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> Most guys including me reading this ng are/were very suspicious about
> the
> value of FF in racing sims. Well, to say it right away, I'm no longer...

> Using the MS FF wheel I was quite disappointed by MGPR which implements
> some
> nice effects, but for example ignores hitting the curbes and has only
> some
> more or less realistic effects when crossing bumps in the track.

> Then I tried the ViperRacing demo. The FF implementation in this sim is
> simply
> amazing. Beyond the usual stuff like locked brakes, on grass or dirt,
> you can
> even feel the wheight transfer. Accelerate hard and the front wheels
> turn easy,
> hit the brakes without locking up, they turn harder. During little jumps
> they
> turn easy as well.

> I'm having a hard time describing it accurately, but this sim goes far
> beyond the
> silly twitch the wheel left, then right and rattle it a bit more like in
> most
> arcade racers. It really gives the impression of driving a race car at
> the limit
> and gives usefull feedback.

> Oh, this rumour about an FF patch for GPL just made my day...

> l8er
> ronny

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>           |\      _,,,---,,_        I want to die like my Grandfather,
>    ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_              in his sleep.
>         |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'     Not like the people in his car,
>        '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)            screaming their heads off!

> Yup. Viper Racing is easily the best FF racing game available. I is many
> steps above any other racing sim FF wise.

> > Hi!

> > Most guys including me reading this ng are/were very suspicious about
> > the
> > value of FF in racing sims. Well, to say it right away, I'm no longer...

> > Using the MS FF wheel I was quite disappointed by MGPR which implements
> > some
> > nice effects, but for example ignores hitting the curbes and has only
> > some
> > more or less realistic effects when crossing bumps in the track.

> > Then I tried the ViperRacing demo. The FF implementation in this sim is
> > simply
> > amazing. Beyond the usual stuff like locked brakes, on grass or dirt,
> > you can
> > even feel the wheight transfer. Accelerate hard and the front wheels
> > turn easy,
> > hit the brakes without locking up, they turn harder. During little jumps
> > they
> > turn easy as well.

> > I'm having a hard time describing it accurately, but this sim goes far
> > beyond the
> > silly twitch the wheel left, then right and rattle it a bit more like in
> > most
> > arcade racers. It really gives the impression of driving a race car at
> > the limit
> > and gives usefull feedback.

> > Oh, this rumour about an FF patch for GPL just made my day...

> > l8er
> > ronny

> > --
> > How to get rid of censorship in German game releases
> > <http://www.gamesmania.com/german/maniac/freedom/freedom.htm>

> >           |\      _,,,---,,_        I want to die like my Grandfather,
> >    ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_              in his sleep.
> >         |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'     Not like the people in his car,
> >        '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)            screaming their heads off!

> Pat, could you tell me what type of FF wheel you are using?

> BTW, the best time I've managed after 50 laps or
> so is 1:01.  The readme says someone did a 58
> second lap - anyone else getting close to that?

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> > How does that FF wheel perform in GPL and other non-FF sims?

> Here's the scoop on GPL.  As you may know, wheels which support
> I-Force allow for auto-centering tension in the wheel for win95
> games that don't support force feedback.  All that is required
> is for the win95 game to support Direct Input.  With that said,
> GPL should allow an I-Force wheel to auto-center when using
> the direct input control option.  It doesn't.  Something in
> Papy's implementation of direct input has disabled the auto-

> Just out of curiostiy, how is that possible? DOS can read a serial port
> and whats more is that I have a CH Force FX that uses the same setup
> (joystick and serial connection) and yet works with DOS. If you're
> having problems with DOS support you may want to contact ACT Labs
> because they claim FULL DOS support (unlike the MS FF) and the use of a
> serial port is no reason for lack of DOS support.

> > > Unfortunately, since the RS wheel operates through a serial
> > > port, DOS games cannot read it.  I'm hoping for a cartridge
> > > that works through a standard joystick port.

> > Just out of curiostiy, how is that possible? DOS can read a serial port
> > and whats more is that I have a CH Force FX that uses the same setup
> > (joystick and serial connection) and yet works with DOS. If you're
> > having problems with DOS support you may want to contact ACT Labs
> > because they claim FULL DOS support (unlike the MS FF) and the use of a
> > serial port is no reason for lack of DOS support.

> The Force RS cartridge that I have does not have a
> standard joystick port connector - only a serial
> connector.  A DOS application that reads the
> joystick port will not see any controller present.

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