<Oh well, at least it looks good. Thats what real gamers want, right?>
I think it's the gamers' equivalent of the old hot rod adage: "if it
don't go, CHROME it!"
Bart Brown
<Oh well, at least it looks good. Thats what real gamers want, right?>
I think it's the gamers' equivalent of the old hot rod adage: "if it
don't go, CHROME it!"
Bart Brown
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:34:57 GMT, "Ken Beard"
>So CPR can be had for an effective $15 or so if you look around.
You can find a printable copy of the rebate slip on the MS CPR web
pages (URL below). So even if the copy you buy doesn't have the
sticker on it, you can get the rebate. The rebate is effective on
purchases dated 2/15/98 - 9/30/98.
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
I'll now leave it to the "loyalist forces" and the members of the
"anti-Microsoft cabal" to debate whether those dates indicate that CPR
2 will be released in October (extra credit for Joe if he can
determine if October constitutes "late 1998") or if it will just take
that long to unload this stinker...
Hey, guys, its just a game! ;)
Before you send me UCE, I know what you're thinking... Did he complain
to five or six postmasters last month? Now, you must ask yourself one
question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do you, punk?
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 15:44:54 +0000, Barton Spencer Brown
(edit)
Bart, I love it! "Involuntary beta testers"! Excuse
the expropriation if I decide to start using the
phase in my signature.
BTW, I intend never to buy another MS product
if I can reasonably avoid it. I'm not a Microsoft-hater,
I'm just not a glutton for punishment. Companies
whose Support is UnSupportive only***me once.
Except for AST, who screwed me so many times by
the purchase of a single computer as to make a
prison gang*** seem like high tea. But that's
another story....
Michael Tracy
Joe
Cheers!
John
CPR eventually was released in England on Friday 20th Feb. I had been
phoning MS regularly sionce before xmas trying to find out when the release
date was and it kept on getting delayed.
I thought the hold up might have been due to MS attempting to put right some
of the problems from the originally released version (which I have read
about here). Having now had a brief chance to have a go I don't think
anything has been changed, so the reason for the hold-up seems a little
strange.
--
Peter Hooper
>With the developing team of CPR gone from MS, what is the "real"
>likelihood of there being a version 2 from MS? It would almost seem
>that the "dumping" of the current product could be an indication that MS
>has decided not to pursue version 2. I highly doubt that they would be
>dumping the product only 4 months in to it's life. What happened to the
>European release?
>--
>**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
> Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 15:44:54 +0000, Barton Spencer Brown
> (edit)
> >Do you think it's likely that Microsoft will give v1's involuntary beta
> >testers some kind of price break on the hypothetical v2?
> Bart, I love it! "Involuntary beta testers"!
I hereby bequeath it to you ;)
Bart
> You can find a printable copy of the rebate slip on the MS CPR web...
This is getting boring. The last thing I'll say is thousands of people are
enjoying CPR and I hope that doesn't upset you.
Dave
<<The last thing I'll say is thousands of people are enjoying CPR>>
I'm sure the marketing research is available to back that particular
claim, no? I won't climb in *that* leaky boat and pass of my opinion as
fact, but my opinion is that if many -- if not *most* -- well-seasoned
sim veterans in this NG find CPR to be (to put it as charitably as
possible) a flawed product, how do you think John Q. Christmas Daddy is
making out with it?
Considering that after two obviously less-than-successful patches and a
LOT of work by people who actually know what they're doing the sim STILL
doesn't work as advertised, and considering that most of the "thousands
of people" who just fell over themselves in the week before Christmas to
buy this sim haven't the slightest idea those patches even exist, and
still have the original, unpatched version -- which even Microsoft
admits doesn't work right -- well, how many of those thousands do you
suppose have trashed the game already, or set it aside as unplayable,
where it will gather dust until they forget about it? People subscribing
to this NG are an unusual lot, as far as games go -- they REALLY care
about them, and they'll put in the time and energy to make them work.
Your average week-before-Christmas buyer is not of that ilk, and will
simply discard what doesn't work, usually blaming his or her own
ineptness.
If thousands of people are enjoying this game (not counting the
reviewers of commercial magazines that rely on advertising dollars for
their very existence), their silence is deafening.
Bart Brown
> > Hmm............... interesting conection, wonder what Mr. Freud would
> >think. If you don't like something you should immediately find a girl. To
> >what? Talk to her about it? Take it out on her?
> > Just because somebody is pissed off at the quality of a game you assume
> >they need a life? Perhaps next time you sit down to write something, you
> >should perhaps think, a least a little bit, first.
> > Bobby Upward
> Perhaps. Perhaps I should of. Perhaps.
> I would of thought a two year old could understand my comments but I'll try
> to explain. Basically, the SAME 8 people have been making the SAME dumb ass,
> sarcastic, trying to be amusing but failing, boring, repetitive, childish,
> exaggerated, misinformed, comments for the past three months concerning CPR.
> They just did it again in their replies to my posting. The fact that they
> would harbor such deep resentment towards a piece of software and
> continually take time out of their lives to attack it on a newsgroup would
> lead any person, with the slightest bit of COMMON SENSE, to see that these
> morons probably need to get out of the house sometime. They don't even have
> to talk to a girl. Maybe they could just pick up the leaves in the garden?
> So if you and the others who responded to my post still don't understand,
> disliking a game does not mean you don't have a life. Wasting large amounts
> of time whining about it does. I'm familiar with the name John Wallace on
> this newsgroup and his opinions about CPR. We disagree almost completely but
> at least he makes a point without a load of bullshit tossed in and then
> moves on. The people I'm talking about are unable to do the same.
> If you want to bring psychology into the discussion, then I wonder what
> Freud would think of people who have a very strange, deep resentment and
> dislike of, (of all things on earth and in history to dislike) a software
> company. I'm talking about the blatant Microsoft haters. It's hard to
> believe how ridiculous this little group of people, scattered throughout
> the world, appear with their mission to attack the Evil Empire. THAT is
> where the repetitive attacks on CPR are based and most people know it.
> Again, common sense. Even Freud would probably just kick them in the ass and
> say "Get over it!!".
> David G Fisher
--
We are the Hosh! You will be assimilated! Lower your defences
and surrender! Your technological and biological distinctiveness
will be added to our own. Your culture will be adapted to
service us. Resistance is futile. Have a nice &*($ing day!
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 18:25:40 +0000, Barton Spencer Brown
>> On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 15:44:54 +0000, Barton Spencer Brown
>> (edit)
>> >Do you think it's likely that Microsoft will give v1's involuntary beta
>> >testers some kind of price break on the hypothetical v2?
>> Bart, I love it! "Involuntary beta testers"!
>Michael--
>I hereby bequeath it to you ;)
>Bart
Michael Tracy
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Lisa: "That's specious reasoning!"
Homer: "Thanks, honey."
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On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 23:08:58 +0000, Barton Spencer Brown
%% how do you think John Q. Christmas Daddy is
%making out with it?
%
Bart,
You aren't going to *believe* this, but I ran into him the other
night..
Turns out, he hates the thing too!
He said to tell you hi, <btw> ;-I
-Rob
> > One more "factual" point (lest DAVID G. FISHER thinks I'm part of
> >the "vast right wing ***"):
> > You can find a printable copy of the rebate slip on the MS CPR web...
> No, Jeff. I never said anything about a "right wing ***". What I said
> was that the same people: Yourself, Barton S.B., Ronald S., Byron F., Randy
> B., Tim, and Greg C., respond with basically the same comments to almost
> every posting related to CPR. There must be hundreds of regulars who post
> comments on sims here at r.a.s. but for some reason these names are so easy
> to recall. Maybe you can explain why.
BTW, this is a forum to discuss racing sims by exchanging OPINIONS,
okay?
It's not a marketing tool.
l8er
ronny
--
|\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather,
ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep.
|,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car,
'---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
> >I guess we'll agree to disagree -- in my opinion, you didn't try hard
> >enough <ducking> :)
> You better :-) When I think of the hours I spent (wasted?) trying to
> get the damn thing to respond in a realistic, fun or enjoyable manner,
> oooo I could.......something! ;-)
l8er
ronny
--
|\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather,
ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep.
|,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car,
'---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
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