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by **Scott Moor** » Wed, 25 Jul 2001 03:21:26

> > Are you kidding, Frank? The cars don't even remotely resemble real
> > ones

> What the heck are you talking about?

Look at the front end of the cars- they all look like late 80s
Pontiacs...<g>.

Sure, it's nice- but it's not as nice as MBTR or CMR2, IMO. The lighting
effects are better in both of those, and the environments aren't as
cartoony...plus neither takes Deep Blue and a GeForce 24 to get 60-70
fps...LOL.
I knew I'd get an answer from you, Frank- you're very reliable.. ;)

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by **ymenar** » Wed, 25 Jul 2001 04:53:25

> Look at the front end of the cars- they all look like late 80s
> Pontiacs...<g>.

It's a tiny little nitpick, Scott. Like stating that the panel barge in
F1RC are incorrectly modeled, thus it's not good looking. Take a look at
the whole picture, N4 really has a great combination of realism and it's own
level of detail. :)

Well, I disliked CMR2's graphics only because they are so obvious over the
top and pointless. If for you "that" is beautiful, then so be it!

Indeed <G> :)

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by **Sjoerd de Roes** » Wed, 25 Jul 2001 05:27:55

> >Which racing game has the best graphics other than Need for Speed 5? I
know
> >many of you probably don't consider NFS5 a racing sim, but humour me if
you
> >can :)

> Not wanting to start another argument here, but IMO the PS2 game GT3
> has the best graphics of any driving game. There are individual pieces
> other games have done better here and there, but as a polished package
> no one else has put together such a fine looking game.

> Joe McGinn
> _____________________
> Radical Entertainment

A polished package? A jaggy looking(compared to dc 640*480 games) low res
game...

My vote goes to f1rc with 4xaa. Nothing beats that.

Sjoerd

by **Trygve Jense** » Wed, 25 Jul 2001 05:36:49

I am not versed very much in racing games,but I think some of the tracks in
GP3 at 1280x1024 is very good (Spa and the A1).
Probably gonna be flogged for this(and perhaps rightly for my RG
ignorance),but only my opinion:)

> Which racing game has the best graphics other than Need for Speed 5? I know
> many of you probably don't consider NFS5 a racing sim, but humour me if you
> can :)

> Stefan

by **Galley_SimRace** » Wed, 25 Jul 2001 02:56:24

> Which racing game has the best graphics other than Need for Speed 5?
> I know
> many of you probably don't consider NFS5 a racing sim, but humour me
> if you
> can :)

> Stefan

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by **Mikkel Gram-Hanse** » Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:19:53

Have a look a the upcoming Rally Trophy, it's gorgeous !!
And NFS Porsche, Mercedes Benz Truck Race and F1RC are very good looking too
IMHO.

Mikkel

> Well, this is just my opinion of course, but the following come to mind,
in no
> particular order ----

> F1 Racing Championship
> Colin MacRae Rally 2
> Rally Masters
> Mobil 1 Rally Championship
> Superbike 2001

> I don't know why, but those Rally games seem to consistently put out good
> graphics. But the best graphics overall probably belong to Superbike. I
> personally think that any of these beat NFS5 in the graphics department.
Of
> course, results may vary based upon the graphics card. I'm using a Voodoo
5.

> Bert

> > Which racing game has the best graphics other than Need for Speed 5? I
know
> > many of you probably don't consider NFS5 a racing sim, but humour me if
you
> > can :)

> > Stefan

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by **Joe6** » Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:17:01

Have you played it? The lighting, shadows, car models, and overall
polish simply aren't available on any other game, on any platform.

Joe McGinn
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by **aerospaceageinfern** » Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:21:37

<snip>

Definately. ( 2001 )

> > Which racing game has the best graphics other than Need for Speed 5? I
know
> > many of you probably don't consider NFS5 a racing sim, but humour me if
you
> > can :)

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by **mark jeangerar** » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 02:32:40

This guys is obviously insane. There are screen shots on the web that will
back me up. Why he would try to say something like that in public astounds
me. Best I've seen are WSC. You can get your hands on a copy of SBK2K&1
today though, and that should give you an indication of the top of the
field.

DGF, might I suggest Al Unser Jr. racing for your visual enjoyment?

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> No doubt about it. F1RC. RC2000 previously had the title.

> David G Fisher

> > Which racing game has the best graphics other than Need for Speed 5? I
> know
> > many of you probably don't consider NFS5 a racing sim, but humour me if
> you
> > can :)

> > Stefan

by **Thom j** » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:18:51

For now via Graphic quality would be SBK2001 & N4 with
all the graphics & resolution set to max. I will not comment
on WSC until it is avialable..
For the other 'self proclaimed beta-tester' Ms-Pac'Man will
suit better for its critical eye.. Btw: 4 of the Gpl developers
never heard of this 'beta tester'.. odd?

| This guys is obviously insane. There are screen shots on the web that will
| back me up. Why he would try to say something like that in public astounds
| me. Best I've seen are WSC. You can get your hands on a copy of SBK2K&1
| today though, and that should give you an indication of the top of the
| field.
|
| DGF, might I suggest Al Unser Jr. racing for your visual enjoyment?

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by **David G Fishe** » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:59:21

Marc's graphics comments may have been the dumbest thing I've read on here
in a long time. WSC doesn't even exist yet. Glad to see you agree with him.

SBK has fantastic graphics, but N4? Compared to F1RC? You need glasses. F1RC
has been getting massive amount of raves on it's graphics since the day the
demo appeared. It also runs smooth as silk on machines that other sims ***
on.

You're going around asking developers from Papyrus if they've heard of me?
You find it odd that they haven't? What's odd is that you'd do that. I could
care less if they have heard of me, and there's no reason why I should know
who they are either.

David G Fisher

> For now via Graphic quality would be SBK2001 & N4 with
> all the graphics & resolution set to max. I will not comment
> on WSC until it is avialable..
> For the other 'self proclaimed beta-tester' Ms-Pac'Man will
> suit better for its critical eye.. Btw: 4 of the Gpl developers
> never heard of this 'beta tester'.. odd?

> | This guys is obviously insane. There are screen shots on the web that
will
> | back me up. Why he would try to say something like that in public
astounds
> | me. Best I've seen are WSC. You can get your hands on a copy of SBK2K&1
> | today though, and that should give you an indication of the top of the
> | field.
> |
> | DGF, might I suggest Al Unser Jr. racing for your visual enjoyment?

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by **David G Fishe** » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:03:13

BTW, have you two read any of the posts in this thread besides mine?

Stop smoking the dope.

David G Fisher

> Marc's graphics comments may have been the dumbest thing I've read on here
> in a long time. WSC doesn't even exist yet. Glad to see you agree with
him.

> SBK has fantastic graphics, but N4? Compared to F1RC? You need glasses.
F1RC
> has been getting massive amount of raves on it's graphics since the day
the
> demo appeared. It also runs smooth as silk on machines that other sims
***
> on.

> You're going around asking developers from Papyrus if they've heard of me?
> You find it odd that they haven't? What's odd is that you'd do that. I
could
> care less if they have heard of me, and there's no reason why I should
know
> who they are either.

> David G Fisher

> > For now via Graphic quality would be SBK2001 & N4 with
> > all the graphics & resolution set to max. I will not comment
> > on WSC until it is avialable..
> > For the other 'self proclaimed beta-tester' Ms-Pac'Man will
> > suit better for its critical eye.. Btw: 4 of the Gpl developers
> > never heard of this 'beta tester'.. odd?

> > | This guys is obviously insane. There are screen shots on the web that
> will
> > | back me up. Why he would try to say something like that in public
> astounds
> > | me. Best I've seen are WSC. You can get your hands on a copy of
SBK2K&1
> > | today though, and that should give you an indication of the top of the
> > | field.
> > |
> > | DGF, might I suggest Al Unser Jr. racing for your visual enjoyment?

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by **Thom j** » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:00:25

I will reply once & only once in regards to your comments.
[A] I don't know Marc & his subjective opinions belongs to
he, not me..
[B] I'll never 'tear' down any sim/game with seemingly good
quality graphics but this does not make the sim good, yet!
[C] I am 'Extremely Serious' about my past & semi-present
career so when I make a comment about graphics it is not a
statement made 'lightly'!
[D] I saw really good graphics in the article and if it is better
in the sim via 3D it will be on my list to check out.
[E] I will never try or buy any Ubi-soft titles again after their
obtuse treatment to a paying customer..
[F] Lastly your name was brought up to me by them not by
me to them! It is amazing who knows what is going on here
in RAS, Vroc & Gpl. Take it for what it is worth as I really
dont care what you say or dont say in RAS.. For me, your
credibility was lost awhile ago..
-Thom_j.

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by **David G Fishe** » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:41:28

First you say, "Btw: 4 of the Gpl developers
never heard of this 'beta tester'.. odd?"

Then you say they brought my name up to you, not the other way around.
Doesn't make sense.

As you say, who cares? Who cares what goes on or is said in that tiny little
club? As for my credibility, 350 million people will again be watching the
F1 race tomorrow. Just like I proved to you after you called me a liar.

David G Fisher

> -Thom_j.

> | BTW, have you two read any of the posts in this thread besides mine?
> |
> | Stop smoking the dope.
> |
> | David G Fisher
> |
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by **Jan Verschuere** » Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:25:38

Make that 3.499.999... I'm going out to lunch. ;-)

Seriously, in what way does quoting a rather pointless (except for marketing
purposes) statistic have anything to do with credibility (yours or anyone
elses)?

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