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DAYTONA a few words, especially to ARobe@aol

Ron R.

DAYTONA a few words, especially to ARobe@aol

by Ron R. » Fri, 05 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Jed,
        Thank you for doing what you can with daytona people on or behalf, Is
there anything we can do to help?
I would love to be able to run Daytona as well as Brickyard but only
if they are legit and realistic.
Again, on behalf of those of us who are serious about our sim racing
Thank you.
Ron R II


>All,
>Over the past couple of days there has been a frenzy over this Daytona
>Patch that has 'appeared' on the Internet.
>First of all I'd like to set some things straight.
>As far as I know, its not my patch as I never released it or uploaded
>it to and Internet server unecrypted.
>During the Beta test version I carefully vetted the testers and
>explained the reasons why they must not pass the track around.
>It IS possible that one of the Beta testers in sheer frustration over
>the Daytona issue has posted one of the early Beta versions of the
>patch.
>However, I would be grateful if someone could post a PCX grab from the
>game showing the added wall writing and new grandstand that supposedly
>is in the game. This way I can be sure in my own mind that its not my
>work. I suspect is is not as the file name is called DAYTONAB.ZIP and
>seems to be a 'hacked' patch.
>Secondly, I would like to express my congratulations to the creator of
>the track for managing to crack the file format, but also to express
>my frustration at the damage they may well be doing.
>In my own small way as the person who got the whole Daytona debate to
>a new level, I have had some fairly constructive talks with Andrew
>Gurtis at Daytona and have tried to pitch our case for Daytona very
>strongly.
>Daytona are not the bad guys in this sordid episode, but they are
>trying to protect their rights.
>After the discussions I had with them, I withdrew my Daytona patch
>because I believed that it may of actually jepordised any
>consideration that Daytona had of letting Papyrus have the license.
>However, these new patches are again jepordising the chance of the
>license being granted and the 'we don't care -***you Daytona'
>attitude is making things worse than I ever did.
>I also despair that we are getting to the stage where we will soon be
>flooded with many patches for one thing or another and the overall
>quality of these sims will be jepordised and that new bugs will be
>introduced.
>It is possible that an inexperienced user could render a track useless
>by using a util incorrectly.
>Gerhard and I worked hard to make sure that what we released was worth
>releasing and took car to make sure it enhanced, not degraded, the
>original.
>Lastly, all I ask is that people think very hard before downloading
>and Daytona patches.
>Do you really want to jepordise the chance of us getting an official
>Daytona track or any others for that fact, just so you can get a poor
>substitute made up from leftovers from other tracks?
>I'm about to e-mail Andrew Gurtis and try to convince him that I
>haven't released my patch and not to sue my arse to high hell over it.
>If it does get serious then I may have to seriously consider whether
>or not I want to continue in the sim racing world adn whether or not
>to keep The Pits going.
>At The Pits, we're on your side and we're trying to make things
>better. Don't***it up for us.

>I don't mind you having our utils on your pages, but try to refrain
>from lifting the HTML straight from The Pits.
>If you are going to scream and shout about your homepage and least
>make sure its your own.
>Thanks for listening.
>Jed
>The Pits
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/

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P. Campbe

DAYTONA a few words, especially to ARobe@aol

by P. Campbe » Fri, 05 Jul 1996 04:00:00


>***, you sir,
> And your mamma'
>You square, boring, pathetic, dud !
>Homosaywha??

My, my!  Your mastery of the English language is very becoming of you.  I'm so
impressed.

Now, may I show you the confines of my KILL file, in which you will be
residing for eternity?

Pat

P.S.--Does your mommy know you talk like that?  If not, she better be getting
some soap... :-/

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Ron R.

DAYTONA a few words, especially to ARobe@aol

by Ron R. » Fri, 05 Jul 1996 04:00:00


>OH QUIT WHINING PLEASE !!!!
> You didnt worry about jepordizing the Indy track when you turned it loose
>did you?? SO don't even preach to somebody about NOT downloading the
>Daytona Patch !!! Oh yea, we might jepordize the future release of the
>ORIGINAL Daytona track !!! Ha Ha Ha HA H A HA he he HE He he....Do you
>understand the amount of money the owners of Daytona Papyrus/Sierra
>whoever stand to make if they could ever get the copyrights straight and
>actually put the track out???? You think they're gonna say.".Umm, wait a
>minute, some guy pasted a few of our logos on a Taladega track in the
>sim..I don't think we should participate in this multi-million number of
>software sales..What do you think boss??" Ha Ha Ha ha ha he He He HE
>he.................  YOUR FIRED!!!  Get over it Jed !!!

Man oh man, What the ***** is wrong with you? Run into the wall at
Taladega/Daytona a few too many times?
It's idiots like you that are going to***it up royally for the
rest of us!
Why don't you just shut the hell up and go back to driving something
you can handle, like monaco gt at the corner arcade, and leave those
of us who give a damn alone.
So far from comparing writing styles I'd say the only crybaby around
here is you!.

Ron R II

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Ron R.

DAYTONA a few words, especially to ARobe@aol

by Ron R. » Fri, 05 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Jed,
        Thank you for doing what you can with daytona people on or behalf, Is
there anything we can do to help?
I would love to be able to run Daytona as well as Brickyard but only
if they are legit and realistic.
Again, on behalf of those of us who are serious about our sim racing
Thank you.
Ron R II


>All,
>Over the past couple of days there has been a frenzy over this Daytona
>Patch that has 'appeared' on the Internet.
>First of all I'd like to set some things straight.
>As far as I know, its not my patch as I never released it or uploaded
>it to and Internet server unecrypted.
>During the Beta test version I carefully vetted the testers and
>explained the reasons why they must not pass the track around.
>It IS possible that one of the Beta testers in sheer frustration over
>the Daytona issue has posted one of the early Beta versions of the
>patch.
>However, I would be grateful if someone could post a PCX grab from the
>game showing the added wall writing and new grandstand that supposedly
>is in the game. This way I can be sure in my own mind that its not my
>work. I suspect is is not as the file name is called DAYTONAB.ZIP and
>seems to be a 'hacked' patch.
>Secondly, I would like to express my congratulations to the creator of
>the track for managing to crack the file format, but also to express
>my frustration at the damage they may well be doing.
>In my own small way as the person who got the whole Daytona debate to
>a new level, I have had some fairly constructive talks with Andrew
>Gurtis at Daytona and have tried to pitch our case for Daytona very
>strongly.
>Daytona are not the bad guys in this sordid episode, but they are
>trying to protect their rights.
>After the discussions I had with them, I withdrew my Daytona patch
>because I believed that it may of actually jepordised any
>consideration that Daytona had of letting Papyrus have the license.
>However, these new patches are again jepordising the chance of the
>license being granted and the 'we don't care -***you Daytona'
>attitude is making things worse than I ever did.
>I also despair that we are getting to the stage where we will soon be
>flooded with many patches for one thing or another and the overall
>quality of these sims will be jepordised and that new bugs will be
>introduced.
>It is possible that an inexperienced user could render a track useless
>by using a util incorrectly.
>Gerhard and I worked hard to make sure that what we released was worth
>releasing and took car to make sure it enhanced, not degraded, the
>original.
>Lastly, all I ask is that people think very hard before downloading
>and Daytona patches.
>Do you really want to jepordise the chance of us getting an official
>Daytona track or any others for that fact, just so you can get a poor
>substitute made up from leftovers from other tracks?
>I'm about to e-mail Andrew Gurtis and try to convince him that I
>haven't released my patch and not to sue my arse to high hell over it.
>If it does get serious then I may have to seriously consider whether
>or not I want to continue in the sim racing world adn whether or not
>to keep The Pits going.
>At The Pits, we're on your side and we're trying to make things
>better. Don't***it up for us.

>I don't mind you having our utils on your pages, but try to refrain
>from lifting the HTML straight from The Pits.
>If you are going to scream and shout about your homepage and least
>make sure its your own.
>Thanks for listening.
>Jed
>The Pits
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/

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  **  Keep the shiny side up & the hammer down   **
 ***          Ron "Cougar" Riekens II            ***
****              Owner - Driver                 ****
**** Medallion Motorsports/*** Photography ****
 ***         NASS ARCA Series #96 Pontiac        ***

   ***********************************************
Ron R.

DAYTONA a few words, especially to ARobe@aol

by Ron R. » Fri, 05 Jul 1996 04:00:00



>>***, you sir,
>> And your mamma'
>>You square, boring, pathetic, dud !
>>Homosaywha??
>My, my!  Your mastery of the English language is very becoming of you.  I'm so
>impressed.
>Now, may I show you the confines of my KILL file, in which you will be
>residing for eternity?
>Pat
>P.S.--Does your mommy know you talk like that?  If not, she better be getting
>some soap... :-/

Hmmm, preferably lye soap, mayhaps laced with a wee bit of arsenic :)
Wish I had a kill file, oh yeah.
Ron R II

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Eric Jane

DAYTONA a few words, especially to ARobe@aol

by Eric Jane » Sat, 06 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Well said Jed !!! I just want to tell EVERYONE to stop looking for the
Daytona Patch, reguardless of the author! WHY you ask? Because Papyrus
(or Sierra if you prefer) all ready has a Daytona track!!!! How do I know
this? I saw the KING Richard petty playing NASCAR last night on the
RPM2night special for the grand opening of Daytona USA. And guess what
track he was racin'? YEP DAYTONA!!!!!! I nearly sh*t my pants!!!
So PLEASE show some patience and wait for the real deal. Also stop bashing
Jed - Daytona - Sega - The pits and anyone else involved it the legal
problems re. Daytona! They are on your side dummies!! Well maybe Sega
isn't. :-)

Cheers, and keep the shonny side up!!

Eric "Janiak"

Andy

DAYTONA a few words, especially to ARobe@aol

by Andy » Sun, 07 Jul 1996 04:00:00


>Well said Jed !!! I just want to tell EVERYONE to stop looking for the
>Daytona Patch, reguardless of the author! WHY you ask? Because Papyrus
>(or Sierra if you prefer) all ready has a Daytona track!!!! How do I know
>this? I saw the KING Richard petty playing NASCAR last night on the
>RPM2night special for the grand opening of Daytona USA. And guess what
>track he was racin'? YEP DAYTONA!!!!!! I nearly sh*t my pants!!!
>So PLEASE show some patience and wait for the real deal. Also stop bashing
>Jed - Daytona - Sega - The pits and anyone else involved it the legal
>problems re. Daytona! They are on your side dummies!! Well maybe Sega
>isn't. :-)
>Cheers, and keep the shonny side up!!
>Eric "Janiak"

Eric,

 Nod I saw that too but unfortunatly I think I recall Ed Martin saying
that it was for The grand opening for Daytona USA only and wouldn't
be released to the public. <sob...>

Kind of a kick in the pants for Daytona to do the P.R. thing.
But I guess it's not their fault.

Boycott  Gamedeck Companies!

Andy A.

www.***comm.net/~tomcat
***Comm Motorsports Stable

Ron R.

DAYTONA a few words, especially to ARobe@aol

by Ron R. » Mon, 08 Jul 1996 04:00:00



>>Well said Jed !!! I just want to tell EVERYONE to stop looking for the
>>Daytona Patch, reguardless of the author! WHY you ask? Because Papyrus
>>(or Sierra if you prefer) all ready has a Daytona track!!!! How do I know
>>this? I saw the KING Richard petty playing NASCAR last night on the
>>RPM2night special for the grand opening of Daytona USA. And guess what
>>track he was racin'? YEP DAYTONA!!!!!! I nearly sh*t my pants!!!
>>So PLEASE show some patience and wait for the real deal. Also stop bashing
>>Jed - Daytona - Sega - The pits and anyone else involved it the legal
>>problems re. Daytona! They are on your side dummies!! Well maybe Sega
>>isn't. :-)
>>Cheers, and keep the shonny side up!!
>>Eric "Janiak"
>Eric,
> Nod I saw that too but unfortunatly I think I recall Ed Martin saying
>that it was for The grand opening for Daytona USA only and wouldn't
>be released to the public. <sob...>
>Kind of a kick in the pants for Daytona to do the P.R. thing.
>But I guess it's not their fault.

Yeah, but with all the talk we hear about programming time and all
from programmers in general (*NOT* just Ed and them) why would they
take time to program the track unless is going to be released?

Ron R II

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Michael E. Carv

DAYTONA a few words, especially to ARobe@aol

by Michael E. Carv » Mon, 08 Jul 1996 04:00:00


: Yeah, but with all the talk we hear about programming time and all
: from programmers in general (*NOT* just Ed and them) why would they
: take time to program the track unless is going to be released?

Cuz they got paid good bucks by the Daytona USA people to do it!

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