rec.autos.simulators

> It not only handles sound files, but lets you use an alternate EXE file
> for launching the sim (mostly for the No-CD guys, but since the 330 mod
> has it's own version of the NR2003 EXE, it works for that too).  It also
> lets you run from multiple installs of the sim.

>> Doesnt Simmons Player Picker proggy accomplish this and more?  I think
>> you'll need to copy the NR2003 sound directory back from the CD then
>> install
>> PP using multiple sound directories options.  I could be way off but I
>> think
>> I had to do something similar when the TA mod arrived.

>> Where is Dave Henrie when ya need him :)

>> Mitch

>> >>>I installed the 330 mod and the sound overwrote the Winston sound as
>> >>>well. Can anyone tell me how to keep the original sound in WC and the
>> >>>Ferrari sounds in the 330 mod?

>> >> The 330 Mod has its own exe. Therefore I think you are launching the
>> >> 330
>> >> mod and selecting WC.

> Excellent tool John. I am beginning to figure it out. It looks as though
> when I installed the 330 it overwrote the Nascar sound. I believe if
> someone were to email me the Nascar original sound folder and it's
> contents I could just add that into the directory structure and name it
> eg. Win_cup or sorry, Next_cup :-) Then add it to the picker right? If
> anyone has the original sound directory they could email to me I would be
> grateful. Otherwise I will have to do an install on another drive to get
> it. Thanks all for the help.

>> It not only handles sound files, but lets you use an alternate EXE file
>> for launching the sim (mostly for the No-CD guys, but since the 330 mod
>> has it's own version of the NR2003 EXE, it works for that too).  It also
>> lets you run from multiple installs of the sim.

>>> Doesnt Simmons Player Picker proggy accomplish this and more?  I think
>>> you'll need to copy the NR2003 sound directory back from the CD then
>>> install
>>> PP using multiple sound directories options.  I could be way off but I
>>> think
>>> I had to do something similar when the TA mod arrived.

>>> Where is Dave Henrie when ya need him :)

>>> Mitch

>>> >>>I installed the 330 mod and the sound overwrote the Winston sound as
>>> >>>well. Can anyone tell me how to keep the original sound in WC and the
>>> >>>Ferrari sounds in the 330 mod?

>>> >> The 330 Mod has its own exe. Therefore I think you are launching the
>>> >> 330
>>> >> mod and selecting WC.

>I just looked at my sound directory but I dont have the original sounds
>anymore.  I think Im using Achim's sounds for TA.  Its 44MB but Id be happy
>to send it to ya.  You dont need to install NR2003 on another drive just
>rename the install dir during setup.

> Mitch

>> Excellent tool John. I am beginning to figure it out. It looks as though
>> when I installed the 330 it overwrote the Nascar sound. I believe if
>> someone were to email me the Nascar original sound folder and it's
>> contents I could just add that into the directory structure and name it
>> eg. Win_cup or sorry, Next_cup :-) Then add it to the picker right? If
>> anyone has the original sound directory they could email to me I would be
>> grateful. Otherwise I will have to do an install on another drive to get
>> it. Thanks all for the help.

>>> It not only handles sound files, but lets you use an alternate EXE file
>>> for launching the sim (mostly for the No-CD guys, but since the 330 mod
>>> has it's own version of the NR2003 EXE, it works for that too).  It also
>>> lets you run from multiple installs of the sim.

>>>> Doesnt Simmons Player Picker proggy accomplish this and more?  I think
>>>> you'll need to copy the NR2003 sound directory back from the CD then
>>>> install
>>>> PP using multiple sound directories options.  I could be way off but I
>>>> think
>>>> I had to do something similar when the TA mod arrived.

>>>> Where is Dave Henrie when ya need him :)

>>>> Mitch

>>>> >>>I installed the 330 mod and the sound overwrote the Winston sound as
>>>> >>>well. Can anyone tell me how to keep the original sound in WC and
>>>> >>>the
>>>> >>>Ferrari sounds in the 330 mod?

>>>> >> The 330 Mod has its own exe. Therefore I think you are launching the
>>>> >> 330
>>>> >> mod and selecting WC.

>I dont really know what all I have in their but last time I had a fresh
>install was quite some time ago so no telling :)

> Do the install in another Dir then patch it, then copy it to your existing
> Dir and you should be ready to setup D3PP.  I cant help ya on D3PP as I
> dont use it but Im sure John or Dave will help ya out from this point
> forward.

> Mitch

>> Thanks Mitch. That is a pretty good size file! LOL I thought the sound
>> folder was merely a few wavs. Suppose I will extract Nascar to another
>> directory. Another concern I had about doing that was whether or not the
>> Papy patch altered the sound directory. Suppose I might as well patch it
>> also.

>>    I hadn't used this util in awhile so I had to go back to school to get
>> it all working.
>> First make sure you have v1.13 of the D3PPlayerPicker(I had an older
>> version).   Then when you first run it, the util should look for all your
>> sound folders.
>> Go to settings and make sure the 'use sound folders' box is checked.
>> the go to the sound tab and add a listing for each sound folder.
>> Sound_330
>> should get your Ferrari snapping nicely.
>>    When I ran the cup cars I D3PP said I didn't have a proper sound
>> folder
>> do I want to rename it sound_oem.  I said yes and then used the sound tab
>> again to assign sound_oem to the Cup cars.  I tried this with the TPTCC2
>> mod, 330p mod, and the default Winston CUp cars.  It seemed to work fine.
>> Back last spring he added an option to display player records within
>> D3PP.
>> I think this intercepted the players.rec file and kept the sim from
>> updating records...not good if you use the nascarRank site.  So I have
>> that
>> option turned off, I didn't check if the new version fixes that.

>>    The user's guide might have more information
>> http://www.paddedwall.org/d3pp/

> The sound file handling has been the biggest pain in the ass for me to
> deal with.  The first go-'round on it was too automatic for people to
> deal with, and they were always trying to head off the program by doing
> things manually.  That's why the sound handling is the way it is now
> (and I'm still not really happy with it). I literally think about it
> every day and have never been able to come up with a better way to do
> it.

> People also have a general lack of desire to read the documentation on
> the web site.  I can't really blame them, as reading the documentation
> is the last thing I want to do as well.  However, it's essential to know
> how the program works so that you can prepare to take advantage of its
> benefits. Once everything is correctly prpepared, using D3PP is fairly
> automatic.

> I wanted to make it so that D3PP relieved the user of having to worry
> about stuff, but at the same time, I wanted to make sure that the sim
> was always left in a state that would allow you to run it *without*
> having to use D3PP to do it.

> As far as the player records are concerned, nobody appears to care about
> it much (nobody's complained about it or asked when I was going to
> finish it).

> If someone wants real-time help, I have teamspeak, so all we have to do
> is arrange a time and a server to use, and I can talk them through the
> rough spots.

> Thanks for your input John. After a good nights sleep and some more
> fiddlin this afternoon I have a pretty good grasp of the picker. Had to do
> a separate install of Nascar to get the original sounds the 330 mod
> overwrote.

>>>    I hadn't used this util in awhile so I had to go back to school to
>>> get
>>> it all working.
>>> First make sure you have v1.13 of the D3PPlayerPicker(I had an older
>>> version).   Then when you first run it, the util should look for all
>>> your
>>> sound folders.
>>> Go to settings and make sure the 'use sound folders' box is checked.
>>> the go to the sound tab and add a listing for each sound folder.
>>> Sound_330
>>> should get your Ferrari snapping nicely.
>>>    When I ran the cup cars I D3PP said I didn't have a proper sound
>>> folder
>>> do I want to rename it sound_oem.  I said yes and then used the sound
>>> tab
>>> again to assign sound_oem to the Cup cars.  I tried this with the TPTCC2
>>> mod, 330p mod, and the default Winston CUp cars.  It seemed to work
>>> fine.
>>> Back last spring he added an option to display player records within
>>> D3PP.
>>> I think this intercepted the players.rec file and kept the sim from
>>> updating records...not good if you use the nascarRank site.  So I have
>>> that
>>> option turned off, I didn't check if the new version fixes that.

>>>    The user's guide might have more information
>>> http://www.paddedwall.org/d3pp/

>> The sound file handling has been the biggest pain in the ass for me to
>> deal with.  The first go-'round on it was too automatic for people to
>> deal with, and they were always trying to head off the program by doing
>> things manually.  That's why the sound handling is the way it is now
>> (and I'm still not really happy with it). I literally think about it
>> every day and have never been able to come up with a better way to do
>> it.

>> People also have a general lack of desire to read the documentation on
>> the web site.  I can't really blame them, as reading the documentation
>> is the last thing I want to do as well.  However, it's essential to know
>> how the program works so that you can prepare to take advantage of its
>> benefits. Once everything is correctly prpepared, using D3PP is fairly
>> automatic.

>> I wanted to make it so that D3PP relieved the user of having to worry
>> about stuff, but at the same time, I wanted to make sure that the sim
>> was always left in a state that would allow you to run it *without*
>> having to use D3PP to do it.

>> As far as the player records are concerned, nobody appears to care about
>> it much (nobody's complained about it or asked when I was going to
>> finish it).

>> If someone wants real-time help, I have teamspeak, so all we have to do
>> is arrange a time and a server to use, and I can talk them through the
>> rough spots.