rec.autos.simulators

by **Bob Leo** » Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:17:16

I have been experiencing a problem running the Rendition version of
CART Racing (ICR2) under Win98. I can get the program to run in
MS-DOS mode just fine but for some reason it won't play in native
Win98. The game either generates an invalid page fault or will
display a black screen.

Has anyone managed to get the game to run directly from Win98? Any
suggestions would be appreciated. I am using a Creative Labs V1000
Rendition card under Win98 (not the SE version). The card's driver
version date is 8-5-1998 and was obtained from the Creative Labs
website.

Bob

by **Dave Henri** » Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:23:31

The Rendition version is a Dos only program It will NOT run in Windows
and it will not get any 3d acceleration unless you can get it to run in dos
with a Rendition vid card which you have but running in windows will not
work. There is a win95 patch and a complete win95 version on the CART
Racing CD but that is NOT 3d.
dave henrie

by **Bob Leo** » Sat, 19 Jan 2002 21:04:47

> The Rendition version is a Dos only program It will NOT run in Windows
> and it will not get any 3d acceleration unless you can get it to run in dos
> with a Rendition vid card which you have but running in windows will not
> work. There is a win95 patch and a complete win95 version on the CART
> Racing CD but that is NOT 3d.
> dave henrie

It's strange that you say the Rendition version won't work in a DOS
box under win98 because the straight DOS version of CART Racing works
perfectly well in a DOS box under Win98. If the DOS version works why
shouldn't the DOS Rendition version also work?

Any ideas?

Bob

by **Dave Henri** » Sat, 19 Jan 2002 23:17:11

Because of the arcane way the Rendition 3d api operates. You just won't
have any luck getting it going in a windows enviroment. I don't know the
details, I just know from personal experience and the tons of posts from
long ago. Here is something that might give you insight....
Try and take a screenshot while using the Rendition3d version. I think
you'll be just as frustrated. Can't be done. (at least as far as I know)
dave henrie

by **McF** » Sat, 19 Jan 2002 23:39:27

I think there's no need of 3D acceleration.
I'm playing with the Win (converted to) version of ICR2 at about 170-280 FPS
without 3D acceleration, all graphics 'ON'.

by **Jeff Vince** » Sun, 20 Jan 2002 00:44:10

It's not so much the acceleration, but the fact that you get 16-bit
colors (vs 8-bit) and anti-aliasing that makes the standard 640x480
resolution look *so* much better.

And all of this with five year old technology. Too bad
anti-aliasing isn't a well-executed feature on most cards today. :(

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

by **Bob Leo** » Sun, 20 Jan 2002 02:55:20

> Because of the arcane way the Rendition 3d api operates. You just won't
> have any luck getting it going in a windows enviroment. I don't know the
> details, I just know from personal experience and the tons of posts from
> long ago. Here is something that might give you insight....
> Try and take a screenshot while using the Rendition3d version. I think
> you'll be just as frustrated. Can't be done. (at least as far as I know)
> dave henrie

This again is strange because I succeeded in getting three
Rendition-only video games enclosed with the card (Creative Labs 3D
Blaster PCI) to run in a DOS box.

If some Rendition DOS games will run in a DOS box why not CART Racing?

Bob

by **Biz** » Sun, 20 Jan 2002 03:41:25

Bob, there are tons of DOS games that will not run in a DOS box on a windows machine. If you have
to ask this question, not to be rude, but then you need to do a little more research and learn a
little bit more. Its just a fact that not all games will run in DOS windows.
--
Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash

> > Because of the arcane way the Rendition 3d api operates. You just won't
> > have any luck getting it going in a windows enviroment. I don't know the
> > details, I just know from personal experience and the tons of posts from
> > long ago. Here is something that might give you insight....
> > Try and take a screenshot while using the Rendition3d version. I think
> > you'll be just as frustrated. Can't be done. (at least as far as I know)
> > dave henrie

> This again is strange because I succeeded in getting three
> Rendition-only video games enclosed with the card (Creative Labs 3D
> Blaster PCI) to run in a DOS box.

> If some Rendition DOS games will run in a DOS box why not CART Racing?

> Bob

by **Dave Henri** » Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:47:44

"Jeff Vincent">
When the 3dfx V5 5500 first came out. I pestered the 3dfx customer
support guys UMERCIFULLY to get ICR2 working with FSAA. After about 2
weeks, they caved and took a look at the dos and windy versions. Came back
asking me if those were pixels on the walls...Answer yes...2d game. (boy
did I feel stooopid...) Ya can't use FSAA when there isn't any polygons to
smooth. However, the Rendition3d did have AA built in...not full screen but
it did a fine job smoothing most of the edges.
dave henrie

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Will ICR2 Rendition version run in native Win98?

Will ICR2 Rendition version run in native Win98?

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