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RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

btgos

RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

by btgos » Sat, 04 May 2002 00:08:56

Check out this link to NASCAR.com

It shows the entry list for this weeks BGN race at Richmond.

Please note the bottom of the list, and the 7 cars that have entered with 3
digit numbers.

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

So. It's official, 3 digit numbers are NASCAR legal.

Brit
btgoss

Joachim Trens

RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

by Joachim Trens » Sat, 04 May 2002 03:32:10

Thanks for the info Brit.

Achim


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Ed Solhei

RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

by Ed Solhei » Sat, 04 May 2002 02:36:45

Just curious, who said anything about them being illegal?

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MadDAW

RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

by MadDAW » Sat, 04 May 2002 02:41:50

well I'm not sure if he said they were illegal or not but its pretty obvious
who has been throwing a fit over everyone's paint jobs.

MadDAWG

Ed Solhei

RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

by Ed Solhei » Sat, 04 May 2002 01:37:26

Who said they were illegal?

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Eldre

RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

by Eldre » Sat, 04 May 2002 04:10:59



>Check out this link to NASCAR.com

>It shows the entry list for this weeks BGN race at Richmond.

>Please note the bottom of the list, and the 7 cars that have entered with 3
>digit numbers.

>http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>So. It's official, 3 digit numbers are NASCAR legal.

So?  No one(to my knowledge) said that they WEREN'T legal.  However, the person
who has volunteered to compil the entry list and car set doesn't like 3-digit
cars.  Doesn't matter to me either way, but I can respect his opinion.

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RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

by Stuart Becktel » Sat, 04 May 2002 04:27:52

NASCAR didn't allow Darrell Waltrip to run the #300 in '98, so it was
illegal.

btgos

RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

by btgos » Sat, 04 May 2002 04:19:15

I just re-read my original post, and it came off a bit harsh perhaps.
I was just trying to be a bit sarcastic, and of course forgot to include
some html <sarcasm> tags.

Someone had voiced displeasure with the 3 digit numbers, in reference to
them not being "in character" with officially accepted numbers from NASCAR.
And I just thought is was funny to look at that entry list, reminds me of
the entry list in a Sierra Pick-Up race.

But to my knowledge no one has said they are illegal.

I wish we could use letter and numbers on our cars. Then I could run a
famous number for the Boston area. 4Q.

Brit
btgoss




> >Check out this link to NASCAR.com

> >It shows the entry list for this weeks BGN race at Richmond.

> >Please note the bottom of the list, and the 7 cars that have entered with
3
> >digit numbers.

> >http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> >So. It's official, 3 digit numbers are NASCAR legal.

> So?  No one(to my knowledge) said that they WEREN'T legal.  However, the
person
> who has volunteered to compil the entry list and car set doesn't like
3-digit
> cars.  Doesn't matter to me either way, but I can respect his opinion.

> Eldred
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> A friend of mine is involved in a fund-raiser walk-a-thon for research to
cure
> *** cancer.  If you can, please go to my homepage and see how to make a
> donation.  Thank you.

> Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Stuart Becktel

RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

by Stuart Becktel » Sat, 04 May 2002 04:28:02

NASCAR didn't allow Darrell Waltrip to run the #300 in '98, so it was
illegal.

SimRace

RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

by SimRace » Sat, 04 May 2002 04:47:54


Actually, I think NASCAR said no numbers 200 or above when DW tried to run
Tim Flock's old number a while back. I think 3 digit numbers in the 100's
are acceptable though somewhat rare.

Richard

RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

by Richard » Sat, 04 May 2002 04:59:02

Why don't we give this thread a single digit salute?
;-)

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by John Simmon » Sat, 04 May 2002 06:06:14

I never said it wasn't legal.  I just said it wasn't *typical*, and
that's Busch, NOT Winston Cup...

Besides that, the reasons I cited for not using 3-digit numbers (1xx and
3xx) were sim-related.



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by John Simmon » Sat, 04 May 2002 06:21:43


says...

Throwing a fit?  I prefer to think of it as being very opinionated.
Throwing a fit would be something along the lines of threatening not to
race in RASCAR if everyone doesn't stop using 3-digit numbers.

As far as paint jobs, (and remember, this is just my opinion) some of
them are severely lacking in quality, completeness, and/or realism.

I have three cars in the current RASCAR set that are nothing more than a
single-color with a car number on them:

  A) I changed Ed's so I could see the number better - the car is darker
and the number is yellow with red trim.

  B) I changed Tony Rickjard's, but only enough to see the numbers
better.  BTW Tony, what is that green snake thing on the side of your
car?

  C) The green #99 and primer #45 are still in their original
configurations, but I'll eventually get to them too (unless they come up
with something new in the interim).

I have two (or maybe three) that don't conform to nascar-mandated number
positions/size.  I haven't changed any of them.

I made an offer to paint cars for people (and indeed have several that
are already available), and some folks have taken me up on it (#1, #9,
and #28).  

I even re-painted a couple without any formal (or informal) request by
the drivers (#49, and #55) and posted them if they want to use them.  

I stopped saying anything about it and just taking care of it on my end.  
If there's a specific sponsor involved, I try to keep it, but I'm not
adverse to just re-doing the whole car if I get compeletely annoyed with
it.

If I'm gonna be following everyone around during cautions, I at least
want something pleasant and at least close to realistic to stare at.

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by Goy Larse » Sat, 04 May 2002 06:41:03


> If I'm gonna be following everyone around during cautions, I at least
> want something pleasant and at least close to realistic to stare at.

ROFL, now that's the JS we all know and love :-)

Sorry to disappoint you John, but "my" number has been taken, both of
them, so my car will have a 3 digit number, 311

3 for Dale and 11 for Larry Perkins, a Castrol Commodore.....oh well,
almost, Castrol Chevy, *with* the black hood :-), thx to all who pointed
me in the right direction, found enough pics of Larry's early car to
have it done properly

Beers and cheers
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RASCAR: Trying to end the 3 digit number debate.

by Tony Rickar » Sat, 04 May 2002 06:49:42


>   B) I changed Tony Rickard's, but only enough to see the numbers
> better.  BTW Tony, what is that green snake thing on the side of your
> car?

Well I guess I break all your stock car painting rules John.

This car is an Alfa Romeo (not a Ford, Pontiac, Dodge or Chevrolet) so there is
one rule broken.
The numbers are as we see on touring cars or other car racing series in Europe.
Recognition is by colour schemes and subtle differences (like door mirror
colours or bumper trim) between team mates.

The symbols of the Alfa Romeo badge are symbols of Milan - the snake is from the
Visconti family crest that represented the virtues of military effort, i.e., to
devour your enemy. The left part of the badge is the red cross on white
background which recalls the heroic deeds of the Milanese Giovanni da Rho during
the First Crusades of the 11th century

ALFA stands for Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili - Romeo was added when
Nicola Romeo took ownership of ALFA.

Be prepared to be devoured...

So pure fantasy John - the concept of pretty but fragile Alfa Romeos in Nascar
seems rather far fetched - then again we have got used to Ferraris being more
reliable than Mercedes in F1...

Cheers

Tony


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