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by **ymenar** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 04:38:53

> Mole hill! LOL

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by **David G Fishe** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 05:10:02

Um, isn't telemetry something they should have done a long time ago?

David G Fisher

by **Stuart Becktel** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 05:06:28

The problem with that arguement is that people who DO NOT have N4 will have
to spend the $50 (or whatever it is now) for N4, as well as the $30 for the
N2002.
-Stuart Becktell

> I agree to a certain extent. The improvements are few in 2002. N2002
> should be an expansion pack at best. I don't see $50 worth of
> improvements to justify full boat game pricing.

> > Still haven't seen anything a patch to N4 wouldn't do myself. It's
> > better, no doubt, but it's what N4 should have been with in the first
place
> > IMO.

by **John Pancoas** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 06:23:36

Not really :) Anyone who spends $50, even last month, for N4 doesn't know
about eBay :)

-John

> The problem with that arguement is that people who DO NOT have N4 will
have
> to spend the $50 (or whatever it is now) for N4, as well as the $30 for
the
> N2002.
> -Stuart Becktell

> > I agree to a certain extent. The improvements are few in 2002. N2002
> > should be an expansion pack at best. I don't see $50 worth of
> > improvements to justify full boat game pricing.

> > > Still haven't seen anything a patch to N4 wouldn't do myself. It's
> > > better, no doubt, but it's what N4 should have been with in the first
> place
> > > IMO.

by **John Pancoas** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 06:24:24

Not in a stock car sim, no. Still shouldn't be for that matter.

-John

> > - exceeded them selfs that is!

> > N2002 will clearly bring us to the next level in the NASCAR-sim-racing
> saga.
> > There are lots of good things in this demo but for me one thing sticks
> out
> > above the rest; the telemetry. Finally we have the ability to see
whats
> > *really* going on...

> Um, isn't telemetry something they should have done a long time ago?

> David G Fisher

by **Ian Greenwoo** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 07:02:09

I agree - there is that indefinable something in the physics now - as
someone said it is more like a stockcar than GPL with a stockcar body
(as N4 arguably was) - far easier to slide through corners i feel

Ian

On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:27:06 +0100, "Mario Petrinovic"

> For me there is big inprovement in physics, and I'm sure
>people will soon start to realize that. It is much more
>sophisticated.

by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 07:10:04

I don't get the impression the 2002 is an Addon disc. Looking at the
program, it is a separate install. Not having N4 is not a problem. But
those who have already purchased N4 might not find enough new features to
justify $50. Especially when EA makes a huge leap from F1cs2k to f12001 for
only $30.
dave henrie

> The problem with that arguement is that people who DO NOT have N4 will
have
> to spend the $50 (or whatever it is now) for N4, as well as the $30 for
the
> N2002.
> -Stuart Becktell

> > I agree to a certain extent. The improvements are few in 2002. N2002
> > should be an expansion pack at best. I don't see $50 worth of
> > improvements to justify full boat game pricing.

> > > Still haven't seen anything a patch to N4 wouldn't do myself. It's
> > > better, no doubt, but it's what N4 should have been with in the first
> place
> > > IMO.

by **The Other Larr** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 07:04:17

Huh?

-Larry

> The problem with that arguement is that people who DO NOT have N4 will
have
> to spend the $50 (or whatever it is now) for N4, as well as the $30 for
the
> N2002.
> -Stuart Becktell

> > I agree to a certain extent. The improvements are few in 2002. N2002
> > should be an expansion pack at best. I don't see $50 worth of
> > improvements to justify full boat game pricing.

> > > Still haven't seen anything a patch to N4 wouldn't do myself. It's
> > > better, no doubt, but it's what N4 should have been with in the first
> place
> > > IMO.

by **Goy Larse** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 07:44:00

> I agree to a certain extent. The improvements are few in 2002. N2002
> should be an expansion pack at best. I don't see $50 worth of
> improvements to justify full boat game pricing.

....even Microsoft offers people who have already purchased their
software to upgrade to latest version at a discount :-)

Beers and cheers
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by **Ed Solhei** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 07:57:57

"Jacob Butner" said:

I have no idea. Prior to Nascar 4, the last sim I installed was GPL!

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by **Y.Minam** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 07:49:59

Is it really end up $50?

We must spend more bucks for CPU, graphics card, or somesoing for take same
performans as N4.

Y.Minami

> The problem with that arguement is that people who DO NOT have N4 will
have
> to spend the $50 (or whatever it is now) for N4, as well as the $30 for
the
> N2002.
> -Stuart Becktell

> > I agree to a certain extent. The improvements are few in 2002. N2002
> > should be an expansion pack at best. I don't see $50 worth of
> > improvements to justify full boat game pricing.

> > > Still haven't seen anything a patch to N4 wouldn't do myself. It's
> > > better, no doubt, but it's what N4 should have been with in the first
> place
> > > IMO.

by **Goy Larse** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 07:50:20

> "Jacob Butner" said:
> > Wasn't that in Nascar Heat ? :)

> > Mole hill! LOL

> I have no idea. Prior to Nascar 4, the last sim I installed was GPL!

In that case you're missing out on a lot of fun Ed, the DTM mod for
NHeat is pretty damn good

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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http://www.teammirage.com

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--Groucho Marx--

by **JJ Srickli** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 10:06:56

DTM's good but I'm confused as why they ram into the back of ya like a
stockcar. :)

> > "Jacob Butner" said:
> > > Wasn't that in Nascar Heat ? :)

> > > Mole hill! LOL

> > I have no idea. Prior to Nascar 4, the last sim I installed was GPL!

> In that case you're missing out on a lot of fun Ed, the DTM mod for
> NHeat is pretty damn good

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> http://www.theuspits.com
> http://www.teammirage.com

> "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke"
> --Groucho Marx--

by **Stuart Becktel** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 11:54:00

What?

> Huh?

> -Larry

> > The problem with that arguement is that people who DO NOT have N4 will
> have
> > to spend the $50 (or whatever it is now) for N4, as well as the $30 for
> the
> > N2002.
> > -Stuart Becktell

> > > I agree to a certain extent. The improvements are few in 2002. N2002
> > > should be an expansion pack at best. I don't see $50 worth of
> > > improvements to justify full boat game pricing.

> > > > Still haven't seen anything a patch to N4 wouldn't do myself.
It's
> > > > better, no doubt, but it's what N4 should have been with in the
first
> > place
> > > > IMO.

by **Ed Solhei** » Tue, 01 Jan 2002 19:25:55

How's the online racing?

--
ed_

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