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by **Stuart Becktel** » Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:00:00

I have 20 GBs and have no space left, if you play a lot of games like me,
HL, GPL, N2 and take replays, you lose space really quickly, my GPL
directory is over 3 gigs because of replays.
-Stuart Becktell

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> >Are you out of your tiny little mind? You actually refused 37.5Gb for a
> >17.5Gb disk?

> >Some people...

> >M

> Yeah, but SCSI-2 or IDE. I can honestly say i'd have trouble filling 17GB.
I'd
> go for the SCSi-2 as well.

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by **Stuart Becktel** » Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:00:00

their problem?

Maybe they don't stock SCSI DVDs...

Why not just swap the HDs since you are such an expert because you are
getting SCSI. What are you going to be running anyways? GPL and N2 would be
a little faster on SCSI, but you need to run something more hardware
intensive to use it. And you are getting NT right?

If they only have SCSI onboard, and they only have DVD IDE ones, then it
isn't possible.

by **Adria** » Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:00:00

what is that suppose to mean?

by **Adria** » Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:00:00

nah it's really not though

by **AKH** » Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:00:00

So the deciding factor is you'd rather have ~less~ HD space? hmmmmmmm

AKH

> Actually no. I got a SCSI HD cause with the PIII 600. I got either get a
> ATA33 5400RPM 37.5GBs HD or an Ultra Wide SCSI2 HD with 17.5GBs. What am I
> going to do with 37.5GBs? Store the national archives? since the the SCSI2
> HD costs as much as the other one, I decided to get the SCSI. If wouldn't
> have been "forced to" I would have never gotten a SCSI HD. And I am sure u
> would have done the same.

> schumacher

> > >1) They're blowin smoke up yer ass...

> > > There IS such a thing as a SCSI2 DVD drive.

> > The possibility is that they don't have any SCSI2 DVD drives as an option
> > for their systems. I can't call my account manager to confirm it but it
> > seems likely.

> > Anyway... I bet that "Schumacher" only got SCSI because he heard it was
> > faster. If he actually knew enough about the whole deal he wouldn't have
> > complained here hed have talked to Dell.

> > M

by **Dave Hawn** » Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:00:00

> That's because they don't want to sell you a fully loaded system. If they
> do, then the buyer will come back complaining that he/she can't upgrade. A
> very smart move on dell's part...
> If you buy the dell.....

...... Your one sad munchkin!

DH

by **John P. Wilso** » Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Now on eBay: The Stuart Becktell Video Collection... (j/k)

--
- John P. Wilson :|:

- Manager, Computer Renaissance: Round Rock, TX
- http://www.computerrenaissance.com/

by **drbo..** » Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:00:00

>> Today I get a phone call from Dell telling me how my order is illegal.
>They
>> say that I have choose between my DVD or SCSI2 HD. They said that SCSIHDs
>> are not compatible with DVDS. So if I want to keep my SCSI I have to
>replace
>> my DVD with a CD-R which I don't want. And if I want to keep my DVD I have
>> to replace my 17.5GB SCSI2 10000RPM with a 5400 37.5GBs HD. What the > is
>their problem?

Dell seems to do a lot of special "Dell" stuff. They can be a
*** to upgrade. My struggles doing so with my Dell convinced me to
build my own. These days it's pretty trivial with an ATX
m'board/case.

Just be sure to set the drive jumpers right. DAMHIK.

bob

by **John Walla** » Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Mmmm, if I won that 18m on the lottery I know I'd never spend it, so
I'd probably just take 9m....

<ahem>

Cheers!
John

by **Meij** » Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:00:00

But if my memory serves me correctly you're all hot for SCSI-2 anyway.
However if you were told you couldn't have DVD with SCSI-2 and really
wanted DVD would you honestly turn down the 37.5Gb IDE drive?

Schumacher is just being stupid, with SCSI-2 he gets less disk space and
fails to get the DVD drive he apparently wanted. Bad monkey

M

p.s.

Next time try not to post my header when you reply to my posts, newbie :P

by **Stuart Becktel** » Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:00:00

> > I have 20 GBs and have no space left, if you play a lot of games like
me,
> > HL, GPL, N2 and take replays, you lose space really quickly, my GPL
> > directory is over 3 gigs because of replays.
> > -Stuart Becktell

> Now on eBay: The Stuart Becktell Video Collection... (j/k)

> --
> - John P. Wilson :|:

> - Manager, Computer Renaissance: Round Rock, TX
> - http://www.computerrenaissance.com/

by **Adria** » Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:00:00

In my immediate family, we've had...5 dells in the past 8 years. We never
had any problems with any of them, the tech support was always great.
Upgrading was a breeze...

true, but if you put a***in on the motherboard, where you weren't
suppose to...poof....$150 down the drain as soon as the power switch is
flipped.

jumpers on the hd? That's ancient history on a lot of drives these
days...especially the scsi's...

by **Adria** » Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:00:00

I would take the scsi-2
once i get the computer i would add the dvd (scsi or ide)
then i would spend an extra $300 and get a huge ide drive for storage.
Then I would go to Meiji show him how fast my system is with scsi and how
much storage space i have and then i'd say "told ya so."

He gets scsi-2, and the ability to add a huge ide drive whenever he feels
like it
He doesn't get the dvd with the computer, but can add it later

by **Adria** » Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Completely different
If you won the lottery and you could have 18m, but it had to be over a 70
year period or you could have the 9m right then and there
which would you chose then?

The scsi is faster and he's making a wise decision
you can always add more storage later, but it's much harder to redo your
computer with the scsi as the boot drive.

by **Meij** » Sat, 28 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Like I said... he *wanted* DVD in particular but wasn't fussy over SCSI-2
or IDE. Now to my mind it is idiotic to say that I'll skip the feature I
really want because the drive that I have to take with it is *too big*...
Sorry, it doesn't make sense.

Anyway, I know SCSI-2 is faster, I never said otherwise, my argument was
that Schumacher was a moron, nothing else.

M