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Perhaps the best solution would be to have different tracks in
different seasons, but what the hell...  I mean even in 1967 the cars
could race on Monza's banked section if they wanted...  Maybe it
shouldn't be included in the 1967 schedule, that's all...

A. Renault

Ray guns in Star Wars ?

;-)

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how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Cheap shot?  No, not at all, just uninformed.
Not all the teams (in fact, only a minority) had outfitted their cars
with wings for the 1967 French GP held at Rouen.
So I have no qualms about driving at Rouen at all.  Papyrus provided it
in their wisdom (which just happens to be better than that shown by the
French authorities when they chose Le Mans-Bugatti for a Grand Prix!)

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Wouldn't exactly advocate it, but if they put Sidewinders on a Fokker and an
option to use them, fine. I wouldn't necessarily use the option, but then
again, might make a hell of a lot fun in an multiplayer game if everyone
used them :)

... all it boils down to is fun. Our views of fun just might differ a bit
...

Hena

      a) set your cardboard biplane/triplane alight upon launch and
      b) utterly fail to lock on to the non jet-engines of other
         planes?

Just a thought ;-)

Uwe

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:-)

Remco

I think that's a bit of an unfair analogy, Bruce. Using the banking at
Monza is more like creating a WW2 game where say the US bombers can use
atomic bombs on an as-yet undefeated Germany in 1946.

After all, the banking *was* there in 1967, it just wasn't thought safe
to use it.

The Lotus simulated in GPL raced perfectly well at Indy with Jim Clark at
the wheel.

- Michael

Michael heeft geschreven in bericht ...

But they used the banking during the 1000km sportscar race in 1967! I have a
great pic of a Chaparral 2F on the banking during that race.

However I don't like the idea of the banking in GPL because it would be
historically incorrect

Harald

What's wrong with a "what if" scenario? After all it was historically
incorrect to use Rouen in GPL - it should have been the Le Mans Bugatti
circuit.

Anyway this is all a bit academic as it looks as though the GPL track
format is too difficult to decipher and edit. AFAIK the track editor
project is only at the stage of being to display the vertices of the
track.

- Michael

The GPL Lotus is the Type 49, powered by the Ford Cosworth 3.0 litre DFV
engine, designed and manufactured in England.

If you are referring to the Lotus which Clark raced and won with in 1965
then it was the Type 38 and was powered by a Ford pushrod engine,
designed and manufactured in the USA.

The Type 38 was what Chapman called a "tub" mode of construction: it was
not a full monocoque, unlike the 1967-built Type 49 Grand Prix car,
where the engine was actually a stressed-member of the construction.  In
the Type 38, the engine was contained within beams and did not simply
bolt to the rear bulkhead, like the Type 49.

The car that Clark raced at Indy in 1966 was 38/4, this time in STP
colours, not the Lotus green and gold.  He failed to secure back-to-back
victories due to two mid-race spins.

In 1967....the year that GPL represents and the year that the Type 49
Grand Prix car was debuted, Clark drove at Indy in 38/7, again with Ford
V8 power. His partner, Graham ill, drove the Type 42F, with the same
type of power-plant, the car being cobbled up after the Indy version of
the BRM H-16 engine was dropped.

Thanks for the info - I stand corrected...

I take it you're not in favour of someone doing an Indianapolis Speedway
track for GPL then:-)

- Michael

But no....I really wouldn't appreciate a GPL Indianapolis circuit.

HOWEVER.......if somebody (Papyrus?????) came out with package that
included the Indianapolis circuit circa the 1950s - 1960s period, and
the package included car models of the Offy-engined roadsters, then
sure....I'd be in the shop to buy it!

Wait!  Don't do it YET.  I just got OUT of debt.... :)

Eldred

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