rec.autos.simulators

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

ymenar

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by ymenar » Sun, 17 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Hi all you Brickyard fans!!!

        I don't what's the problem.  Some people like Eric T.Busch are sending
Post that I don't even no why.  WHO'S Richard Manning?????  Why does he
have some trouble??????  I'M THE ONE that post the indy track before
EVERYBODY.  I live in Canada so U.S.A. rules don't work with me. And why
do people don't like what I did???????  What's the problem with all
you????????????

P.S.: I'm going now, playing the Brickyard... Sorry for all of that
don't want to download it because it U.S.A. illegal.

        ////
        O O   Go RubensB., go J.Gordon, go J.Villeneuve, go G.Moore!!
         <     And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is
        ---    from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le
               Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand"
Nicolas Mnard "Nien Numb"
May the force be with you, always!!
Tu ne peut sous-estimer le pouvoir du c?t obscur!! (for you French
people)
Excuse me for my poor English (I'm French speaking)

wga

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by wga » Sun, 17 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Tu as raison, maudit cousin !!! Ne te laisse pas abattre par les critiques
des USA Fans ou des amerloques....
Que ceux qui ne veulent pas telecharger Indytrack ne le fassent pas.
ON S'EN FOUT !
Amitis
--
Gerald ;-)

http://web.club-internet.fr/gaubard

Paris sera toujours Paris...

Robert Johnso

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by Robert Johnso » Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:00:00


The problem(s) are both large, and small.

First the small one.

You, or whoever, posted a binary file in a non-binary newsgroup.  And to
make it worse, the file you posted is copyrighted. This has since been
corrected by those whose job that is, but if I am not mistaken, the
newsgroup ( R.A.S. ) was served notice not to do this again.  Now, I don't
know what they can do, if anything, but I did hear something about the
possible dissolution of this newsgroup if it continues.  No friends will be
made if that happens.

To quote Richard himself, he is a:

business in Savannah, GA.

This statement is still being debated though.  Pretty bad attitude for a VP
of anything.  Most likely he/she is a ***ager whose actions are not being
monitored closely enough.

before

Who knows?  Perhaps someone dropped him on his head repeatedly as a small
child.  Don't know, wasn't there.  :-)

Actually, I started giving him trouble because I could not ( and still
can't ) believe that someone would come on an international newsgroup and
admit to having in his possession an illegal copy of a the IMS expansion
pack. Then to ask for help on how to use it.  As everyone here knows,
Papyrus, the creator of the software, monitors this newsgroup pretty
closely.  Guess they know where several illegal copies are now.

And then the tone of his replies, to others as well as to me, didn't set
too well.  Toilet mouths have no place here.

Now the larger problem :

I am sorry, but I must profess ignorance of your laws.  Are there no
copyright laws in your country?  Or does Canada just not honor those of the
U.S.?  Since NAFTA is a reality, I would have thought that they did.
Perhaps not.

I am sure that there are those that do.  Since the IMS track is almost
impossible to get legally,  what you did, however I feel about it, was a
godsend to a number of people.  It is just that only one of them was
careless enough to admit having gotten it!

Some of us respect the laws of our country, some of us don't.  Some of us
don't know what they are.

Richard Mannin

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by Richard Mannin » Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Hey little Robbie, are you every going to let this thread die?

Oh yeah if i'm such a bad guy why have I gotten at least thirty e-mails
from readers of this newsgroup requesting I e-mail them a copy? I have
gotten exactly 2 negative e-mails attacking me while I have gotten ten
saying you are just pissed that you paid full price and we got it free.
I'm still looking forward to the day you look me up in the Savannah phone
directory. Here's a hint. Look under the M's for Manning!!  On second
thought maybe I should look you up

Your friend,

Richard




> >       I don't what's the problem.  Some people like Eric T.Busch are sending
> > Post that I don't even no why.    

> The problem(s) are both large, and small.

> First the small one.

> You, or whoever, posted a binary file in a non-binary newsgroup.  And to
> make it worse, the file you posted is copyrighted. This has since been
> corrected by those whose job that is, but if I am not mistaken, the
> newsgroup ( R.A.S. ) was served notice not to do this again.  Now, I
don't
> know what they can do, if anything, but I did hear something about the
> possible dissolution of this newsgroup if it continues.  No friends will
be
> made if that happens.

> > WHO'S Richard Manning?????

> To quote Richard himself, he is a:

> > 6'2",  220lb, 26 year old VP ( Vice President ) with a million dollar
> business in Savannah, GA.

> This statement is still being debated though.  Pretty bad attitude for a
VP
> of anything.  Most likely he/she is a ***ager whose actions are not
being
> monitored closely enough.

> >Why does he have some trouble??????  I'M THE ONE that post the indy
track
> before

> Who knows?  Perhaps someone dropped him on his head repeatedly as a small
> child.  Don't know, wasn't there.  :-)

> Actually, I started giving him trouble because I could not ( and still
> can't ) believe that someone would come on an international newsgroup and
> admit to having in his possession an illegal copy of a the IMS expansion
> pack. Then to ask for help on how to use it.  As everyone here knows,
> Papyrus, the creator of the software, monitors this newsgroup pretty
> closely.  Guess they know where several illegal copies are now.

> And then the tone of his replies, to others as well as to me, didn't set
> too well.  Toilet mouths have no place here.

> Now the larger problem :

> > EVERYBODY.  I live in Canada so U.S.A. rules don't work with me.

> I am sorry, but I must profess ignorance of your laws.  Are there no
> copyright laws in your country?  Or does Canada just not honor those of
the
> U.S.?  Since NAFTA is a reality, I would have thought that they did.
> Perhaps not.

> >And why do people don't like what I did???????  

> I am sure that there are those that do.  Since the IMS track is almost
> impossible to get legally,  what you did, however I feel about it, was a
> godsend to a number of people.  It is just that only one of them was
> careless enough to admit having gotten it!

> >What's the problem with all you????????????

> Some of us respect the laws of our country, some of us don't.  Some of us
> don't know what they are.

David J. Ran

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by David J. Ran » Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:00:00


>Hey little Robbie, are you every going to let this thread die?
>Oh yeah if i'm such a bad guy why have I gotten at least thirty e-mails
>from readers of this newsgroup requesting I e-mail them a copy? I have
>gotten exactly 2 negative e-mails attacking me while I have gotten ten
>saying you are just pissed that you paid full price and we got it free.
>I'm still looking forward to the day you look me up in the Savannah phone
>directory. Here's a hint. Look under the M's for Manning!!  On second
>thought maybe I should look you up
>Your friend,
>Richard

NEWS FLASH:  

        Vice President for (company name here) arrested early this morning for
stalking a local man over an argument on a Interent Usenet group
relating to a computer video game. Richard Manning has been detained
and is awaiting trial in the county jail under close watch by a team
of psychiatrists.His lawyer refuses to answer any questions except to
say "this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. What a
complete moron." More details as they become available.

Again, I couldn't resist :)

David Range

typho

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by typho » Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:00:00


>You, or whoever, posted a binary file in a non-binary newsgroup.  And to
>make it worse, the file you posted is copyrighted. This has since been
>corrected by those whose job that is, but if I am not mistaken, the
>newsgroup ( R.A.S. ) was served notice not to do this again.  Now, I don't
>know what they can do, if anything, but I did hear something about the
>possible dissolution of this newsgroup if it continues.  No friends will be
>made if that happens.

I can't help but feel pseudo-responsible for this *fiasco*. It was MY
response post to a newbie question regarding the Brickyard track that
had triggered YMENARD's action of uploading the illegal binary. I want
to make a few things clear.

A. I do not know YMENARD or R Manning.
B. I have a legal copy of Indianapolis, (found at a Wal-Mart bargain
bin)  and I have NEVER transmitted it over the Net.
C. I do not condone software piracy. I am not a hacker or pirate, just
a simple die hard gamer that has paid for every game currently on his
HD.
D. I would HATE to see rec.autos.simulators dissolve because of user's
ignorance of the law.


Steve Smit

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by Steve Smit » Mon, 18 Nov 1996 04:00:00


You are a class A f*ckwit :)  Do you think that Canada doesn't have any
laws related to copyright?

All you've done is to start a flame war about posting binaries in non-
binary groups and on copyright issues.

I hope that someone reports you to your ISP and gets your account
terminated.

Guy Brossea

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by Guy Brossea » Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:00:00



> > EVERYBODY.  I live in Canada so U.S.A. rules don't work with me.

> I am sorry, but I must profess ignorance of your laws.  Are there no
> copyright laws in your country?  Or does Canada just not honor those of the
> U.S.?  Since NAFTA is a reality, I would have thought that they did.
> Perhaps not.

>Of course there are copyright laws in Canada. This kid just doesn't know

that software pirating is illegal. He's only six***, and acts like
twelve. Maybe it is just a waste of time explaining copyright laws to
him.

Guy Brosseau

ymenar

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by ymenar » Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Hi all you Birckyard fans,

        I was wondering something.  Who is on my side??  Richard Manning or
Robert Johnson.  One has the track legally, the other not??  Who's
who??  You could also , each of one, send me a post or E-Mail on your
position.  Thanks a lot.

REMEMBER, I'm the first that posted it, and I feel free that everybody
else could post it.  If a web page want's to put it, it's ok.  But just
put my name in the description of the track(ex:  Yves Menard (real name)
had the guts of posting it, so thanks him because it would not be there
if he ain't post it at first!!!)

        ////
        O O   Go RubensB., go J.Gordon, go J.Villeneuve, go G.Moore!!
         <     And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is
        ---    from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le
               Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand"
Nicolas Mnard "Nien Numb"
May the force be with you, always!!
Tu ne peut sous-estimer le pouvoir du c?t obscur!! (for you French
people)
Excuse me for my poor English (I'm French speaking)

ymenar

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by ymenar » Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Hi all you Brickyard fans,
        Hope your all playing day and night on the new track.  If some people
missed the post E-mail me, I would be happy to send it to you.  It's
only 382 kb.  If people have some problems with the track E-mail me on
the problem.  And also, I'm not in jail now.  I think that Sierra guys
or Indianapolis Motor Speedway guys don't pay any more attention to an
old track that simracing people wan't to play with.  I did not have a
E-mail or a post from them (hope not!!).  Also, I was wondering if Adam
Levesque (Nascar2 guy) is French.  I think that he lives near Boston so
we never know.  Sierra said to a web site (Don't remember the name) that
had Las Vegas and Mantorp track to not publish them any more.  I think
it's because they are New track, not from an old existent track like
Indy.  So thanks to all that have it and good race,

REMEMBER, I'm the first that posted it, and I feel free that everybody
else could post it.  If a web page want's to put it, it's ok.  But just
put my name in the description of the track(ex:  Yves Menard (real name)
had the guts of posting it, so thanks him because it would not be there
if he ain't post it at first!!!)

        ////
        O O   Go RubensB., go J.Gordon, go J.Villeneuve, go G.Moore!!
         <     And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is
        ---    from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le
               Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand"
Nicolas Mnard "Nien Numb"
May the force be with you, always!!
Tu ne peut sous-estimer le pouvoir du c?t obscur!! (for you French
people)
Excuse me for my poor English (I'm French speaking)

ymenar

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by ymenar » Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:00:00

HEY,

        dON'T KNOW WHY BUT THERE IS A DAMN IDIOT THAT IS TRYING TO BOMB ME.
NOT REALLY FUNNY.  DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GUY NOT HAPPY ABOUT MY INDY
TRACK POST.  BUT WHY.  I DON'T KNOW HOW MANNY TIMES I WILL SAY IT TO ALL
YOU.  I'M 16 AND TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY.  WHY ANYBODY THRUST ME??
WHY BOMBING ME.  DON'T NEED THOSE IDIOT IN R.A.S. SO GO AWAY.  THE GUY
E-MAIL ME 86 E-MAIL BUT IT DIDN'T DO ANYTHING (HE'S A GREAT HACKER, I
SEE!!).  SO DON'T MESS WITH REAL SIM RACING PEOPLE, GO PLAY ON NASCAR
FOR PLAYSTATION OR DESTRUCTION DERBY.  MAYBE YOU WILL WIN BY BOMBING
PEOPLE.  Please excuse me for the capitals.  But I was so unhappy about
this E-mail bomb.  Thanks for the comprehension(I speaking of you, real
simracing fans).

Hope you like the Brickyard.

        ////
        O O   Go RubensB., go J.Gordon, go J.Villeneuve, go G.Moore!!
         <     And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is
        ---    from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le
               Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand"
Nicolas Mnard "Nien Numb"
May the force be with you, always!!
Tu ne peut sous-estimer le pouvoir du c?t obscur!! (for you French
people)
Excuse me for my poor English (I'm French speaking)

ymenar

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by ymenar » Tue, 19 Nov 1996 04:00:00

EVERYBODY READ THIS IMPORTANT,

        I think Sierra is controling this Newsgroup.  She deletes Post that she
does not want.  Like here's an exemple.  IN Netscape 3.0 I can not find
any message about the Indianapolis track, or the Nascar2sucks. Hope it's
not real because ther's a problem here!!!  The Blue ribbon speech could
make a good paper for this.  Anyway who's in charge ofd this
Newsgroup???.  

Good races at the Brickyard,

        ////
        O O   Go RubensB., go J.Gordon, go J.Villeneuve, go G.Moore!!
         <     And all you that thinks that Jacques Villeneuve is
        ---    from Canada, your right!! He's from St-Jean sur le
               Richelieu, 30 minutes from Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

Fran?ois Mnard "Wasupe LeGrand"
Nicolas Mnard "Nien Numb"
May the force be with you, always!!
Tu ne peut sous-estimer le pouvoir du c?t obscur!! (for you French
people)
Excuse me for my poor English (I'm French speaking)

Robert Johnso

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by Robert Johnso » Wed, 20 Nov 1996 04:00:00


<paranoid stuff cut>

Please, please just stop.  

The only Sierra I ever had any contact with is a Cutlass Ceirra, and it
came in contact with my truck.

The truck and I won.

Have a paranoid day.

Robert Johnso

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by Robert Johnso » Wed, 20 Nov 1996 04:00:00


<bunch of dumb stuff cut>

One minute you are all worried about getting in trouble, the next you are
defiant.  Go ahead, trade away.  Just don't whine if you should lose your
access or your computer over this.

Have a nice day.

Tony Joh

I'M YMENARD (INDYTRACK MAN)

by Tony Joh » Wed, 20 Nov 1996 04:00:00


shooting through ***space:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

In deference to your difficulty with English, I won't touch this one
with a ten-foot pole.

In deference to your age, I won't try to explain the intricacies of
international copyright law.  Try thinking of it as you going out and
robbing a bank and then handing out the cash to people to "MAKE [them]
HAPPY".

Robin Hood is a romantic concept, but it is pretty impractical in real
life.
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