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GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

McKafr

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by McKafr » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Hi

I was wondering if someone can able to create a camera like the one we see
in the replays on board ...

it is exactly the same camera as the 'normal' on board camera when driving,
but without***pit movement ...

is it possible ?

thanks

McKafre De La Rosa

Hena Hakkane

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by Hena Hakkane » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00


>it is exactly the same camera as the 'normal' on board camera when driving,
>but without***pit movement ...

>is it possible ?

Sure is. Just select "in-car" camera. The***pit doesn't move in replays,
like it does when driving.

Hena

McKafr

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by McKafr » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I meant I want to drive without***pit movement, not only for replays ...

Hena Hakkanen escribi en mensaje


>>it is exactly the same camera as the 'normal' on board camera when
driving,
>>but without***pit movement ...

>>is it possible ?

>Sure is. Just select "in-car" camera. The***pit doesn't move in replays,
>like it does when driving.

>Hena

Steve Blankenshi

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by Steve Blankenshi » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00


> I meant I want to drive without***pit movement, not only for replays ...

You can do it, but I think you'd still lose your mirrors.  I'll give it a
look.

Cheers,

Steve B.

Robert Grave

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by Robert Grave » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

In options, uncheck driver arms.  Its the same***pit view, and it will
help FPS too.
Mark Aisthorp

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by Mark Aisthorp » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I'd like to see one that swaps the behind the car view and the
roll bar view, so when driving pressing F10 you swap between
in car and roll bar.

alternately can anyone point me to a site with information
about making .CAM files and I'll have a go at it myself.

--
Mark
London UK
Yamaha TRX850

Steve Blankenshi

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by Steve Blankenshi » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00


OK; I had a look.  You CAN make an in-car where the***pit doesn't move,
but you lose your functioning mirrors, gauges and shifter, and the***pit
doesn't look as nice.  The wheel and arms still work fine if you like using
them.  As a plus, you get the same digital readouts at the bottom of the
screen that you get from the chase view while you're driving, so you can see
your speed, rpms, etc. while driving in-car.  If anyone wants the .cam file,
just let me know.

Cheers,

Steve B.

Kurt Steinboc

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by Kurt Steinboc » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Eeeeek!  More heresy!  To the stake with him!  I think Satan has taken
control of this newsgroup!  Can you see these things when you press f 10?

(snip)
so you can see

McKafr

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by McKafr » Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:00:00

cool

where can I dl it?

McKafre De La Rosa

Steve Blankenship escribi en mensaje ...


>> You can do it, but I think you'd still lose your mirrors.  I'll give it a
>> look.

>OK; I had a look.  You CAN make an in-car where the***pit doesn't move,
>but you lose your functioning mirrors, gauges and shifter, and the***pit
>doesn't look as nice.  The wheel and arms still work fine if you like using
>them.  As a plus, you get the same digital readouts at the bottom of the
>screen that you get from the chase view while you're driving, so you can
see
>your speed, rpms, etc. while driving in-car.  If anyone wants the .cam
file,
>just let me know.

>Cheers,

>Steve B.

McKafr

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by McKafr » Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:00:00

is not for FPS ... I think F10 drivers are faster cause they have not
***pit movement, In F10 your car is locked to the screen and you have more
feel of the car ...

want to try it inside ...

PS: btw F10 drivers are more than 30 secs faster than me at the nurburg ...
maybe i can reduce it to 25  ;)

McKafre De La Rosa

Robert Gravel escribi en mensaje ...

Jan Hoviu

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by Jan Hoviu » Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:00:00



> >it is exactly the same camera as the 'normal' on board camera when driving,
> >but without***pit movement ...

> >is it possible ?

> Sure is. Just select "in-car" camera. The***pit doesn't move in replays,
> like it does when driving.

> Hena

I wonder if this is also the reason why i notice a lot of suspension travel in
replay whilst in driving mode I don't notice it this much at all? In the
beginning whenever I watched replays (of other people or AI) that the spring
settings were way softer than mine before I noticed that in replay my own
suspension travelled a lot more in replay as it did whilst racing too!

Jan.

  J.H.Hovius.vcf
< 1K Download
Steve Blankenshi

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by Steve Blankenshi » Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:00:00


> Eeeeek!  More heresy!  To the stake with him!  I think Satan has taken
> control of this newsgroup!  Can you see these things when you press f 10?

Eeeeek!  Get that stake away from me!

Heck, I don't use the darned thing, I just responded to a question. :-)  I'm
a confirmed in-car guy, myself.  But yes, you can see the digital readouts
in F10 (chase) view, I suppose because the analog gauges don't work then.  I
can't see any advantage to the digital displays, aside from the novelty of
seeing your speed while driving.   That wears off in about 10 seconds and is
basically useless anyway.  But for anyone who has issues with the 3D
***pit's movement and wants to drive OFFLINE with an overlay-type***pit
view, it IS do-able.  By going to a more wide-angle view, you can even get
more peripheral vision, though that does *** fisheye-like things to the
perspective if you overdo it.

All in the interest of science,

Steve B.

Kurt Steinboc

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by Kurt Steinboc » Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:00:00



>> Eeeeek!  More heresy!  To the stake with him!  I think Satan has taken
>> control of this newsgroup!  Can you see these things when you press f 10?

>Eeeeek!  Get that stake away from me!

(Major Snip)

Hi, Steve --

I hope you took no offense, because none was meant!  Just having fun, and I
thought I was over-the-top enough to convey that.  I admire all the
tinkering and discovery that you and others get into.

Guards!  Put out that fire!

Kurt

Steve Blankenshi

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by Steve Blankenshi » Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:00:00


> I hope you took no offense, because none was meant!  Just having fun, and
I
> thought I was over-the-top enough to convey that.  I admire all the
> tinkering and discovery that you and others get into.

> Guards!  Put out that fire!

Hi Kurt,

None taken.  I got your drift, but some people seem to get a bit testy about
this stuff!  As for tinkering, you should see all the virtual duct tape on
my Lotus!

Cheers,

Steve B.

mark jeangerar

GPL Can someone do this? (new on board camera)

by mark jeangerar » Sun, 19 Sep 1999 04:00:00

A friend of mine made me a camera that is from a more realistic head placement. Not so low as the in the car view. It lacks in mirrors and gauges though. From this view I have learned these things about GPL.
  1.. The***pit motion confuses the issue - Because his camera angle is outside the virtual***pit the monocoque stays stationary. This increases the anticipation by about 42 gobs. Because there *is* gobs more anticipation without the dynamic***pit I can only believe they left it in to be cool. The game is much better from the realistic view angle. (Non dynamic) The car is much more realistic in a strictly reactionary sense. (More anticipation)
  2.. The low rider angle of the head makes it hard to see the front tire track - In a real car what do you see and what do you sense? Doesn't matter at all... in a recreational sim you need to do what ever it takes to simulate the experience, not the absolute physical reality. Once again the higher/further back view dominates in that you can set up, apex, and exit corners with *accuracy*. Something the stock GPL doesn't have much of. With the new view the car is much more realistic in a strictly "transference of intention to reality" sense. (More accuracy)
Overall, it feels much more real and is faster because of the anticipation. I believe it would be faster than either***pit of F10. If only they'd done it right.

--
Mark Jeangerard
www.soundchaserweb.com
New Mexico USA


> Hi

> I was wondering if someone can able to create a camera like the one we see
> in the replays on board ...

> it is exactly the same camera as the 'normal' on board camera when driving,
> but without***pit movement ...

> is it possible ?

> thanks

> McKafre De La Rosa


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