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iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

Andrew MacPhers

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Andrew MacPhers » Wed, 13 May 2009 14:17:00


> If you like Daytona you will really like Talledega.

I'm sure I will. But I certainly don't enjoy Lowes! I thought it was a pretty big
track .It turns out that at 175mph it's actually quite small and my truck prefers
to go in a straight line. :-> The 'basic' setup at Daytona was very stable and easy
to drive. The basic setup at Lowes is scary!

Andrew McP

Niles Ander

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Niles Ander » Wed, 13 May 2009 21:49:23

Andrew, you just let this guy get away with pulling your chain. What he
did, was used a sales technique called "fear, uncertainty and doubt." He
made you defensive. You are second guessing yourself. It is him who has
the big ego for saying it that way he did. You don't need to explain
sh*t to him about that.

He must be an a-hole for saying that. Or worse, a salesman.



>> Writing in the third-person, that is very odd.  Your ego must be
>> big.

> I have to compensate for the small *** somehow!

> I was going to say that I'm actually a pretty humble human being, both in reality
> and on the track (not that I have any other choice but to be humble the way I
> drive!) But firstly, nobody can describe themselves as humble. It's a clear
> contradiction. And secondly, I must have *some* ego if I keep trying to make my
> posts entertaining... after a fashion.

> <shrug> I find it a useful way to get my points over. It's just the way my brain
> works! And if some find the style gets in the way of the message, then... well, my
> loss I guess.

> Andrew McP

Ed Medli

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Ed Medli » Wed, 13 May 2009 23:21:03



>> If you like Daytona you will really like Talledega.

> I'm sure I will. But I certainly don't enjoy Lowes! I thought it was a
> pretty big
> track .It turns out that at 175mph it's actually quite small and my truck
> prefers
> to go in a straight line. :-> The 'basic' setup at Daytona was very stable
> and easy
> to drive. The basic setup at Lowes is scary!

> Andrew McP

The added HP to the truck makes that dive into turn one very interesting.
.......:-). Try one of the setups from the forum. There are some very fast
Brits in the truck too, maybe there are some good ones in your club forum
for Lowes. Lift just a bit before entry just enough to settle the truck and
get right back on the trottle.......a bit of practice and you will get right
up there. I just got my "A" license on ovals and love the trucks, but hate
the SR hit if something happens. I enjoy the trucks much more than the COT
or Nationwide car.

Ed M.

Andrew MacPhers

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Andrew MacPhers » Thu, 14 May 2009 18:08:00


> Andrew, you just let this guy get away with pulling your chain.

Oh no... now I feel inadequate as well as egotistical! ;-)

Andrew McP

Andrew MacPhers

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Andrew MacPhers » Thu, 14 May 2009 19:49:00


> Lift just a bit before entry just enough to settle the truck and
> get right back on the trottle.......a bit of practice and you will
> get right up there.

A setup from the forums helped quite a bit. What helped even more was realising
where the engine is in the truck. Moving the brake bias % up instead of down made
it a lot safer for me. Rookie error. :-)

I did quite a few laps this morning in practice, while listening to some guys
exchanging advice. But even though I feel safer on the track now I can't imagine
ever being comfortable enough to risk racing. One small mistake on exiting a corner
and I'm an unguided missile at 150+mph. While it's impressive feeling the weight of
the truck moving around via the force feedback, it's as unnerving as hell! And it's
certainly helping me understand why there's been so much talk about wrecks in truck
races.

Andrew McP

jeffarei

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by jeffarei » Thu, 14 May 2009 21:35:02

So far I haven't been tempted to even do the free month of testing.

Fortunately for me the physics of the racing games isn't that important
and I like both sim oriented and arcade type racing games, although
the currrent NFS Undercover went a bit over the top with cars that
drive more like swoop racers with what appears to be like pulling
10 g's in turns, especially when using it's magic nitrous that
also increases downforce.

So I can get a fix from the ISI games, a run with GPL, NR2003,
or games like RD3 or games like NFS. Personally I'm wanting to see
how sim-oriented NFS Shift will be.

Tony

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Tony » Fri, 15 May 2009 02:58:45


> I did quite a few laps this morning in practice, while listening to some guys
> exchanging advice. But even though I feel safer on the track now I can't imagine
> ever being comfortable enough to risk racing.

Just let the egotistical Andrew drive :)
Andrew MacPhers

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Andrew MacPhers » Fri, 15 May 2009 05:41:00


> So far I haven't been tempted to even do the free month of testing.

I understand, but you know I'm both a fan and a critic of iRacing, and I do think
it's hard to criticise something properly until you've tried it (though this does
not extend to ***, genocide, or voting Republican).

If you -- or anyone else -- fancies an extended trial, they sent out an email today:
"Sign up before 6/15/2009 and you ll get a 3-month membership for only $25 that s
a 50% savings!" with the following promotion code for a 3 month for $25 deal...

PR-3MONTHOFFER-MAY2009

That should work for anyone who's not currently signed up. The SRF at Lime Rock is
probably worth it... great combination this week. And you only have to drive the
Solstice for long enough to get your SR up to 3, which doesn't take very long if
you're patient and treat it like medicine: a necessary evil. :-)

This must have been a fairly successful way of pulling people in recently if
they're repeating it now.

Personally I find it hard to justify signing up for a year in advance (I might get
p*ssed off and not use half of it!) but a steady dripfeed of offers like this would
keep me there (it helps soften the blow of being stung for content on a regular
basis).

Still, summer's coming and I suspect they're aware they'll lose quite a lot of
racing to the good weather. iRacing is still nowhere near well populated enough to
sustain a big hit like that IMO.

Andrew McP

Tony

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Tony » Fri, 15 May 2009 06:25:24


> If you -- or anyone else -- fancies an extended trial, they sent out an email today:
> "Sign up before 6/15/2009 and you ll get a 3-month membership for only $25 that s
> a 50% savings!" with the following promotion code for a 3 month for $25 deal...

So much for the referral program :)
Andrew MacPhers

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Andrew MacPhers » Fri, 15 May 2009 14:08:00


> So much for the referral program :)

Have I made a blunder? I hope not.

Andrew McP

Ed Medli

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Ed Medli » Sat, 16 May 2009 02:28:04



>> So much for the referral program :)

> Have I made a blunder? I hope not.

> Andrew McP

nope, just saw the email myself.

Ed

Andrew MacPhers

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 16 May 2009 08:36:00


> nope, just saw the email myself.

I think Tony might have been referring to the, er, referral deal which I think is
still operating. There seems to be an older code people can use, which still works,
to get the same deal *and* give the iRacer referring them some credits.

Personally I'd never want to benefit from anyone else's subscription. That opens
you up -- potentially at least -- to accusations of promoting the sim out of
self-interest. It makes you a pusher rather than an ***. :->

Andrew McP

svensmi..

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by svensmi.. » Sat, 16 May 2009 20:15:11



> > If you -- or anyone else -- fancies an extended trial, they sent out an email today:
> > "Sign up before 6/15/2009 and youll get a 3-month membership for only $25 thats
> > a 50% savings!" with the following promotion code for a 3 month for $25 deal...

> So much for the referral program :)

They sent me the same email. You can't fault them for effort, after
I'd made it abundantly clear that I think their business methods stink.
Ed Medli

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Ed Medli » Sat, 16 May 2009 21:50:23



>> nope, just saw the email myself.

> I think Tony might have been referring to the, er, referral deal which I
> think is
> still operating. There seems to be an older code people can use, which
> still works,
> to get the same deal *and* give the iRacer referring them some credits.

> Personally I'd never want to benefit from anyone else's subscription. That
> opens
> you up -- potentially at least -- to accusations of promoting the sim out
> of
> self-interest. It makes you a pusher rather than an ***. :->

> Andrew McP

I entirely agree. I happen to enjoy iRacing myself. I am just finishing up
my first year and have all the content except Darlington which I will
probably get soon. I am at "A" class in ovals and "C" on the road courses
and plan on renewing for another year. There are places for improvement and
all is not perfect with iRacing. Private leagues will be implemented soon
and that will make a number of folks happy. I don't try and push iRacing on
anyone since it is IMO a niche simulation that really is not going to please
everyone. I really enjoy the Silverado more than the other oval cars and am
getting back the road racing bug a bit with the Spec Ford. I have my fun
with it and use the Mazda for my advancement since it is my class car at
"C". Drop into the General Discussion area of the chat room sometime and BS
with us. ........ There are usually folks in there from 9-10am US EST on. We
talk about anything iRacing or not.....:-) You will find real racers in
there from 12yr old Legends jockeys to 60yr old wingnut simmers like
myself....:-)

Ed

Tony

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Tony » Sun, 17 May 2009 02:57:32


> I think Tony might have been referring to the, er, referral deal which I think is
> still operating. There seems to be an older code people can use, which still works,
> to get the same deal *and* give the iRacer referring them some credits.

The referral program contest is to win a real Skip Barber drive and
closes the end of May. I can't see it being a big deal but I just
imagined people going for the prize trying to persuade people to join
and being told they had already found a promotion code by doing a google
search :)

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