rec.autos.simulators

> GTR2 looks a bit different using DX10.  I didn't try any other sims.  
> Seems a bit more like actual daylight instead of the perpetual foggy
> look of Simbin sims.

> All and all Id say this will be a worthy evolutionary step from XP.

> Not real pleased with the EULA from Vista but Ill wait till release to
> whine about the policies.  I sure don't like the idea of renting
> software :)

> Mitch

>> Just putting out my preliminary findings...

>> I did get and Image the pre release candidate of Vista...  & Installed
>> this on a machine I was gonna kill anyhow (figured what the hell,
>> right?). Well, Nascar Racing 2003 (papyrus) the machine would crash
>> when I was just running XP, that is at the point loading NR03 (when
>> you got into the car to drive).   Im not positive, because the
>> computer did NOT exit out of GTLegends as gracefully as I am used
>> to...  But this new OS, Just might be end of the road, for my favorite
>> game..  I will recheck tonight, but it was as if the game was on an
>> old 486 system, that was just through the menu's... of course I
>> couldn't/didn't try to drive it, since I was not done with my
>> question, will my wheel work with it...  About then I had to leave.

>> but I was surprised, since I did the UPGRADE to vista beta (not fresh
>> install) that my already installed on XP home...  Microsoft Sidewinder
>> FF Wheel and pedals do and did work, and the SW thingy worked too!?

>> So, it Plays my GTL just fine.

> Mitch

> As for my *** rig it
>> has mostly new stuff in it, but does vista support my momo racing wheel,
>> the black one not the red.

>> Mike

>> Mike

> I finally got round to trying Vista only yesterday (on a sacrificial
> box), and after the initial novelty had worn off (oooh, pretty!) I
> found myself increasingly thinking... why? Ok, there must be
> improvements under the hood, but XP is very solid in my experience,
> and despite warnings about security etc. I've always stayed clean and
> find XP very reliable. XP just works, allowing me to run the software
> I want effortlessly (unlike Win98, though still it took me quite a
> while to move to XP).

> The tightened licensing issues with Vista, and quality of XP will
> probably put me off buying it until I absolutely *have* to. I doubt
> the DX10 bells & whistles will be enough to tempt me... no matter how
> well games like Crysis might use them.

> Andrew McP

> Ive been using the same Image for XP for years and expect after installing
> Vista I will again image it for later re-install.

> Mitch

> You get the feeling that DX10 will not be offered for XP?  hmm.

> Oh and crap, Im gonna have to give it a look!!!  I didn't try GTL with
> dx10, (picked 7 out of the setup because I only have a lowly 6600gt (128)
> on this 478 2.8ghz pentium system, with 7xx meg ram, not even sure it
> "knew" about dx10...)

> I have to do some motherboard swappin to do, and try a fresh install
> Vista, see what happens when I install the sidewinder, I bet you it fails
> badly. But, I am pretty sure this box and or my other boxes I might do
> ever have Vista on (until I can afford the $300 limited-edition G25 wheel)
> will have to install the Pre Service pack 2 version of XP, install the
> wheel, then install Vista as an upgrade.

> This junk machine I'm beta testing vista on, wouldnt run NR03 with xp, &
> crashes to bios everytime I got into the car to drive.  Someone pointed to
> VIA chipset problem, so Im tossing the board for a different 478 board I
> have that has a dead onboard sound.  (everything has turned to junk
> lately). Try er again.  so much I want to try, so little friggin time...

> Someone remind me what is different about Vista & XP licensing?   I am
> probably wrong, but I was under the impression they did NOT want you to
> install XP on anymore than "one machine" (even the retail version) but
> when I had to call MS to activate, I explained to them, that my
> motherboard had died and this was just an upgrade of the original system
> (memory cpu motherboard) they let me activate it.  BTW this is the 1st
> time I did this with Pro.

> Plus the Harddrive is going bad now (I guess 4 years always on, is decent
> life on that old 200 gig'r) so I am cloning (partition magic8) the 2
> partitions onto the new drive (now I know whey I should NOT have bought
> the Hitachi drive, there was not (that I could find) any free or
> downloadable Software to "move" my system on to the new drive like my
> seagate had...  I mean from hitachi, not that I couldnt find some util on
> the net that is LIKE ghost..

> Andrew MacPherson enlightened us with:

>>> All and all Id say this will be a worthy evolutionary step from XP.

>> I finally got round to trying Vista only yesterday (on a sacrificial
>> box), and after the initial novelty had worn off (oooh, pretty!) I
>> found myself increasingly thinking... why? Ok, there must be
>> improvements under the hood, but XP is very solid in my experience,
>> and despite warnings about security etc. I've always stayed clean and
>> find XP very reliable. XP just works, allowing me to run the software
>> I want effortlessly (unlike Win98, though still it took me quite a
>> while to move to XP).

>> The tightened licensing issues with Vista, and quality of XP will
>> probably put me off buying it until I absolutely *have* to. I doubt
>> the DX10 bells & whistles will be enough to tempt me... no matter how
>> well games like Crysis might use them.

>> Andrew McP