rec.autos.simulators

What is currently the most popular brand of sound card for ***?

How can Papyrus have issues with these?

Sal V.

Rendition verite 2200

Sound Blaster 16

Play IndyCar Racing 2

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Milhouse

    Very simple,  'if' either of these pieces of hardware cheat to acheive
their preformance levels, it will hamper a legal program trying to interface
through them.  I suspect both SB and Nvidia are pushing the limits on their
hardware, and that creates problems for programs that need the resources
that the hardware is gobbling up.  Now do you alter your program to cater to
hardware manufacturers that are not following protocols or do you write your
program properly and expect the Hardware folks to get their act together?
dave henrie

Sorry I don't buy it.

Sal V.

Yea, both Nvidia and Creative have been accused of robbing the PCI bus (SB
Live!, don't know about Audigy). Nvidia's more recent drivers have been
found to get better performance by hogging the bus. You hog the bus and it
will cause problems for other peripherals, like soundcards.

Why would a video driver impact sound?  Go figure, but it definitely
made a difference.  Don't know what version of the drivers these are,
but it's something like 14.xx

IMO, most of the driver "improvements" we get are the result of
software authors who are recoding to optimise performance in popular
benchmarking software.

Gerald

   Not to worry, It is just a supposition on my part, but keep digging, you
may find little bits of truth in my theory.  Even some new messges in this
thread kinda support it.
  Yes most games on most systems will be ok, but as the stress levels reach
higher and higher for both the hardware and software, odd things like sound
corruption will occur.  People who have changed VIDEO drivers have fixed
sound problems....what does that tell you?
dave henrie

Because Nvidia's latest drivers are hogging the bus so they can claim it is
the fastest card, when in fact the Radeon 8500 is. Well, pre-GF4 anyway.

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Biz

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   Yes there are plenty of users like yourself with no hassles, but too many
others that DO have problems to ignore the situation.
  I would think the first thing to do is make sure the vid card and sound
card have their own IRQ assignment.  One thing I remember from the old
Rendition days of overclocking the Verite` boards was to keep the vid card
and sound card as FAR apart as possible.  Definately NEVER have the sound
card nestled up to the vid card in the very next pci slot.
  (but don't worry, there will be plenty of guys chip in now who will say
they have always had the two side by side with no worries...)
dave henrie  :)

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Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash

Now I'll add another twist. I installed N2k2 Season on my old PC which has a
completely different hardware spec and get the same results, popping /
crackling audio. I will now list the major components of two completely
different machines that produce the same audio problems.

Machine # 1

Intel D850GB motherboard
P4 1.7 Ghz
512 Rambus
nVidia GeForce 3 TI 500
Creative SB Audigy using 4 speaker Digital output to Creative FPS2000
Digital
Windows XP Home

Machine # 2

Abit BE6-II motherboard
PIII 800 Mhz
256 PC100 Ram
nVidia GeForce 2 Ultra
Philips Acoustic Edge PSC706 using 2 speakers analog
Windows 98 SE

I still feel it's the software but I do understand what you guys are saying
about pushing hardware to the limits as far as programing  drivers goes. But
the facts are the facts. N2k2 is the common denominator in this equation.

Sal V.

issues, outdated drivers, out
virutally all those problems go
usually minimized or even
but where it should be.