rec.autos.simulators

by **Bj?rn Nyhlé** » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Some race cars may have one actually. I saw in an incar shot of a BTCC car
that it had a small digital one, probably because of the pitlane speed
limit.

-Bj?rn

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> > Formula One cars in 1967 didn't have speedometers. The big one is the
rev
> [snip]

> Racing cars don't have speedos, full stop. How fast are you going?
> 7500 rpm in third is all you need to know...

> The big one in the middle should *always* be the rev counter.

> Jonny

by **Marko Viitane** » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

You might want to check these gauges(screenshots also in pages), if
accuracy/readability is your priority. :)

http://www.kolumbus.fi/ken.lie/gplpages/gauges.html

by **Don Scurlo** » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I was recently watching some Handi-cam in car video a friend did while driving
his car along a twisty mountain road. It was interesting to see that whenever
he used the zoom function there was a cooresponding loss in the sense of speed
as well as a loss in the ability to sense where you where laterally on the
road. When zoomed it reminded me a lot of the incar gpl view. I find the f12
rollbar view far superior to the default***pit view, but I hate not having my
analog tack and shift lever. I agree that being able to "tune" your driving
perspective would be great, and not unrealistic, as it's a bit unrealistic as
it is now.
--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.

by **Stephen Barnet** » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Err.. excuse me but I think you may need to review your research material,
if you have any.
Steve

>> Formula One cars in 1967 didn't have speedometers. The big one is the rev
>[snip]

>Racing cars don't have speedos, full stop. How fast are you going?
>7500 rpm in third is all you need to know...

>The big one in the middle should *always* be the rev counter.

>Jonny

by **Mats Lofkvis** » Sat, 11 Dec 1999 04:00:00

> > GPL has quite a narrow field of view, which makes it harder to judge
> > speed.

> On the contrary, GPL has a WIDER field of view than the natural
> perspective! This makes objects look smaller and corners farther away
> than they really are. I guess it's done for practical reasons. It allows
> you to look deeper into corners, as you would in real life. The
> trade-off is it distorts the sense of speed.

> I too would like a field-of-view button, but only to narrow it to a
> natural perspective.

What fov is natural depends on how far your eyes are from the screen.

E.g. if the picture is rendered with a 90 degrees horisontal field of
view, the perspective will be natural iff you are seated at the distance
from screen where there is a 90 degree angle between the left and right
border of the screen as seen from your eyes.

If you move closer to the screen (or use a larger monitor), a wider field
of view is needed and vice versa. That alone is a good enough reason
to make the fov adjustable.

_
Mats Lofkvist

by **Leo Landma** » Sat, 11 Dec 1999 04:00:00

> What fov is natural depends on how far your eyes are from the screen.

Ofcourse, ultimately the field of view is limited by the size of the
screen. You can't put it close to your eyes, you can't move it very far
either. But it's the perspective that throws you off, not the f.o.v.
Compare a wide angle fish-eye lens and and a narrow angle tele. Same
size picture, different perspective. GPL has slightly fish eye view.
This is immediately obvious when you drive in real life on one of the
GPL tracks. I've done that on Zandvoort, Spa and the Ring. Things are
always a lot nearer than they appear to be on the GPL screen.

--
Bye,
Leo

by **Jonny Hodgso** » Sat, 11 Dec 1999 04:00:00

> Err.. excuse me but I think you may need to review your research material,
> if you have any.

Are you going to qualify that statement, not having actually
disagreed?

> >> Formula One cars in 1967 didn't have speedometers. The big one is the rev
> >[snip]

> >Racing cars don't have speedos, full stop. How fast are you going?
> >7500 rpm in third is all you need to know...

> >The big one in the middle should *always* be the rev counter.

Jonny
Ringmeister-to-be: current best lap 9m21s

by **Stephen Barnet** » Sat, 11 Dec 1999 04:00:00

In the initial post I said that in 1967 Formula One cars did not have
speedometers. So what the hell is wrong with that. I did not say that ALL
formula cars of any period did not have speedometers, simply because I did
not want to be so pedantic. I have not gone into it, but I would hazard a
guess that some eccentric manufacturer somewhere since 1950 has used an
analogue speedo. Not to mention that the modern F1 car has telemetry that
CAN tell you the speed. But to say that racing cars do not have speedos is
clearly absurd. I am willing to bet that in the last six weeks somewhere in
the world a car has won a race with a working speedometer. The Jaguar 'C'
Type had one, the Ferrari 250 SWB had one, the McLaren F1 has one, the
Volkswagen Golf has one. I does not mean that the driver looks at it.
Get real
Steve

>> Err.. excuse me but I think you may need to review your research
material,
>> if you have any.

>Are you going to qualify that statement, not having actually
>disagreed?

>> >> Formula One cars in 1967 didn't have speedometers. The big one is the
rev
>> >[snip]

>> >Racing cars don't have speedos, full stop. How fast are you going?
>> >7500 rpm in third is all you need to know...

>> >The big one in the middle should *always* be the rev counter.

>Jonny
>Ringmeister-to-be: current best lap 9m21s

by **Obiwan Benkenob** » Sat, 11 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Ok,thanks...I was afraid of that :-)

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by **Eldre** » Mon, 13 Dec 1999 04:00:00

writes:

That's probably one reason that so many pile-ups occur in the first turn after
a short run from the start. People can't judge their speed as well, and often
hit the corner too fast. Either that, or they hit the brakes WAY too early -
surprising following drivers.

Eldred
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