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cleaning pots with white spirit?

Tim Vanhe

cleaning pots with white spirit?

by Tim Vanhe » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Well, You are right, I did it and I regret it. It spiked before and it
spiked like hell after it. But I used ICI Circuit Clean now and it works
like a charm.(for now) Let's hope it stays good. The label says: Contains
'Arklone' A-M solvent. Based on 112, 122 Trichlorotrifluoethane (my dog is
named that way too) with additives to help remove active fluxes from printed
circuit boards. This product can also be used effectively to clean
electronic and precision engineering components and most plastic materials
and mouldings.
Dries quickly without residue, good electrical properties.
Sounds good, works good (for now)



> Don't do it Tim... you'll regret it. Petroleum based cleaning agents are
to
> be avoided like the plague.

> Ideally you should use iso-propanol ***. Available from CF as
> "IsoClene", for example. Another option is Kontakt60 from Kontakt Chemie
> (dunno the active ingredient in that one). Acetone, ether or pure ***
> might do the trick as well.

> Don't open up the pots... instead "drown" them in the cleaning liquid,
> actuate them and "rinse" them.

> Jan.
> =---


> > Does anyone know if it's a good idea to clean my dirty pot with white
> spirit
> > or something similar. I know WD40 destroys it, but I don't know about
> white
> > spirit.

Don Hancock (

cleaning pots with white spirit?

by Don Hancock ( » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00


>'Arklone' A-M solvent. Based on 112, 122 Trichlorotrifluoethane (my dog is

    I've NEVER seen a better electronic cleaner than trichloroflouroethane.
We used it a LOT in the Navy.  Problem was, it's flash point was 65oF!  It's
GREAT stuff, though.  didn't know they still made it!

Gunner

Kevin Gavit

cleaning pots with white spirit?

by Kevin Gavit » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00


WD40 won't destroy your pots. It is used in many electrical fields as a
water absorbant, cleaner and lubricator. That said, it will increase the
resistivity of your pots.

The hot ticket? Go to a hobby store that deals in electric RC cars. Not
Radio Shack. A store that handles top end racing machines like those from
Associated and Trinity. Get a can of motor cleaner, make sure it's safe for
plastics though. Much cheaper than Radio Shack tuner spray and does a great
job.

Now, here's the hot ticket that I've never heard anyone else here on r.a.s.
give. Get a bottle of what are called "comm drops." This is a *conducting*
lubricant used by RC racers to get top power out of their motors. I keeps
air off the conductive surfaces, making them stay clean longer, fills gaps
between the contacts to give a better conducting surface, and lubricates,
reducing mechanical wear of the contacts. It'll quadruple the physical life
of your pots.

One drop in each pot'll do the trick.

Mike Barlo

cleaning pots with white spirit?

by Mike Barlo » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00

    At Crosman Airguns we used to use it too.  We have a SWE 2000..  this
machine would separate water and oil by boiling the water out.  Then we
could get rid of our waste oil easier and cheaper.  In any case, once in a
while we would get a bit of triclor.. mixed in with the mop water.  It had a
wild reaction when we used Sulfuric acid to pH neutralize the water/oil/soap
before it went in to the SWE.  some times it get bad enough that that part
of the building was evacuated.

    I could go on with the fire stories with the SWE but that's getting a
bit off topic<g>  btw: triclouroetholene is still made in large quantities
and easily available.. It's just hidden with the rest of the hazardous
material you never see.



>>'Arklone' A-M solvent. Based on 112, 122 Trichlorotrifluoethane (my dog is

>    I've NEVER seen a better electronic cleaner than trichloroflouroethane.
>We used it a LOT in the Navy.  Problem was, it's flash point was 65oF!
It's
>GREAT stuff, though.  didn't know they still made it!

>Gunner

GTX_SlotCa

cleaning pots with white spirit?

by GTX_SlotCa » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Yup, $1.99 for 4 oz. Let's see, used once a month in 3 pots that should last
about twenty years.

Sorry JM, I just couldn't resist ;-)

Slot

Jan Verschuere

cleaning pots with white spirit?

by Jan Verschuere » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Hate to say it, but: "Told you so!!" (did I mention I do most of my work for
an electronics store ;-))

Seriously, what you ended up using sounds good, I'd never heard of it, but
it sounds real good. Where did you buy / order it?

Jan.
=---

> Well, You are right, I did it and I regret it. It spiked before and it
> spiked like hell after it. But I used ICI Circuit Clean now and it works
> like a charm.(for now) Let's hope it stays good. The label says: Contains
> 'Arklone' A-M solvent. Based on 112, 122 Trichlorotrifluoethane (my dog is
> named that way too) with additives to help remove active fluxes from
printed
> circuit boards. This product can also be used effectively to clean
> electronic and precision engineering components and most plastic materials
> and mouldings.
> Dries quickly without residue, good electrical properties.
> Sounds good, works good (for now)


> <Snip>

Haines

cleaning pots with white spirit?

by Haines » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00

The following is from the Thrustmaster website.

"You can easily clean the potentiometer. The best cleaning solution would be a
graphite base non-oil lubrifiant, but you can use regular WD40."

I had a pot that was spiking about 2 months ago. I gave it a shot of WD40 and
it has been working properly ever since. I use it every night. no problems.

GTX_SlotCa

cleaning pots with white spirit?

by GTX_SlotCa » Tue, 04 Apr 2000 04:00:00


We compared a couple brands sold at a local track. They were identical
ingredients to LPS Labs cleaner (and probably several others), but twice the
price. The chemicals used in R/C and slot car motors are just something else
repackaged. The LPS product is sold at auto parts stores.

Com drops do clean the surface. Using them on a new motor seats the brushes
faster, but that's because they wear the surface faster. They give a motor
more power when applied, but only for a very short period before they wear
off, usually within a couple hundred feet. Motors I've run extensively with
com drops usually last about 1/2 as long as motors run without them. They
put tremendous wear on the commutator. Generally we used them on $10 to $15
motors, but not on $150 motors.

Anyway, if you use them on pots, just be careful and beware, and don't use
them often.

Slot

Rick

cleaning pots with white spirit?

by Rick » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

WD-40 is a mechanical miracle in a can. It's been around a long time solving
tough jobs for consumers and industry.  The company could only stand to lose
it's reputation by *** the product under false pretenses.

Does WD-40 clean just because the company says it does? Of course not.  But
I no longer possess the credibility to make a case here on USENET.  I _had_
to utilize a 3rd party URL.

Since that wasn't good enough, then I invite you to a short home-schooling
session.

Take a black permanent marker ("magic marker") and draw a line on a
powdercoated finish, such as your washing machine or icebox.  Let it dry,
then try to remove it using a 'real' cleaner such as Formula 409 or some
other non-abrasive.

It's no wonder they call 'em "permanent markers", eh?

Now, spray on some forty and watch that grafitti disappear.  Amazing stuff.

You can't say a substance isn't a cleaner because it's also a lubricant.
Liquid soap comes to mind.

Rick


>I'm surprised that someone with Rick's. . . er, shall we say,
sophistication
>towards received truth would take corporate sales drivel as evidence of
said
>truth.

>--DK

David Kar

cleaning pots with white spirit?

by David Kar » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

LOL!  You're just saying that because you still have cases of it down in the
bunker!

--DK


[snip]

Tim Vanhe

cleaning pots with white spirit?

by Tim Vanhe » Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I found it in a closet at home. It's looks like it's been there for a long
time. I wouldn't say the label is GPL style but it looks like it's about ten
years old.
I can't find anything about it at  http://www.ici.com/ but my dad's a sales
manager for a company that does chemicals. I'm gonna ask him if you can
still buy that stuff somewhere. He might know more.
In the mean time I did a search for Arklone on the net. It seems that
Arklone contains CFC's (CFK's in't vlaams) so it is banned because it
damages the ozonelayer.
Sorry guys, it look like it's the best solution but it ain't available
anymore.



> Hate to say it, but: "Told you so!!" (did I mention I do most of my work
for
> an electronics store ;-))

> Seriously, what you ended up using sounds good, I'd never heard of it, but
> it sounds real good. Where did you buy / order it?

> Jan.
> =---


> > Well, You are right, I did it and I regret it. It spiked before and it
> > spiked like hell after it. But I used ICI Circuit Clean now and it works
> > like a charm.(for now) Let's hope it stays good. The label says:
Contains
> > 'Arklone' A-M solvent. Based on 112, 122 Trichlorotrifluoethane (my dog
is
> > named that way too) with additives to help remove active fluxes from
> printed
> > circuit boards. This product can also be used effectively to clean
> > electronic and precision engineering components and most plastic
materials
> > and mouldings.
> > Dries quickly without residue, good electrical properties.
> > Sounds good, works good (for now)


> > <Snip>


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