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After N2003, LFS feels like an arcade game.

Larr

After N2003, LFS feels like an arcade game.

by Larr » Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:12:58

That has been my experience too.  I own both cards, and the GTXP has been on
the shelf for over a year.

Larry


> They don't.  Hercules doesn't match the compatibility/stability of TBSC.

> --
> Joe M.



> > Interesting...

> > The GTXP has the same basic reference design and chipset as my Turtle
> Beach
> > Santa Cruz, and I don't have those issues.  The only time I ever did was
> > with those blasted Live! cards.

> > Maybe Hercules doesn't have the drivers quite right yet.

> > Larry



> > > Hercules Theatre XP



> > > > I suspect you are running a Live! card or Audigy, right?

> > > > Larry



> > > > > actually its more like a LP popping on the turntable than hissing.
> > Same
> > > > > sound n2202 made, even after the patch. Just one of those things.
I
> > can
> > > > > live with it but it isn't a configurable fix from what I can tell.



> > > > > > That 'hissing' noise might be wind.  Knock the "Other Sounds"
> > setting
> > > > down
> > > > > > to 10 or so and see if it's any different.

> > > > > > I don't care much for the 'other' sounds.

> > > > > > Larry



> > > > > > > Brave?  What's bravery got to do with it?  IMO, GTR2002 is
weak.
> > > > There
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > a thread that was talking about the sound being very different
> > with
> > > > > > > different soundcards and perhaps that's a factor.  The sound
on
> my
> > > > > Theatre
> > > > > > > XP is horrible.  Having said that, it seems Papy hasn't
> perfected
> > > > their
> > > > > > > hissing problem with N2003 either but the sound is still
pretty
> > good
> > > > if
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > overlook that.  In answer to your question about which are not
> > > arcade
> > > > > > games.
> > > > > > > None of them.  But the closest thing in my mind to making me
> > > dissolve
> > > > > into
> > > > > > > the game has been the nascar series.  GPL was excellent as
well
> > but
> > > I
> > > > am
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > round track guy and my bias lies there, without apology.  I
just
> > > have
> > > > > > never
> > > > > > > got the GTR2002 thing.  Ran it for about a week after hearing
> > folks
> > > go
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > and on about it, really trying to see what the hype was about
> and
> > > > never
> > > > > > got
> > > > > > > it.  It has nothing to do with bravery man.  This is all
opinion
> > and
> > > > I
> > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > as hell don't live in this newsgroup.  I am posting the first
> time
> > I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > chance after seeing replies to my post.  To each his own and
> knock
> > > > > > yourself
> > > > > > > out there Joe. Frankly I don't think it's such a substandard
> > add-on
> > > > > really
> > > > > > > if you judge the add-on by the original game.  It improves on
> the
> > > > > original
> > > > > > > but that isn't saying much to me.  Anyways, don't get all
pissy.
> > > It's
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > > one guys .2 cents which is all anything is worth on usenet.







> > > > > > > > >> "Joe M." Much ado about nothing with that
> > > > > > > > >> >> mod.

> > > > > > > > >>    Yes it is a mod with weaknesses, and yes Nr2k3 is not
> 100%
> > > > > > > > >>    serious.
> > > > > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > >> what would you recomend in place of these?
> > > > > > > > >> dave henrie

> > > > > > > > > You're replying to the wrong guy Dave.  I love GTR 2002, I
> was
> > > > just
> > > > > > > > > being my sarcastic self.

> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Joe M.

> > > > > > > > Sorry Joe.

> > > > > > > >    I was hopin Kevin was smart enough to keep reading
through
> a
> > > > thread
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > brave enough to give us his opinion.  I am interested in
what
> > sim
> > > he
> > > > > > feels
> > > > > > > > is NOT an arcade product.
> > > > > > > > dave henrie

Kevin Web

After N2003, LFS feels like an arcade game.

by Kevin Web » Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:40:02

Wouldn't give my XP up for anything.  That is unfortunate if the Hercules
card is the root of the problem, though I experience the same audio issues
on other boxes with integrated sound.  Again, unfortunate, but I love this
audio solution on the whole.  Top notch.


> That has been my experience too.  I own both cards, and the GTXP has been
on
> the shelf for over a year.

> Larry



> > They don't.  Hercules doesn't match the compatibility/stability of TBSC.

> > --
> > Joe M.



> > > Interesting...

> > > The GTXP has the same basic reference design and chipset as my Turtle
> > Beach
> > > Santa Cruz, and I don't have those issues.  The only time I ever did
was
> > > with those blasted Live! cards.

> > > Maybe Hercules doesn't have the drivers quite right yet.

> > > Larry



> > > > Hercules Theatre XP



> > > > > I suspect you are running a Live! card or Audigy, right?

> > > > > Larry



> > > > > > actually its more like a LP popping on the turntable than
hissing.
> > > Same
> > > > > > sound n2202 made, even after the patch. Just one of those
things.
> I
> > > can
> > > > > > live with it but it isn't a configurable fix from what I can
tell.



> > > > > > > That 'hissing' noise might be wind.  Knock the "Other Sounds"
> > > setting
> > > > > down
> > > > > > > to 10 or so and see if it's any different.

> > > > > > > I don't care much for the 'other' sounds.

> > > > > > > Larry



> > > > > > > > Brave?  What's bravery got to do with it?  IMO, GTR2002 is
> weak.
> > > > > There
> > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > a thread that was talking about the sound being very
different
> > > with
> > > > > > > > different soundcards and perhaps that's a factor.  The sound
> on
> > my
> > > > > > Theatre
> > > > > > > > XP is horrible.  Having said that, it seems Papy hasn't
> > perfected
> > > > > their
> > > > > > > > hissing problem with N2003 either but the sound is still
> pretty
> > > good
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > overlook that.  In answer to your question about which are
not
> > > > arcade
> > > > > > > games.
> > > > > > > > None of them.  But the closest thing in my mind to making me
> > > > dissolve
> > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > the game has been the nascar series.  GPL was excellent as
> well
> > > but
> > > > I
> > > > > am
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > round track guy and my bias lies there, without apology.  I
> just
> > > > have
> > > > > > > never
> > > > > > > > got the GTR2002 thing.  Ran it for about a week after
hearing
> > > folks
> > > > go
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > and on about it, really trying to see what the hype was
about
> > and
> > > > > never
> > > > > > > got
> > > > > > > > it.  It has nothing to do with bravery man.  This is all
> opinion
> > > and
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > as hell don't live in this newsgroup.  I am posting the
first
> > time
> > > I
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > chance after seeing replies to my post.  To each his own and
> > knock
> > > > > > > yourself
> > > > > > > > out there Joe. Frankly I don't think it's such a substandard
> > > add-on
> > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > if you judge the add-on by the original game.  It improves
on
> > the
> > > > > > original
> > > > > > > > but that isn't saying much to me.  Anyways, don't get all
> pissy.
> > > > It's
> > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > one guys .2 cents which is all anything is worth on usenet.







> > > > > > > > > >> "Joe M." Much ado about nothing with that
> > > > > > > > > >> >> mod.

> > > > > > > > > >>    Yes it is a mod with weaknesses, and yes Nr2k3 is
not
> > 100%
> > > > > > > > > >>    serious.
> > > > > > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > >> what would you recomend in place of these?
> > > > > > > > > >> dave henrie

> > > > > > > > > > You're replying to the wrong guy Dave.  I love GTR 2002,
I
> > was
> > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > being my sarcastic self.

> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Joe M.

> > > > > > > > > Sorry Joe.

> > > > > > > > >    I was hopin Kevin was smart enough to keep reading
> through
> > a
> > > > > thread
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > brave enough to give us his opinion.  I am interested in
> what
> > > sim
> > > > he
> > > > > > > feels
> > > > > > > > > is NOT an arcade product.
> > > > > > > > > dave henrie

Kevin Web

After N2003, LFS feels like an arcade game.

by Kevin Web » Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:41:38

Perhaps reading up the thread next time will help.  While the topic was LFS,
the subject had turned to GTR2002.


> Your way out of line.

> Nacar2k is simulating a full on race car,while LFS at the moment is
> simulating 200 road cars.
> They are far more docile so they will feel more mundane and there is less
> SCOPE for the games phsyics to show.

> Wait until we see some different and more powerful cars for LFS before a
> comparison


> > Oh no. Mob rules man.  If everybody ele likes it you must not talk bad
> about
> > it.

> > I'm with ya.  I wouldn't have F1 installed if it weren't for the mod,
but
> > even with it, after giving it a fair chance, the gtr executable still
> > doesn't get punched very often.  Slightly better than average auto sim.



> > > I don't need to take a closer look.  I run it all the time and I know
> how
> > it
> > > feels to ME.  That doesn't mean it feels the same to you, or that it
> > matters
> > > in the least.

> > > To me, it's just 'ok' and without the GTR mod I'd probably not have it
> on
> > my
> > > drive any more.

> > > Larry



> > > > > It's "ok".  Doesn't feel like anything special to me.  It still
> feels
> > > like
> > > > > the pivot point for the cars is halfway between the***pit and
the
> > > front
> > > > > tires.

> > > > Again, the vast majority of sim fans will disagree with you.  'Take
a
> > > closer
> > > > look' as they say.


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