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K7 Temperature Range?

Stephen Smit

K7 Temperature Range?

by Stephen Smit » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 06:08:46

Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.) seems
alarming.  Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing.  Is this nominal?

--Steve Smith

Bart Westr

K7 Temperature Range?

by Bart Westr » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 06:35:26


Mine is doing 62 and it seems happy :)
The monitor prog wont ring until it reaches 85....

Bart Westra

Dave Henri

K7 Temperature Range?

by Dave Henri » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:25:36

  from what I can tell,  you are right in the sweet spot.  I had a friend of
my son put in a 1.4 and it ran at 60c during coolish weather...as soon as
the high 90's(farenheit) returned, his mb started beeping and squawking and
locking up...I checked his bios and it was at 68c.    Right now he has a 20
inch box fan blowing on the sucker and got it down to 58c :)
dave henrie

Charlie Busche

K7 Temperature Range?

by Charlie Busche » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:55:47

Just mix up some brownie batter and put it in the case.. It'll suck all the
heat away and you get brownies!! Oh, it'll keep the kids occupied while you
race! <g>


>   from what I can tell,  you are right in the sweet spot.  I had a friend
of
> my son put in a 1.4 and it ran at 60c during coolish weather...as soon as
> the high 90's(farenheit) returned, his mb started beeping and squawking
and
> locking up...I checked his bios and it was at 68c.    Right now he has a
20
> inch box fan blowing on the sucker and got it down to 58c :)
> dave henrie


> > Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.)
seems
> > alarming.  Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing.  Is this
nominal?

> > --Steve Smith

Rafe McAulif

K7 Temperature Range?

by Rafe McAulif » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:48:41

Wow, those temps are pretty warm there! Anything getting into the 60's
is way too hot IMO, must be something wrong with his cooling.

50 deg isn't too bad, but with 8 fans I would have though it'd be
lower than that. Still, it's within a reasonable range. But like
others mentioned, the temp sensors can be dodgy. What mobo you using?


with the case on, but system temp is getting to 30+ deg. Obviously if
you have a higher system temp, then the cpu temp will be higher again.
Problem is, those temps can lead to big reliability probs as you've
found. so a good call with that fan there :)

Rafe Mc



>  from what I can tell,  you are right in the sweet spot.  I had a friend of
>my son put in a 1.4 and it ran at 60c during coolish weather...as soon as
>the high 90's(farenheit) returned, his mb started beeping and squawking and
>locking up...I checked his bios and it was at 68c.    Right now he has a 20
>inch box fan blowing on the sucker and got it down to 58c :)
>dave henrie


>> Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.) seems
>> alarming.  Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing.  Is this nominal?

>> --Steve Smith

Rafe McAulif

K7 Temperature Range?

by Rafe McAulif » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:53:45

Bart, I'd do something about your cooling there, that's pretty damn
hot! If it's stable for you then I guess it doesn't matter, but if you
have a hot day it may get very unhappy.

Setting your monitor at 85deg is a bad move, you'll fry the chip if it
get that hot. AMD says 90deg, but that's for the internal core. The
temp you're measuring is outside, through the ceramic packaging. For a
core temp of 90, you'll probably only read 70 on your sensor. So you
wouldn't have much room to move...

Of course, if you're talking fareinheit, then I guess its all fine :P

Rafe Mc

Marc Collin

K7 Temperature Range?

by Marc Collin » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:01:03

Steve, see my reply at Legends Central.

Marc


Bart Westr

K7 Temperature Range?

by Bart Westr » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:08:10


No it's Celsius. I forgot to say that it is an Athlon 800 though, so not
like the 1+GHz in this thread. I recently added a case fan because the cpu
sensor was up to 70 and the mobo sensor was up to 48.... The whole chassis
got very warm then, and the 2 hard drives especially, but the system was
still stable :)  With the case fan I get 36/62 and the case remains cool.
Taking off the cover has the greatest effect, it will take off another 5
degrees or so. I have that as a last resort for very hot weather :)
The 85 degrees was default in the Asus monitor program and I never changed
it.
I have this system for about a year now.

Bart

Rafe McAulif

K7 Temperature Range?

by Rafe McAulif » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:45:11

48deg system? Holy shit! No wonder you're getting some good temps.
Might as well cook a roast dinner while you're at it :D

You definitely needed some case cooling, is that single fan enough?
Just a thought - maybe your power supply fan has gone and is heating
up the case as well?

The Asus probe is pretty accurate, usually reads a bit higher than
other mobo's, so that may not be as bad as it sounds. Bottom line is
it's fairly stable anyway I guess, so no biggie. :)

Rafe Mc

Stephen Smit

K7 Temperature Range?

by Stephen Smit » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:03:19

Alex,

Thx.  I meant to say 60 C. (doh!).

The default core voltage (Asus A7V) is ca. 1.8 v (the mobo is only producing
1.9), and the BIOS won't let me go much below 1.75 (vs. 1.65 for my P3
mobo).

Yer right; it is 'burning in' a bit; the temps came down 2 C. after a couple
of hours.  (Still smells like new brake pads, tho.)

I had one of those Thermaltake "Orb" fans, but decided to go with a
conventional model and save it for my next T'bird (which will have 4 fans,
not 8).

Thx, guys, for all yer help.

--Steve


> 50c is 'ok' at full load anything over that is a bit hot, but the sensors
on
> Athlon mobos aren't very accurate and the best test of what is ok is if
it's
> stable. Also if you are useing the thermal pad that came with your
heatsink
> it will 'burn in' to some extent and your temps may drop

> To get your temp down use arctic silver thermal compound between the
> heatsink and cpu, and get a good heatsink: Thermo Engine, Taisol,
> Swiftech... And fan prefrably a delta, very loud but very afective.


1.7
> volts I 'think' the default for a 1.333 is 1.8 ish volts so you could try
> lowering it, drop the volts 0.25 at a time untill it becomes unstable,
mine
> is rock solid at 1.7v (it hasn't crashed in the 2 weeks I've had it once)
> but mega unstable at 1.675v so you are ok running at the lowest voltage
you
> can and lower voltage will lower your temps.

> Alex Cameron



> > Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.)
seems
> > alarming.  Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing.  Is this
nominal?

> > --Steve Smith

Stephen Smit

K7 Temperature Range?

by Stephen Smit » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:38:37

Marc,

Read yer reply.  You say the prob was the mobo, but you don't say what the
mobo was doing to o'heat yer CPU?  Faulty volt reg, incorrect readings...or
what?

--Steve


> Steve, see my reply at Legends Central.

> Marc



> > Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.)
seems
> > alarming.  Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing.  Is this
nominal?

> > --Steve Smith

Will DeRiver

K7 Temperature Range?

by Will DeRiver » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:42:28

Hey,

Ok, that 'conventional' model heat sink would be the cause of the relatively

(75 F), CPU is reading 44 C (111 F). This is with a GlobalWin FOP-32 HSF
running a 4400 RPM fan. I run a little program called Rain. Works pretty
good at keeping the CPU cooler, mainly when it's idle. I use Motherboard
Monitor and have the CPU alarm set to go off at 55 C. If it's a warm enough
day to set that off, i'll slow the clock and kick the voltage down.
--
In memory of DE,
- Will
- M1MS
- http://mach1.simhq.com


Stephen Smit

K7 Temperature Range?

by Stephen Smit » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:58:10

Thx, Will.  I'll install the Orb & see what obtains.


> Hey,

> Ok, that 'conventional' model heat sink would be the cause of the
relatively

> (75 F), CPU is reading 44 C (111 F). This is with a GlobalWin FOP-32 HSF
> running a 4400 RPM fan. I run a little program called Rain. Works pretty
> good at keeping the CPU cooler, mainly when it's idle. I use Motherboard
> Monitor and have the CPU alarm set to go off at 55 C. If it's a warm
enough
> day to set that off, i'll slow the clock and kick the voltage down.
> --
> In memory of DE,
> - Will
> - M1MS
> - http://mach1.simhq.com



> > Alex,

> > Thx.  I meant to say 60 C. (doh!).

> > The default core voltage (Asus A7V) is ca. 1.8 v (the mobo is only
> producing
> > 1.9), and the BIOS won't let me go much below 1.75 (vs. 1.65 for my P3
> > mobo).

> > Yer right; it is 'burning in' a bit; the temps came down 2 C. after a
> couple
> > of hours.  (Still smells like new brake pads, tho.)

> > I had one of those Thermaltake "Orb" fans, but decided to go with a
> > conventional model and save it for my next T'bird (which will have 4
fans,
> > not 8).

> > Thx, guys, for all yer help.

> > --Steve

Galley_SimRace

K7 Temperature Range?

by Galley_SimRace » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:15:58


> Just upgraded to a 1.33-GHz Thunderbird & its temp (ca. 50 deg. C.)
> seems
> alarming.  Not overclocked AND I have 8 fans a blowing.  Is this
> nominal?

> --Steve Smith

Mine's a 1.4GHz with the standard AMD fan and heatsink and only one
generic 80cm fan in the case.  It runs about 42 Celsius.
--
"Life is what you experience between racing games"
Galley
Joachim Trens

K7 Temperature Range?

by Joachim Trens » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 23:30:43

Hi Steve,

on my system, a Themalright SK6 with a Delta fan (and use ArcticSilver2
thermal paste) was 10 degrees Celsius cooler than the Orb. Make sure to go
to the ArcticSilver website before applying the paste.

Achim


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