: > Wrong, Papyrus could have made it so that it was mandatory to save a race
: > every time you <ESC> from a certain track and <yes> the save race
: > option . Therefore, the possibility of
: > 'cheating' is eliminated. So, when you <ESC> from a race to go to the
: > bathroom,etc... NASCAR shows the track menu where you can see the replay,
: > standings, etc. Now if you hit EXIT, NASCAR asks you if you want to Save
: > the race, right? Here you have the option of choosing 'yes' or 'no' or
: > 'cancel'.
: >
: > 1) Ok, you choose YES. and NASCAR saves the race (overwriting previous
: > races). When you come back from eating, shopping, classes, etc... you can
: > continue the race by going into the chosen track and selecting PREVIOUS
: > RACE, and voila, you start bunched up as if there was just a caution.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is how it is now
Below is how I would like to see it.
: > What really should happen is that you start EXACTLY the way you exited
: > (except paused).
: > 2) Suppose you choose NO. NASCAR exits to the main menu and still allows
: > the possibility of cheating. Why, because you can still choose PREVIOUS
: > RACE once coming back to that track. Suppose you come back from eating
: > and 'load' up your race. All bunched up with tire temp's at 120, you go
: > around the first corner and wreck. DOH!! Ah ha, you can just exit the
: > track, say NO to the Save race question, and reenter (selecting PREVIOUS
: > RACE) and start bunched up, etc...etc. What should happen is when you
: > select NO to the save race option, it deletes the previous race so you
: > can't cheat when you crash or whatever. Therefore, you can only save a
: > race when you say yes to the save race option and therefore not allowing
: > any cheating of that sort.
: You just missed the point, didn't you? Saving the race will put you at an
All I am saying is making
the Save Race Option like the Pause race option. Along with having the
ability to pause the race (leaving the computer on) to go to the bathroom,
there should be the ability of pausing ('Saving') the race to turn off
the computer when there is a big thunderstorm, etc...
: disadvantage that is *big enough* and will prevent you from taking the
: save-&-restore approach in a race before every major pass, etc. But say
Ok... hmmm... Lets say I decide to save a race before passing a car. Then
I resume the race. I try to pass the car on the outside and I hit the
wall and have some damage. If I exit and say YES to the save option... I
don't get anywhere, right... I still have damage when I return...
If I say NO to the save option under my guidelines, the Race is
deleted... I still don;t get anywhere because I have to start a whole new
race... there is no Previous race to restore... right?... under my ideal
guidelines mentioned above.
: you have
: a huge crash, blown engine, whatever, then it'd be advantgeous to reload
: a saved
: game. When you now start you'll of course be better off than with a
: blown engine,
: so this kind of cheating can only be prevented by the method you described,
: ie a
: NO to save game will erase the last saved game.
That was my point... I already knew about NASCAR's save race option and I
was just making a suggestion for a better way to save races without
enabling cheating.
: > I would rather have a save race feature that save(s) you(r) position and
: > attributes exactly. Ideally, one should be able to customize whether or
: > not saying NO to the save race option deletes the previous race.
: The problem is that it is a simulation, not an arcade game. When you race
agreed that it's a pretty damn good one too.
: you race to the finish, no artificial interrupts. If you can't race for
hmmm... Have you ever paused a race to watch a replay? Do you go to the
bathroom? ;)
: more than an hour a time, you just have to race shorter distances.
Ah... but then it is less of a simulation... maybe?
: I guess I'm a purist on this matter, and people will disagree with me, but
: I don't want a save option at all. It kills some of the realism just knowing
: you can save the race.
Think of it as pausing a race...
: Btw racing for 500 laps at any track is a killer and it takes a lot of
: stamina just like in the real world, and I love that. State of the art.
I know how you feel, sometimes my wheel is covered with sweat...
Consider the following:
You want to have a full race so you set Race to 100% dist. It's a really
competitive race and you steadily moving up in the field. You pass Dale
Earnhardt and he doesn't hit you... WAHOO... You're in 4th place and it's
almost half way, only 250 or so miles to go. You look up at your clock
during as you head down the backstraight... OH Shit. It's 7:30 and I have
a date with this really hot blonde chick in half an hour... What do you
do? Break the date with this really gorgeous babe or have the ability to
'pause'/'save' the race and turn off your computer knowing that when you
come back (when she's asleep... hehe) your attributes will be save correctly
and you resume the race EXACTLY the way you left it. You're in 4th
position on the backstretch and NOT bunch up.
: -- Terje Wold Johansen "I am your inferior superior." --
: -- Dept. of Informatics --
: -- University of Oslo, Norway --
Ujjal Bansel
