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I have an athlon XP 1600 & Geforce 3 ti200. I turn the graphics down to
800x600 and get reasonable 40+ frame rates.

I just can`t get a feel for the car. Tried Ferrari in season F12002 at
Monza.

I am using a MSFF wheel - using split axis.

Please help with some controller config tips. What should sensitivity &
deadzone be ?

I have set the high physics rate. Any other general configuration
suggestions ?

As I said I am no newbie I can do 1.28.xx at monza in GPL - I have
experimented with F1C but just can`t get the feel where I am pushing the car
and my abilities rather than wrestling with the config.

Maybe it is a setup thing - I used default f`12002 setup - removed some
fuel. Any top tips on setup ?

I work long hours and don`t get much spare time to experiment so I want to
get on and enjoy the game.

I want to like it - please help me.

Axis [00, 00] Dead Zone="0.00000" // Controller 1 X
Axis [00, 00] Sensitivity="0.50472"
Axis [00, 00] Center="0.50000" // 0.0=min, 0.5=center, 1.0=max (use to
correct centering or split-axis issues)

Set the "Center" value to either 0 or 1 for the axis that only has half
response.

Also, make sure speed sensitivity is set to 0. It is on the digital rates
controller screen.

Edit the .PLR file, and change the moving steering wheel from 1 to 0. It
will make all the difference, trust me.

With it set to 1, you can see a lag between your wheel, and the wheel on the
screen. With it set to 0, there is no lag, and the car handles much better.
The steering wheel still moves, though??

R.

You can't really hear the skid noise in the ISI games that well,
because its designed to sound realistic.  Now, obviously, realistic is
good.

What you don't get in a simulator, though, is the seat-of-the-pants
feel you get in a real car.  You need an alternative.  In GPL, you get
the feedback from the wheel, the visual cues to tell you whats going
on.

And the skid noise.

The skid noises means that you can *hear* the car sliding, because you
can't actually *feel* it.

Take the dry road skidding wav file from the F1 2002 GTR mod and put
it in F1C (\F1C 9902\Audio\Vehicle\)

Replace the file "internal_skid_road_dry.wav" with the GTR one.

Try it for yourself.

You can always change it back once you've got the feel of the game,
but to be honest, I prefer it this way.

Your brain sees and interprets the movements of the track in relation
to the***pit.  If you add head-movement, the***pit itself is
moving independently of your viewpoint.

It might just be too hard to take it all in until you get a feel for
the game; it still makes me feel like the car is floppier.

I'm going to try something tonight which might be perfect for me: I
remember Indycar Racing 2 had a similar thing, it was very artificial
but it was a very cool effect.  It worked only up and down--your head
did not bob from side to side, just forward and back.

I'm going to modify the head movement file to stop all side-to-side
movement, because then, I can "feel" the forces acting on the car when
braking, etc, but it won't affect my feel for the slip angle in
corners.

 Another thing I would recommend is getting TN's setups.  I can't find

Haqsau that's exactly whats been bugging me. I first though ti was mw just
steering in too much on corner entry. Where did you find TN's setups? I can
only find his F12002 ones.

Some Call Me Tim

Changed the controller settings as described above. Feels much better but
still a bit "floaty" !?!.

I will try the moving steering wheel to 0 - everyone seems to rate this.

Shish - I have the GTR mod but I have not installed it (takes cover) - I
know I know. I have extracted the relevant file from the exe and will try it
on F1C.

Thanks everybody - looking forward to trying moving wheel 0.

Just need some good setups now - anybody ?

Tried the sterring movement 0 trick last night and wow the steering is now
fantastic. It got rid of that initial understeer straight away so i gues it
was not the setup anyway. I guess the understeer on entry was due the the
wierd lag on the wheel. Very precise on turn in now and I can catch the
slides so much better

Some Call Me Tim

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Probably varies from controller to controller - with my Momo I had a
lag in the steering, changing this setting made it completely go away
:)

Andre