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GP3 -- No wheel = No play

moonw..

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by moonw.. » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00

I finally bought the game today and I want to say I'm deeply
disappointed. Not because of the game itself, but the keyboard
controls. I don't have a wheel and I prefer keyboard to my gamepad for
racing sims.

Nobody told me before I bought GP3 that you CAN'T turn the steering
help off for keyboard. It's very silly. I'm not an amateur. I don't
want any help. The help system is very intrusive. It kicks in when I'm
going into pits, going out of pits, turning hairpins, turning chicanes
etc. It doesn't even let me spin even if I want to do it deliberately.
What's the fun if you know that can't spin out no matter how bad you
are driving? Do I have to hire Fisichella to take me out? :)

If somebody had told me about this, I wouldn't have wasted my money.
So, this is my warning to anyone who wants to buy the game and doesn't
have a wheel. I'm very sad because of this as a GP2 fan, but don't
waste your money on GP3 until you buy a wheel.

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R4

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by R4 » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00

err, let's just think about this one for a minute. Without steering help,
and playing with a keyboard, you're gonna be steering either full lock left,
full lock right or straight on.
Now d'you really think you can drive an F1 car like that? I don't think so.

As for not being able to spin, you're not pushing hard enough.


> I finally bought the game today and I want to say I'm deeply
> disappointed. Not because of the game itself, but the keyboard
> controls. I don't have a wheel and I prefer keyboard to my gamepad for
> racing sims.

> Nobody told me before I bought GP3 that you CAN'T turn the steering
> help off for keyboard. It's very silly. I'm not an amateur. I don't
> want any help. The help system is very intrusive. It kicks in when I'm
> going into pits, going out of pits, turning hairpins, turning chicanes
> etc. It doesn't even let me spin even if I want to do it deliberately.
> What's the fun if you know that can't spin out no matter how bad you
> are driving? Do I have to hire Fisichella to take me out? :)

> If somebody had told me about this, I wouldn't have wasted my money.
> So, this is my warning to anyone who wants to buy the game and doesn't
> have a wheel. I'm very sad because of this as a GP2 fan, but don't
> waste your money on GP3 until you buy a wheel.

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Rod Princ

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by Rod Princ » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00


It's been mentioned numerous times in numerous threads.

Cheers,
Rod.

L_NiN

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by L_NiN » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00

bullshit - you guys with your 'wheel only' attitude are just plain wrong. I
have until recently always used a digital gamepad to drive with - that means
either on or off just like a keyboard. Yet by pumping and tapping the
buttons (or keys) you can learn to regulate steering, braking and gas almost
as effectivly as a wheel.

again....this sounds like a case of Crammond knows best......

I saw a patch at www.alphaf1.com/gp3 that was called "driving aid enabler".
I think it was designed to turn on help in pro mode but perhaps it will also
allow you to change whatever you want also?


> I finally bought the game today and I want to say I'm deeply
> disappointed. Not because of the game itself, but the keyboard
> controls. I don't have a wheel and I prefer keyboard to my gamepad for
> racing sims.

> Nobody told me before I bought GP3 that you CAN'T turn the steering
> help off for keyboard. It's very silly. I'm not an amateur. I don't
> want any help. The help system is very intrusive. It kicks in when I'm
> going into pits, going out of pits, turning hairpins, turning chicanes
> etc. It doesn't even let me spin even if I want to do it deliberately.
> What's the fun if you know that can't spin out no matter how bad you
> are driving? Do I have to hire Fisichella to take me out? :)

> If somebody had told me about this, I wouldn't have wasted my money.
> So, this is my warning to anyone who wants to buy the game and doesn't
> have a wheel. I'm very sad because of this as a GP2 fan, but don't
> waste your money on GP3 until you buy a wheel.

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Ian

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by Ian » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Now there's a first !!!
I agree with something Greg's posted <G> :)

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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy."

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> > bullshit - you guys with your 'wheel only' attitude are just plain
wrong.
> I
> > have until recently always used a digital gamepad to drive with - that
> means
> > either on or off just like a keyboard. Yet by pumping and tapping the
> > buttons (or keys) you can learn to regulate steering, braking and gas
> almost
> > as effectivly as a wheel.

> Perhaps you should stick with Sony Playstation games then :-)

> --



Joe Marque

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by Joe Marque » Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Ever drive a car with a digital hand controller?  What do you think is
easier, a wheel and pedals (used in all cars last time I checked) or digital
hand controller?  You can't compete with a wheel driver using a digital
controller.  I know analog joystick users do quite well in GPL, but digital,
no way.

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> bullshit - you guys with your 'wheel only' attitude are just plain wrong.
I
> have until recently always used a digital gamepad to drive with - that
means
> either on or off just like a keyboard. Yet by pumping and tapping the
> buttons (or keys) you can learn to regulate steering, braking and gas
almost
> as effectivly as a wheel.

> again....this sounds like a case of Crammond knows best......

> I saw a patch at www.alphaf1.com/gp3 that was called "driving aid
enabler".
> I think it was designed to turn on help in pro mode but perhaps it will
also
> allow you to change whatever you want also?




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G

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by G » Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:00:00


I dont know why you're surprised.   The keyboard controls are
exactly the same as they are in GP2 and GP1.

Ashley McConnel

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by Ashley McConnel » Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:00:00

For a cheap solution get an analogue joystick (or even gamepad).....there is
no doubt that analogue is better for feeding in power and judging corners.
The ultimate solution is wheel and pedals, but this is a bit of an
investment.

Ashley

| I finally bought the game today and I want to say I'm deeply
| disappointed. Not because of the game itself, but the keyboard
| controls. I don't have a wheel and I prefer keyboard to my gamepad for
| racing sims.
|
| Nobody told me before I bought GP3 that you CAN'T turn the steering
| help off for keyboard. It's very silly. I'm not an amateur. I don't
| want any help. The help system is very intrusive. It kicks in when I'm
| going into pits, going out of pits, turning hairpins, turning chicanes
| etc. It doesn't even let me spin even if I want to do it deliberately.
| What's the fun if you know that can't spin out no matter how bad you
| are driving? Do I have to hire Fisichella to take me out? :)
|
| If somebody had told me about this, I wouldn't have wasted my money.
| So, this is my warning to anyone who wants to buy the game and doesn't
| have a wheel. I'm very sad because of this as a GP2 fan, but don't
| waste your money on GP3 until you buy a wheel.
|
|
| Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
| Before you buy.

Greg Cisk

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by Greg Cisk » Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Perhaps you should stick with Sony Playstation games then :-)

--


Jo Hels

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by Jo Hels » Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:00:00

So you played GP2 without steeringhelp?

Any PROOF of that?  :-) It's impossible.

Did you turn off traction control in GP3?

JoH


>I finally bought the game today and I want to say I'm deeply
>disappointed. Not because of the game itself, but the keyboard
>controls. I don't have a wheel and I prefer keyboard to my gamepad for
>racing sims.

>Nobody told me before I bought GP3 that you CAN'T turn the steering
>help off for keyboard. It's very silly. I'm not an amateur. I don't
>want any help. The help system is very intrusive. It kicks in when I'm
>going into pits, going out of pits, turning hairpins, turning chicanes
>etc. It doesn't even let me spin even if I want to do it deliberately.
>What's the fun if you know that can't spin out no matter how bad you
>are driving? Do I have to hire Fisichella to take me out? :)

>If somebody had told me about this, I wouldn't have wasted my money.
>So, this is my warning to anyone who wants to buy the game and doesn't
>have a wheel. I'm very sad because of this as a GP2 fan, but don't
>waste your money on GP3 until you buy a wheel.

>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

Ashley McConnel

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by Ashley McConnel » Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Or perhaps "chequered flag" on the speccy....i think it even had wet weather
effects if I recall !! :)

Ash



| > bullshit - you guys with your 'wheel only' attitude are just plain
wrong.
| I
| > have until recently always used a digital gamepad to drive with - that
| means
| > either on or off just like a keyboard. Yet by pumping and tapping the
| > buttons (or keys) you can learn to regulate steering, braking and gas
| almost
| > as effectivly as a wheel.
|
| Perhaps you should stick with Sony Playstation games then :-)
|
|
| --
|

|
|
|
|
|

moonw..

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by moonw.. » Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Yes, I always played GP2, F1RS, MGPRS and F12000 without any steering
help with a keyboard.

I understand that some of you guys may need the help but I don't and I
can't understand why I can't turn it off. It feels like going on rails.



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Andrew R. Gillet

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by Andrew R. Gillet » Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:00:00


> I dont know why you're surprised.   The keyboard controls are
> exactly the same as they are in GP2 and GP1.

They certainly don't seem that way to me. For keyboard control, I think
GP1 was better than GP2, and GP2 was better than GP3.

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Tom Cosgrav

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by Tom Cosgrav » Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Agreed....my one major gripe is the steering help and not being able to
switch it off for keyboards.

Tom
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Andrew R. Gillet

GP3 -- No wheel = No play

by Andrew R. Gillet » Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:00:00


> Yes, I always played GP2, F1RS, MGPRS and F12000 without any steering
> help with a keyboard.

How did you differentiate between a mild turn and almost full lock (for
hairpins)?

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Medial inferior genicular artery


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