it's only in-car
> that
> > > the FR goes through the floor. I have switched of everything and reduced
> the
> > > AI to six....very slight improvement....it nearly went up to
> > > 14....wow.....and, finally, it's not much better if I run solo.

> > > I also downloaded a patch from Alison Hine but that made little
> difference.

> > > I have been playing this game for all of 4 days and think it is the dogs
> > > bollocks....just the FR that is a pain.

> > > Thanks guys.

> > > Cameron



> > > > I have a PII 350 and Voodoo3 and get steady 36 with nearly everything
> > > > on at 1024.  You do have 3dfx selected in graphics options in gpl,
> > > > right???



> > > > > Apologies if this is covering old territory but I'm new to this. I
> > > > have a
> > > > > lot of problems with frame rate and can't seem to improve it any
> even
> > > > by
> > > > > reducing the resolution....in fact the higher the resolution the
> > > > higher the
> > > > > frame rate ??

> > > > > I run a 350 processor and a voodoo 2 card but don't seem to get over
> > > > 12 fps
> > > > > when in car (even with all the details off)...Nintendo view goes up
> to
> > > > > 36....which is nice.

> > > > > TIA

> > > > > Cameron

> > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> > > > Before you buy.


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