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ICR2 - Can't stay on the track!

Craig Hopki

ICR2 - Can't stay on the track!

by Craig Hopki » Mon, 29 Jan 1996 04:00:00



I would tend to agree with you Fraser.   I have spent some time
practicing at Long Beach and I must say that my 1976 Honda Civic can
corner better at 50 MPH (80 KPH) than this wider, lower and race tyre
shod racing car.   Of course it falls short of the acceleration and
top end speed.   My Point?   The track surfaces need repaving in the
patch.

Craig.
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John Ka

ICR2 - Can't stay on the track!

by John Ka » Mon, 29 Jan 1996 04:00:00



>>There are many people on this newsgroup who harp on about how
>>wonderful ICR2 is and also justify the games difficulty in terms
>>of "well, a real IndyCar is difficult to drive, so why not the
>>simulation....". While ICR2 makes a good stab at re-creating the
>>physics model of the various forces an IndyCar may be subjected
>>to, the game fails on two accounts:

>I would tend to agree with you Fraser.   I have spent some time
>practicing at Long Beach and I must say that my 1976 Honda Civic can
>corner better at 50 MPH (80 KPH) than this wider, lower and race tyre
>shod racing car.   Of course it falls short of the acceleration and
>top end speed.   My Point?   The track surfaces need repaving in the
>patch.
>Craig.

Craig and Fraser:
        The key in the right setup - stay with easy for a long time.  The corners
on those temporary street courses can be quite tight.  The hot shots are now
already down in the low 51's at Long Beach.  Most start out unalble to break
one minute but after 100 laps or so you should be in the high 50's, even with
the easy setup.  I am a complete novice and can now run 55's comfortably when
qualifying.   The three most important ways to improve are practice - practice
- practice.   Every time you knock off another tenth, it is very satisfying.

John Kane  

Craig Hopki

ICR2 - Can't stay on the track!

by Craig Hopki » Tue, 30 Jan 1996 04:00:00





>>>There are many people on this newsgroup who harp on about how
>>>wonderful ICR2 is and also justify the games difficulty in terms
>>>of "well, a real IndyCar is difficult to drive, so why not the
>>>simulation....". While ICR2 makes a good stab at re-creating the
>>>physics model of the various forces an IndyCar may be subjected
>>>to, the game fails on two accounts:

>>I would tend to agree with you Fraser.   I have spent some time
>>practicing at Long Beach and I must say that my 1976 Honda Civic can
>>corner better at 50 MPH (80 KPH) than this wider, lower and race tyre
>>shod racing car.   Of course it falls short of the acceleration and
>>top end speed.   My Point?   The track surfaces need repaving in the
>>patch.

>>Craig.

>Craig and Fraser:
>    The key in the right setup - stay with easy for a long time.  The corners
>on those temporary street courses can be quite tight.  The hot shots are now
>already down in the low 51's at Long Beach.  Most start out unalble to break
>one minute but after 100 laps or so you should be in the high 50's, even with
>the easy setup.  I am a complete novice and can now run 55's comfortably when
>qualifying.   The three most important ways to improve are practice - practice
>- practice.   Every time you knock off another tenth, it is very satisfying.

>John Kane  

Thanks for taking the time to add to the string (thread?) John.   My
best at Long Beach is 53.133 secs but it still feels too slippery.
That notwithstanding, I had a 50% race last night and had a ball.

I am not sorry I spent my $99 but I think a patch is required pretty
damn quick.   If Papryus can fix things like they did for NASCAR v1.2
then I will never post a bad opinion again.

Craig
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Steven Blackwe

ICR2 - Can't stay on the track!

by Steven Blackwe » Sat, 10 Feb 1996 04:00:00

With reference to using a T2 with ICR2, i must say its a lot easier to
stay on the track, than using keys, although Jed may disagree with
this. Also when going through a corner, you can enter faster without
it being too critical as you can 'balance' the car in the corner
through use of accelerator / brake.

Also I find it easier to use half power when exiting corner, until I
can opposite lock it out of a corner with the rear coming around, this
doesn't improve laptimes, but its much more ***y fun than spinning.

It does seem that the ICR2 is much easier to spin, and I seem to be
much more sensative under braking for a slow corner after a fast
straight, like on the back straight at Watkins, after the flat out bit
at the start, as I approach for the chicane I find myself see-sawing
with the wheel, just to keep it straight under braking, this I admit
must be something to do with my setups.

Buy a T2, it's more fun than a heart - bypass operation (not that I've
had one!!!)

- Steve

Michael E. Carv

ICR2 - Can't stay on the track!

by Michael E. Carv » Wed, 14 Feb 1996 04:00:00

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: It does seem that the ICR2 is much easier to spin, and I seem to be
: much more sensative under braking for a slow corner after a fast
: straight, like on the back straight at Watkins, after the flat out bit
: at the start, as I approach for the chicane I find myself see-sawing
: with the wheel, just to keep it straight under braking, this I admit
: must be something to do with my setups.

Sounds like you have to much front brake bias.  With alot of front brake
bias you have to keep the front wheels straight under heavy braking.
You are shifting the majority of the cars weight onto the steering
wheels.  Any slight movement right or left is multiplied many fold.
You also may want to lessen your steering lock if you haven't already
done so.

I own the T1 version and couldn't race without it.  I love to make minor
adjustments to the steering when taking corners a little too hard.  More
like the real thing.

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