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GPL ENGINE: what else can they do with it

Marty U'Re

GPL ENGINE: what else can they do with it

by Marty U'Re » Tue, 05 Oct 1999 04:00:00


> > I think if you took a vote, a brand spanking new CART sim that looked
> > like Sega's and handled like GPL would be top of the list.

> As Wimpy of Chicago WhiteSux broadcasting fame would say, "Yessss!".

I'd like to add...YES, YES, YES!

Marty

Bruce Kennewel

GPL ENGINE: what else can they do with it

by Bruce Kennewel » Wed, 06 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Perhaps if the "main game" doesn't change then there is little point in
doing this?
The unique feature of GPL is its physics.......and unless the physics
changed to suit the different types of vehicles then there is nothing to be
gained by bastardising the product.

We know how passionate David K was about his product and I am sure that he
would be loathe to "corrupt" it by changing the type of cars but not
altering the physics.


> How about...

> Papy gives us all a poll to take.  It has the different forms of racing.
> The top of the list is what's made first, then down the list respectivly.
> But, The main game will not change, but the cars and tracks will (of
course
> vehicle information like weight etc).  Those will be add-on packs.  So the
> base game for $40-50, and the add-on will be around $20-30.  I'm surprised
> they haven't done anything like this.

> Basically...the add-on will simply add more cars and tracks and upon game
> startup, it will ask you if you want to drive these cars, or those in a
pull
> down list.  There will also be a checkbox asking if you want this screen
to
> come up everytime you start up.  So, you can set it to one if you don't
want
> to have to select it each time, and just go through options to change it.
> Simple?  I think so.
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> > Modern sports cars?  Id rather see old time sports cars.  Something
based
> > around either 63-67 or 71-74.  Those were about the best stretches of
> endurance
> > racing i know of.  The 60s gives you the HUGE factory involvement at
> LeMans and
> > the like.  The 70s would give you the more radical new designs like the
> Porsche
> > "Pig Car" (the 917 i belive).  A Can-Am sim with the same engine would
be
> > cool...especially if they include the Porsche+Audi with those huge 1200+
> bhp.

> > Chris

> > >Modern Sports Cars!
> > >Something like SCGT with the GPL >engine be great.

> > >Tim

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Tim (fusio

GPL ENGINE: what else can they do with it

by Tim (fusio » Wed, 06 Oct 1999 04:00:00


>We know how passionate David K was about his product and I am sure that he
>would be loathe to "corrupt" it by changing the type of cars but not
>altering the physics.

I guess that's the question right there...
Are the physics exclusive and hard coded into the engine, or can the
parameters be changed with the changing of vehicles?

Since you can alter so much on the existing cars to affect handling, I
figured it'd be natural for a more modern car to be installed with
it's own set of handling parameters.  

Thats the nice thing about having a game engine that models the sim
world so completely. Model the universe, and the detail changes will
react dynamically.
I would hope you could install, say, a Porsche 911 Turbo, and make the
dynamics right for a high powered car with lots of *** and a
rearward weight bias.
From there, the game engine would take care of how the vehicle should
act in the GPL universe using it's weight, power, and suspension data.

The last thing I want is a car that looks like a modern sports car,
but still acts like a 67 GP car. :-)

Tim

Dan Belch

GPL ENGINE: what else can they do with it

by Dan Belch » Wed, 06 Oct 1999 04:00:00


>> > I think if you took a vote, a brand spanking new CART sim that looked
>> > like Sega's and handled like GPL would be top of the list.

>> As Wimpy of Chicago WhiteSux broadcasting fame would say, "Yessss!".

>I'd like to add...YES, YES, YES!

>Marty

Bring on CART!  Hell yeah!

Dan Belcher
Team Racing Unlimited
http://members.xoom.com/simcrash1/simcrash

mark jeangerar

GPL ENGINE: what else can they do with it

by mark jeangerar » Wed, 06 Oct 1999 04:00:00

I personally would like a sim where I could build a cars to my specs. Say I
want to try crab eye wings, or barn doors, or vacuum fan. It would take some
pretty good physics and one hell of an interface to those physics but think
of the fun.

"I'm going four inches wider in the rear this race. Aaack! The car won't
turn."

--
Mark Jeangerard
www.soundchaserweb.com
New Mexico USA


> OK

> so GPL engine can't be a commercial success if they
> use it for NASCAR 3,
> THEN what else can be done with it ?

> Every one likes it here , ( but not the market place )
> so how about making an GPL editor and allowing
> people to create skins, mods , tracks etc
> then they could make up their own nascar3( GPL ).

> How about that ??

> that way no financial risk for Microprose and
> everyone's happy

> --
> Best regards


> SINGAPORE

Joel Willstei

GPL ENGINE: what else can they do with it

by Joel Willstei » Wed, 06 Oct 1999 04:00:00


> Perhaps if the "main game" doesn't change then there is little point in
> doing this?
> The unique feature of GPL is its physics.......and unless the physics
> changed to suit the different types of vehicles then there is nothing to
be
> gained by bastardising the product.

> We know how passionate David K was about his product and I am sure that he
> would be loathe to "corrupt" it by changing the type of cars but not
> altering the physics.




Adam,

    Randy Cassidy has stated that with the GPL physics engine,you could plug
in the values for your street car,and it would drive exactly that way in
gpl. So,the physics engine isn't directly tied to the 67' F1 cars,but rather
it could be used for any racing sim that Papyrus chooses ei,CART2.

Joel Willstein

Matthew B. P. Knutse

GPL ENGINE: what else can they do with it

by Matthew B. P. Knutse » Wed, 06 Oct 1999 04:00:00


> I personally would like a sim where I could build a cars to my specs. Say I
> want to try crab eye wings, or barn doors, or vacuum fan. It would take some
> pretty good physics and one hell of an interface to those physics but think
> of the fun.

> "I'm going four inches wider in the rear this race. Aaack! The car won't
> turn."

Ahh! Formula None! Bring it on!!
We'd all be racecar designers; build your own cars from scratch, and post 'em on
the net. We could have certain basic classes....LOL, would that be grand!

Matt

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Olav K. Malm

GPL ENGINE: what else can they do with it

by Olav K. Malm » Wed, 06 Oct 1999 04:00:00




> > Perhaps if the "main game" doesn't change then there is little point in
> > doing this?
> > The unique feature of GPL is its physics.......and unless the physics
> > changed to suit the different types of vehicles then there is nothing to
> be
> > gained by bastardising the product.

> > We know how passionate David K was about his product and I am sure that he
> > would be loathe to "corrupt" it by changing the type of cars but not
> > altering the physics.



> Adam,

>     Randy Cassidy has stated that with the GPL physics engine,you could plug
> in the values for your street car,and it would drive exactly that way in
> gpl. So,the physics engine isn't directly tied to the 67' F1 cars,but rather
> it could be used for any racing sim that Papyrus chooses ei,CART2.

Interesting, but I wonder if they have put in the code to model wings ? If
not (and pure speculation say they didn't) it would complicate the physics
a whole lot.

--
Olav K. Malmin
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Richard G Cleg

GPL ENGINE: what else can they do with it

by Richard G Cleg » Wed, 06 Oct 1999 04:00:00

:     Randy Cassidy has stated that with the GPL physics engine,you could plug
: in the values for your street car,and it would drive exactly that way in
: gpl.

  (Grin) I'm willing to bet you could plug the numbers into the GPL
engine and have a street car which would spin off into the scenery every
few minutes as you slightly misjudged the apex coming out of your driveway.

--
Richard G. Clegg     Only the mind is waving
Dept. of Mathematics (Network Control group) Uni. of York.

www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html

Bruce Kennewel

GPL ENGINE: what else can they do with it

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 07 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Excellent!




> > Perhaps if the "main game" doesn't change then there is little point in
> > doing this?
> > The unique feature of GPL is its physics.......and unless the physics
> > changed to suit the different types of vehicles then there is nothing to
> be
> > gained by bastardising the product.

> > We know how passionate David K was about his product and I am sure that
he
> > would be loathe to "corrupt" it by changing the type of cars but not
> > altering the physics.



> Adam,

>     Randy Cassidy has stated that with the GPL physics engine,you could
plug
> in the values for your street car,and it would drive exactly that way in
> gpl. So,the physics engine isn't directly tied to the 67' F1 cars,but
rather
> it could be used for any racing sim that Papyrus chooses ei,CART2.

> Joel Willstein


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