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iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

Andrew MacPhers

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Andrew MacPhers » Fri, 08 May 2009 22:00:00

Regular viewers will be familiar with the schizoid adventures of Andrew McP in
iRacing-land. You will be sick and tired or reading about his whiney, in-out,
in-out (shake it all about the track) trips to the virtual world where nothing is
free except the speech in the forums... well, sort of. It's free if you've paid to
view them.

Is that free?

In the background I am downloading $90's worth of additional content. The man who
prides himself on doing iRacing on a budget ($20 + $20 + $54-ish + $25 + $90 now =
sh*tloads!) and avoiding the hypnotic, marketing-led stream of iTemptations, has
iCracked.

I could say it's because the Spec Ford Racer has inspired to to feel more at home
there. That wouldn't be a total lie... it's a great car and the racing I've had so
far in it has been exciting and closer than in the Skip Barber, with much bigger
fields than I'm used to.

And ok, it was just noticing that today's '24 heures du fun' race is the SRF at
Road Atlanta which led me to look at buying Road Atlanta again... and of course if
you buy 6 items you get 20% off. And I did want to buy the Mazda just in case I
wanted to shift up to Class B later, and I needed Sebring for the Skip Barber
series, and...

Three little words... slipperly effing slope! The road to Hell is paved with good
intentions, and I *so* intended to just sit back and enjoy the extra dimension the
SRF added to my iExperience.

I'm ashamed of myself! I had buyer's remorse even before I hit the buy button. In
fact part of the reason I actually did it was to punish my irrational self for
constantly *thinking* about buying more content.

But the worst is yet to come. In the background as I type there is a pickup truck

I could defend myself by saying that I have the SR to race up from D where I am now
on ovals. I don't race many ovals, but N2003 is still on my HD and I do enjoy the
whole 'pack racing' thing sometimes. I skipped D class content because they're
nearly all short circuits, and the 'all turn and no burn' format doesn't appeal.
That leaves me with no choice, if I want to try life on bigger ovals, but to buy
the iVan!

Oh well, it's done now.... though whether I'll be too ashamed to take it out on the
track is a different matter. As a pickup truck doubter there is something more than
a *little* hypocritical about it.

Mind you, I'll probably only get to race it once. One or two spins, or get mixed up
in a crash (they're apparently compulsory in the iVan), and my SR will plummet,
sending me back to the Rookie Legends to build it up again.

Pathetic, isn't it? I mean, I don't even want to race 50 lap races! Knew I
should've gone to bed instead of having a look to see if there was anyone racing.

Anyway, now the download's finished. I'm going to go visit my credit card site and
find out how many British sub-prime-pounds my $90 cost. Then I'm going to sob
myself to sleep.

Well, after a few laps at Road Atlanta in the SRF. :->

This is Andrew McP, your embedded reporter in iRac, signing off. May Gawd have
mercy on my soul! Or preferably my tyres. I need grip more than I need eternal life.

Byron Forbe

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Byron Forbe » Fri, 08 May 2009 23:10:13

    Well there must be something good about iRacing to be hated (apparently)
by more than a few but some still pay. I guess the guts must be good - and
big fields are always fun particularly in a controlled environment.

    My take in iRacing so far (I have little enthusiasm for sim racing atm
anyway) is that I don't like the idea of paying for mm perfect tracks - all
"sim tracks" are mm perfect anyway - they are what they are. It seems
simmers are used to subsidize the "training tool" - I don't care about the
training aspect at all! Also, by the sounds of things, simmers are pretty
limited and denied what many have become accustomed too - and I get the
impression that much of the reason is the "training tool" mentality as well.

    The lack of portability of the software (run only on iRacing servers)
seems to be a huge obstacle, particularly since you can't run your own
leagues - I don't want to be compromised by this rubbish - cater for
"simmers"
or..................................................................


> Regular viewers will be familiar with the schizoid adventures of Andrew
> McP in
> iRacing-land. You will be sick and tired or reading about his whiney,
> in-out,
> in-out (shake it all about the track) trips to the virtual world where
> nothing is
> free except the speech in the forums... well, sort of. It's free if you've
> paid to
> view them.

> Is that free?

> In the background I am downloading $90's worth of additional content. The
> man who
> prides himself on doing iRacing on a budget ($20 + $20 + $54-ish + $25 +
> $90 now =
> sh*tloads!) and avoiding the hypnotic, marketing-led stream of
> iTemptations, has
> iCracked.

> I could say it's because the Spec Ford Racer has inspired to to feel more
> at home
> there. That wouldn't be a total lie... it's a great car and the racing
> I've had so
> far in it has been exciting and closer than in the Skip Barber, with much
> bigger
> fields than I'm used to.

> And ok, it was just noticing that today's '24 heures du fun' race is the
> SRF at
> Road Atlanta which led me to look at buying Road Atlanta again... and of
> course if
> you buy 6 items you get 20% off. And I did want to buy the Mazda just in
> case I
> wanted to shift up to Class B later, and I needed Sebring for the Skip
> Barber
> series, and...

> Three little words... slipperly effing slope! The road to Hell is paved
> with good
> intentions, and I *so* intended to just sit back and enjoy the extra
> dimension the
> SRF added to my iExperience.

> I'm ashamed of myself! I had buyer's remorse even before I hit the buy
> button. In
> fact part of the reason I actually did it was to punish my irrational self
> for
> constantly *thinking* about buying more content.

> But the worst is yet to come. In the background as I type there is a
> pickup truck

> I could defend myself by saying that I have the SR to race up from D where
> I am now
> on ovals. I don't race many ovals, but N2003 is still on my HD and I do
> enjoy the
> whole 'pack racing' thing sometimes. I skipped D class content because
> they're
> nearly all short circuits, and the 'all turn and no burn' format doesn't
> appeal.
> That leaves me with no choice, if I want to try life on bigger ovals, but
> to buy
> the iVan!

> Oh well, it's done now.... though whether I'll be too ashamed to take it
> out on the
> track is a different matter. As a pickup truck doubter there is something
> more than
> a *little* hypocritical about it.

> Mind you, I'll probably only get to race it once. One or two spins, or get
> mixed up
> in a crash (they're apparently compulsory in the iVan), and my SR will
> plummet,
> sending me back to the Rookie Legends to build it up again.

> Pathetic, isn't it? I mean, I don't even want to race 50 lap races! Knew I
> should've gone to bed instead of having a look to see if there was anyone
> racing.

> Anyway, now the download's finished. I'm going to go visit my credit card
> site and
> find out how many British sub-prime-pounds my $90 cost. Then I'm going to
> sob
> myself to sleep.

> Well, after a few laps at Road Atlanta in the SRF. :->

> This is Andrew McP, your embedded reporter in iRac, signing off. May Gawd
> have
> mercy on my soul! Or preferably my tyres. I need grip more than I need
> eternal life.

Andrew MacPhers

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 09 May 2009 08:25:00


> Well there must be something good about iRacing to be hated
> (apparently) by more than a few but some still pay. I guess the
> guts must be good

The marketing machine at the heart of iRacing is very powerful. They have created
the best and most satisfying (IMO) simulation experience on the planet, and
packaged it in such a way as to inspire and frustrate you in equal measure. It's
like having the most beautiful girl in the world as your girlfriend, but you have
to pay her to get past first base.

I guess that makes me a John, not an Andrew. :-)

I suppose part of my semi-***ion is the fact that I am genuinely grateful that
this code exists. The West brothers offered a sim Holy Grail at one stage, but
sadly it went AWOL. GPL2 was always a dream I thought would never happen. But it
has happened, it's just they had to sell their soul to a Hedge Fund owner to make
it happen. A mixed blessing, perhaps, but would I prefer it if Dave Kaemmer etc
were sat at home with their feet up, watching daytime TV instead?

No, I wouldn't.

iRacing, for all its sins, continues to annoy and inspire me. But there are only
two choices... play the iGame or go back to sims where I no longer feel deeply
attached to the on-track experience, and have no reason to turn on the games
machine. I wasn't part of any particular sim community (and hadn't been for a long
time), and I rarely raced (never online). So I was, I suppose, waiting to be
inspired again... or to give up completely.

In that respect at least, there may be something 'evangelical' about my reluctant
conversion. Or maybe just having handed over money *makes* me drive. And when I
drive (instead of think about driving) I enjoy myself more often than when I just
sit around wishing for a version of iRacing which suited me better.

Anyway, as something of a control freak, the only way I can redeem myself from this
profligate spending will be to *definitely* not resubscribe at the end of June when
my cheap deal runs out. Taking the summer off will hopefully restore some kind of
sanity. :-)

Of course the more you spend inside the service, the more tempting it is not to
write off that 'investment' and continue to subscribe. I look forward to finding
out whether I have any willpower left whatsoever.

Andrew McP

PS I forgot it's pay day today. Mmm... maybe I should buy the Radical and Talladega
now? ;-)

Andrew MacPhers

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 09 May 2009 16:37:00

Well, overnight I came to two conclusions...

1) The money I spent on the Mazda was pretty much wasted. It's both too easy and
too difficult to drive. By that I mean it suffers -- for me at least -- from too
much downforce right up to the point where you push too hard. Then my reaction
times are far too slow to cope. So while the sense of speed is nice (as in all
other 'f1-style' sims), it's not -- so far at least -- the same kind of involving
ride which leaps out at you from the Skip Barber and SRF.

2) I'm moving to Arkansas! :-) The trucks at a big oval like Daytona are an
absolute blast.... though the bumps scare the heck out of me with an approaching
pack catching up fast. There's more disconcerting jiggling than at a lap dancing
convention!

I haven't raced, but the long practice session (where you haven't got to worry
about points or your safety rating) are perfect for me. Half the fun is picking up
a passing pack in the first place. Then it's a case of*** on for your life,
knowing a whole heap of good-natured southern scorn is going to be heaped on you if
you wreck the party!

My heart hasn't pounded so much since I had to quit a Monza GPL race a long time
ago because I couldn't stop my hands shaking! :-) I may never commit to a 50 lap
race (too long for an amateur like me, with too much at stake for those who take it
more seriously, and with the prospect of many long, tedious laps on my own when I
lose the pack), but who needs races when the practice sessions can be such intense
fun?

I will no doubt calm down and get tired of turning left, but I just had an SRF race
and it was such a calm, soothing race in comparison that I nearly fell asleep at
the wheel! The only e***ment I had was getting close to the next car early on,
running one cone too deep into T1 before braking, and having a trip into lawnmower
land. That hardly compares with scraping along the walls at Daytona at 170mph, in a
pack.

Overall the iTruck may not be my preferred drive, but when you're up to speed you
don't really care what it looks like. I may regret spending more money, but I don't
regret the fun I had last night racing and listening to the collection of American
accents chatting on the comms. It was a real experience!

Andrew McP

Remco Moe

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Remco Moe » Sat, 09 May 2009 22:45:13


<snip scary stuff>

Now, stop it! You made me recover my iRacing iPassword,
and login into iRacing again. Luckily I couldn't find the prices
of the cars and tracks, so that was enough for me not to subscribe
again. But it was a close call... I hope I've enough resistance when
they release the Lotus '79 f1 car...

Cheers!

Remco

PlowBoy

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by PlowBoy » Sun, 10 May 2009 04:27:28



>> Well there must be something good about iRacing to be hated
>> (apparently) by more than a few but some still pay. I guess the
>> guts must be good

> The marketing machine at the heart of iRacing is very powerful. They have
> created
> the best and most satisfying (IMO) simulation experience on the planet,
> and
> packaged it in such a way as to inspire and frustrate you in equal
> measure. It's
> like having the most beautiful girl in the world as your girlfriend, but
> you have
> to pay her to get past first base.

 Damn that was funny, Im still cleaning Coffee from the keyboard...  from my
nose.

You and the road-cars are like me and the circle track cars, I like the SK
mods best, then the trucks, then the impala's.  in real life I'm ready to
race the "legends" equivalent, called the mod lites.
(http://www.racesimcentral.net/)
website is blocked but I think you will get an idea.  They're a *** to
drive because they are too short.  lol.

PlowBoy

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by PlowBoy » Sun, 10 May 2009 04:32:04

I thought they said/ sounded like, we're gonna get some Volkswagon TDI cars
soon.  that would be fun!




> <snip scary stuff>

> Now, stop it! You made me recover my iRacing iPassword,
> and login into iRacing again. Luckily I couldn't find the prices
> of the cars and tracks, so that was enough for me not to subscribe
> again. But it was a close call... I hope I've enough resistance when
> they release the Lotus '79 f1 car...

> Cheers!

> Remco

Andrew MacPhers

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Andrew MacPhers » Sun, 10 May 2009 21:27:00


> I hope I've enough resistance when
> they release the Lotus '79 f1 car...

Well, all I can say is that if I continue to have this much heart-pounding fun in
the truck, I may be forced to swallow my pride and pay up for a year to get the
cost-effective rate. This morning I accidentally ended up at Daytona again instead
of racing in the '24 heures du fun' sessions which inspired me to spend some money
in the first place.

I just wish iRacing would drop the cost of the content significantly, then I could
be so much more of an advocate for the service. The monthly payments aren't the
problem, it's the way you need to keep handing over cash as you climb the classes
towards cars you might want to drive... and you have to hand over the cash before
you can find out whether you'll enjoy that series/vehicle or not. That's why I was
*so* determined not to start playing the content game.

Oh well, I've swapped my principles for some fun in practice sessions. I guess
that's a fair swap. :-) And the trucks probably ought to satisfy my oval itch
indefinitely.... so I only need another five tracks or so to 'complete' my oval
collection. That's er... another $100 or so <choke>.

But I doubt I'll be buying more tracks for the Mazda series, and the SRF & Skip
should keep me satisfied for roads racing indefinitely. So maybe, just maybe, I'm
heading for a relatively cost-effective way of having access to all types of
iRacing.

Famous last words. :-)

Andrew McP

Tony

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Tony » Sun, 10 May 2009 22:23:49


> Well, all I can say is that if I continue to have this much heart-pounding fun in
> the truck, I may be forced to swallow my pride and pay up for a year to get the
> cost-effective rate. This morning I accidentally ended up at Daytona again instead
> of racing in the '24 heures du fun' sessions which inspired me to spend some money
> in the first place.

I am really enjoying ruuning the supersepeedways in the trucks in
practice and getting in a good pack. Like you say it is probably the
most intense racing experience.

I haven't raced much - it isn't so intense running at pace lap speed in
yellows - I enjoy the thrill of racing door to door bumper to bumper but
the strategy side leaves me cold.

  > Oh well, I've swapped my principles for some fun in practice
sessions. I guess

Though the oval purists will hate me for saying it I would support a
superspeedway series for pack racing fans. It is great practice to get
drivers up to speed to run in ovals and learn the other factors like
managing tyres and learning when to pit and what tyres to take once they
are used to running together and holding lines etc.

At the shorter tracks the trucks handle more like er... trucks!

It might be worth trying one track first before shelling out on the full
season's worth as your experience is based on a superspeedway.

Cheers
Tony

Alan_Bernard

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Alan_Bernard » Mon, 11 May 2009 02:34:28

Writing in the third-person, that is very odd.  Your ego must be big.

Alan

Ronald Stoeh

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Ronald Stoeh » Mon, 11 May 2009 02:37:54


> Writing in the third-person, that is very odd.  Your ego must be big.

Get a humour implant, u silly person...

ronny

Andrew MacPhers

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Andrew MacPhers » Mon, 11 May 2009 14:55:00


> Writing in the third-person, that is very odd.  Your ego must be
> big.

I have to compensate for the small *** somehow!

I was going to say that I'm actually a pretty humble human being, both in reality
and on the track (not that I have any other choice but to be humble the way I
drive!) But firstly, nobody can describe themselves as humble. It's a clear
contradiction. And secondly, I must have *some* ego if I keep trying to make my
posts entertaining... after a fashion.

<shrug> I find it a useful way to get my points over. It's just the way my brain
works! And if some find the style gets in the way of the message, then... well, my
loss I guess.

Andrew McP

Andrew MacPhers

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Andrew MacPhers » Mon, 11 May 2009 16:16:00


> I haven't raced much - it isn't so intense running at pace lap
> speed in yellows - I enjoy the thrill of racing door to door bumper
> to bumper but the strategy side leaves me cold.

Yes, I think it's unlikely I'll enter any races... especially now resets are gone
(note for non iRacers:for clases C and above). The stakes are just too high to risk
getting into a pack of people who really care about the result.

Yup, that'd suit me fine.

At this 'freshly converted' stage I plan to just buy a couple of the bigger tracks
in the series. That way there will be plenty of weeks when I'm forced to do
something sensible... like concentrate on the SRF & Skip Barber which I'm supposed
to be so enthusiastic about! :-)

Andrew

David Fisher's Left Testicl

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by David Fisher's Left Testicl » Mon, 11 May 2009 17:02:01


What a complete***you are, Alan.

Ed Medli

iHave sinned! [Episode 23, in which Andrew McP iRents more cr*p]

by Ed Medli » Wed, 13 May 2009 03:38:58



>> Writing in the third-person, that is very odd.  Your ego must be
>> big.

> I have to compensate for the small *** somehow!

> I was going to say that I'm actually a pretty humble human being, both in
> reality
> and on the track (not that I have any other choice but to be humble the
> way I
> drive!) But firstly, nobody can describe themselves as humble. It's a
> clear
> contradiction. And secondly, I must have *some* ego if I keep trying to
> make my
> posts entertaining... after a fashion.

> <shrug> I find it a useful way to get my points over. It's just the way my
> brain
> works! And if some find the style gets in the way of the message, then...
> well, my
> loss I guess.

> Andrew McP

If you like Daytona you will really like Talledega. It is faster, wider and
as smooth as a baby's behind.......:-). The pucker factor is much better
when 3-wide lap after lap...:-)

Ed


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