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Anybody using the EyeScream 3D Glasses

Mark Smi

Anybody using the EyeScream 3D Glasses

by Mark Smi » Thu, 11 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Sorry.  No UV or gamma ray protection - now THAT would be a nice features.

On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:21:25 +0000, Graeme Nash


>>Plus they are wireless and reasonably comfortable.
>They don't melt your eyes any more than a standard monitor do they?

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Mark Smi

Anybody using the EyeScream 3D Glasses

by Mark Smi » Thu, 11 Feb 1999 04:00:00

They fit over regular glasses but then they stick out just far enough that the
frames become a visible distraction (ever see the Steve Martin movie - The Jerk)

You have to force yourself to ignore them.  I had much better results once I put
my contacts in although the 3D games tends to make you forget to blink so they
dry out fast.


Vince Fishe

Anybody using the EyeScream 3D Glasses

by Vince Fishe » Thu, 11 Feb 1999 04:00:00


>>>There is support for over 200 games and they work with any existing Voodoo2
>>>card
>>>you may already have.  Plus they are wireless and reasonably comfortable.

>>How are they for those of us who already wear glasses?

>>-don

Does it slow down fps in the games?
And how long can u wear them b4 u get headaches etc.?
And how much and where can u get them in the UK?

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Mark Smi

Anybody using the EyeScream 3D Glasses

by Mark Smi » Fri, 12 Feb 1999 04:00:00

It doesn't touch your FPS because it isn't using your CPU - it is only
intercepting a signal from your video card and splitting it between each of your
eyes.

I've worn for 3 hours and not even had the slightest twinge of a headache.

Go to www.wicked3d.com to find out where you can buy them Internationally.  You
can always order direct from Metabyte.




>>>>There is support for over 200 games and they work with any existing Voodoo2
>>>>card
>>>>you may already have.  Plus they are wireless and reasonably comfortable.

>>>How are they for those of us who already wear glasses?

>>>-don

>Does it slow down fps in the games?
>And how long can u wear them b4 u get headaches etc.?
>And how much and where can u get them in the UK?

>--
>Vince Fisher

Ken Moran

Anybody using the EyeScream 3D Glasses

by Ken Moran » Fri, 12 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Yup, I agree, the proper stereo.cfg file must be used.  You got my
curiosity though - I'll give Monaco a try.  

Have you tried editing the file? I found the ZPD value can range from
2000 to 40000 in different config files.  By putting in some extreme
numbers you get some interesting results.

I emailed Metabyte, asking for some better documentation on the config
files and the answer I got was a polite "sorry, we can't provide that
info...."

Do you know any FAQs on the web that might provide some insight into
editing these files?




> >My personal observations are that the glasses have never given me an
> >advantage in games. I still stink in GPL..... :^)

> >The effect is great, I agree, but for me, driving sims just don't seem
> >to lend themselves well to the glasses - GPL looks pretty much the same,
> >Motoracer  2 is the same story.  Viper Racing is a little buggy with the
> >glasses (I wish it used glide since the Metabyte glide wrapper seem to
> >work best). Surprisingly MS Cart Precision Racing works quite well and
> >the stereo effect seems to "pull" me into the game more (it's still CPR
> >though :^) ).  Monster Truck Madness 2 works also (the 2D***pit is
> >best turned off) except the trucks don't look real - they look like
> >little toys bouncing around "inside" the monitor.

> >Do You get different results?

> Make sure you are using the proper STEREO.CFG file for Grand Prix Legends.
> You say you didn't see any major difference and to me that is one of the biggest
> games to actually show a difference.  Driving Monaco is actually like being
> there.  Plus you can see every detail of the other cars poking out of the screen
> and the track extends a good 20-30" beyond the surface of your monitor.

Ken Moran

Anybody using the EyeScream 3D Glasses

by Ken Moran » Fri, 12 Feb 1999 04:00:00

They work surprisingly well over my glasses.  They don't weigh much and
they fit snug enough that they stay where you put 'em.  

> >There is support for over 200 games and they work with any existing Voodoo2
> >card
> >you may already have.  Plus they are wireless and reasonably comfortable.

> How are they for those of us who already wear glasses?

> -don

Ken Moran

Anybody using the EyeScream 3D Glasses

by Ken Moran » Fri, 12 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Regarding FPS: There's two answers to that.  

If I don't use Metabyte's resolution enhancement feature (RE2Flex) then
I find no effect on FPS.

If I do use RE2Flex then I do notice a difference.  I can easily accept
the FPS drop since it's not that much and what I get in return is a nice
crisp display.

Sorry, I'm not offering an objective answer.



> >>>There is support for over 200 games and they work with any existing Voodoo2
> >>>card
> >>>you may already have.  Plus they are wireless and reasonably comfortable.

> >>How are they for those of us who already wear glasses?

> >>-don

> Does it slow down fps in the games?
> And how long can u wear them b4 u get headaches etc.?
> And how much and where can u get them in the UK?

> --
> Vince Fisher

Mark Smi

Anybody using the EyeScream 3D Glasses

by Mark Smi » Fri, 12 Feb 1999 04:00:00



I can't find any support for this product other than Metabyte's site.  

One thing I did do under the HOTKEY config is setup the separation hotkeys so I
can hit CTRL-A and CTRL-Z to increase or decrease vertical separation until I
get the desired effects.  I had to do this on Half-Life to get rid of some
"ghosting" problems.  The GPL Stereo.cfg file worked right out of the zip file
even though the readme says it was for the Demo only.

Ken Moran

Anybody using the EyeScream 3D Glasses

by Ken Moran » Fri, 12 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Since you mentioned it, I emailed Metabyte about the ghosting in Janes
WW2 Fighters.  They recommended I turn up the gamma (in the game). I was
skeptical but it DID improve the ghosting.

And yeah, the hot keys have come in handy for me with Direct3D games.  I
set up hot keys for RE2Flex toggle, Stereo toggle, and Reset.  At least
on my system, D3D is flakey so I have to give it a "shot in the arm" by
using the keys to "wake it up" so that it synchs right.

Hey, if you find any Docs on the config files maybe you can post a
notice in this newsgroup - I'll do the same. I think these glasses are
becoming real popular all of a sudden so it shouldn't be "off topic".




> >Yup, I agree, the proper stereo.cfg file must be used.  You got my
> >curiosity though - I'll give Monaco a try.

> >Have you tried editing the file? I found the ZPD value can range from
> >2000 to 40000 in different config files.  By putting in some extreme
> >numbers you get some interesting results.

> >I emailed Metabyte, asking for some better documentation on the config
> >files and the answer I got was a polite "sorry, we can't provide that
> >info...."

> >Do you know any FAQs on the web that might provide some insight into
> >editing these files?

> I can't find any support for this product other than Metabyte's site.

> One thing I did do under the HOTKEY config is setup the separation hotkeys so I
> can hit CTRL-A and CTRL-Z to increase or decrease vertical separation until I
> get the desired effects.  I had to do this on Half-Life to get rid of some
> "ghosting" problems.  The GPL Stereo.cfg file worked right out of the zip file
> even though the readme says it was for the Demo only.

Ronald Stoeh

Anybody using the EyeScream 3D Glasses

by Ronald Stoeh » Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:00:00


snip

> I can't find any support for this product other than Metabyte's site.

> One thing I did do under the HOTKEY config is setup the separation hotkeys so I
> can hit CTRL-A and CTRL-Z to increase or decrease vertical separation until I
> get the desired effects.  I had to do this on Half-Life to get rid of some
> "ghosting" problems.  The GPL Stereo.cfg file worked right out of the zip file
> even though the readme says it was for the Demo only.

In GPL part of the***pit is transparent on my system. Do you have
that, too?

Strange thing is, on Metabyte's site I read something about Stereo.cfg
files
are not needed anymore, but still the drivers ask for them...?

l8er
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Mark Smi

Anybody using the EyeScream 3D Glasses

by Mark Smi » Tue, 16 Feb 1999 04:00:00

I have transparent***pit and tire sidewalls the first time into the game.  The
quick fix is to return to the pits and back to the***pit view and the areas
will become solid black.

There is something screwy with the initial load and the black being seen as
transparent.  Simply resetting the 3D mode will fix it and returning to the pit
screen is the easiest way to reset the 3D.


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