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RI>And as for Daytona, Sega owns the exclusive license to Daytona. My
  >understanding is that the license is up for renewal next year. Until then,
  >there will be no Daytona for NASCAR.

Really?  I assume you'll be trying very hard to get enough rights to release
the track for us players?

Also, I think Sega has aquired IMS too; I recently saw in a game magazine
an arcade game bearing the Indy name; guess whats its about?  Sega is really
starting to***me off, ya know?  <g>

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  Well, guess what Sega has now. First, DaytonaUSA, which meant no Daytona 500
for us Papyrus' Nascar Racing lovers. Now? Indy500! What a bunch of***s. I
bet those 'indycars' will fly through those 'racetracks' at 300 mph, and all
you have to do when cornering is slam on the brakes, turn in, countersteer,
and stab the gas. Just like Daytona.
 Revving the engine in Daytona results in the front end of the car bobbing up
and down. Wow! Do Winston Cup cars now use 358ci TRANSVERSE engines??? Hey,
Sega, why not make a Drag racing game while youre at it, with 50 second
quarter mile times (gotta make the most out of that $1.50 you plunked in the
machine), and heck, dont forget the machine guns.

shine until he agrees to quit destroying what used to be the greatest
race in the world.<<

Well, the greatest race in the United States anyway. I've been to Indy
and it's "okay". I'd prefer any F1 race at Monza/Imola or even a trip
to the Monaco GP or Le Mans.

There's a world across the oceans....

Cheers!
John
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S  > Subject: Re: Where's Indy (The 500)    
   >  
   > >  
   > >The Indianapolis 500 is no longer apart of IndyCar racing!  Please make
   > >sure you understand that before you post anything else.  Is is not part
   > >of the schedule nor is Phoenix or New Hampshire for upcoming schedule.
   > >
   >
   > Absolutely right. Long live the PPG Series (CART);***the
   > IRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   >
   >                                       Sandman
   >
   >
       The Cart/PPg series will be called Indycar for 1996.  I think this
is a move to head off Tony George and his band of Blackmailers.  I think
the IRL is fine, (winter racing!)  But to use the qualifying at Indy as
an Anvil to pound the CART teams is tasteless and vile.  I'd love to see
more races, but come May, if the IRL holds to its restricted qualifying,
then Alpha Mike Foxtrot.  I'll find a radio or a Prime sports channel
that will carry the Indycar race at Michigan.
       I really think we should begin pressuring ABC\Disney to NOT limit
future coverage of Indycar races.  ( I haven't said the "B" word yet, )
Dave Henrie

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Hey John,
  I prefer any NASCAR race over any F1 race.  Heck I didnt know there
was anyother world across the oceans.<GG>  
  I know one person who lives in one world and worships the other
world across the oceans and that is LES <VBG>

Cheers,
Mike

   >  
   > >-> Why can't Papyrus put out the 500 track at Indy.  Why are these  
   > >-> "Indycars" If no Indy?  Rick Genter say's lic. problems but this is
   > >-> probably a smoke screen for money.  Is Papy too cheap to ante up?
   > >-> These questions should be answered and all should question Papyrus
   > >-> until they answer.  Same for Daytona w/Nascar.  I want Indy and won't
   > >-> shut up until they produce or have a damn good answer why not!
   >
   > >        Maybe it is money.  How much extra are you and everyone who
   > >bought it willing to pay extra to get the additional track?
   >
   > Personally, I'm glad it isn't yet being offered as an add-on pack. I
   > don't want any more of my hard earned dollars going to Mr IRL than I
   > have to. Tony can take his track and stick it where the sun don't
   > shine until he agrees to quit destroying what used to be the greatest
   > race in the world.
   >
   >              Tim Wortman
   >
   >      NASSCAR '95 Series Director


   >    Visit the NASSCAR '95 home page
   >  http://www.webcom.com/twortman/nasscar/
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   >
       I agree 100 percent with your statement.  Tony George is the
Grinch who stole Indy!
Dave Henrie

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What Papyrus should do is include a 500 mile race with a track just like
Indy but not call it Indy.  Call it the Papyrus 500 or something and maybe
even allow the user to edit the name.  No licence but we still get the track.
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  >Subject: Where's Indy (The 500

DH>S  > Subject: Re: Where's Indy (The 500)
  >   >
  >   > >
  >   > >The Indianapolis 500 is no longer apart of IndyCar racing!  Please mak

  >   > >sure you understand that before you post anything else.  Is is not par

  >   > >of the schedule nor is Phoenix or New Hampshire for upcoming schedule.
  >   > >
  >   >
  >   > Absolutely right. Long live the PPG Series (CART);***the
  >   > IRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  >   >
  >   >                                       Sandman
  >   >
  >   >
  >       The Cart/PPg series will be called Indycar for 1996.  I think this
  >is a move to head off Tony George and his band of Blackmailers.  I think
  >the IRL is fine, (winter racing!)  But to use the qualifying at Indy as
  >an Anvil to pound the CART teams is tasteless and vile.  I'd love to see
  >more races, but come May, if the IRL holds to its restricted qualifying,
  >then Alpha Mike Foxtrot.  I'll find a radio or a Prime sports channel
  >that will carry the Indycar race at Michigan.
  >       I really think we should begin pressuring ABC\Disney to NOT limit
  >future coverage of Indycar races.  ( I haven't said the "B" word yet, )

It's been called IndyCar.  They dropped the CART name because no one knew
what it meant.

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        Where's the Indy 500?  I'll tell you where it is.  It's in Sega's
new driving game (Daytona, Sega Rally folllow-up) Indy 500, that's
where!  Just as with Daytona, Sega's the one that has come up with the
big bucks to secure the rights.  No big deal, seeing that Indy isn't on
the Indycar schedule anyway.  But, a few things to note:
        There are three tracks in Indy 500.  The main feature is, of
course, Indianapolis which is a pretty faithful replica of the real
thing (this I'm not really sure about, since I never got the Indy track
expansion pack.  I did play the original Indy 500 game by Papyrus
though).  However, there are two other fictitious tracks that bear
striking resemblances to real ones.  Is there a double standard here?  
Some shady design work?
        The "Highland Raceway" is a great-looking desert/mountain/forest
track.  At one portion of the track there is a very fast left-hand turn
leading uphill.  At the top of the hill, the elevation suddenly drops into
a downhill chicane followed by a medium left turn (with more runoff than
usual for a video game) then a high speed right turn.  Sound familiar?
The corkscrew maybe?  Anyone who plays this game will feel instant "deja
vu" if they've played (or even watched a race at) Laguna Seca on Indycar
1 or 2.  Is lifting parts of a track legal?  The street course is more
original, but also bares striking resemblances to Vancouver, Detroit, and
Miami...
        Despite all this, the game is pretty fun.  It features the best
graphics you'll ever see in a driving game, and the most realism since
Race Drivin' for a video game.  Of course, the simulated Indycar does
some pretty questionable things.  Wheelspin and oversteer at sixth gear?  
Sure!  Just yank the wheel to full lock!

Martin
Nigel Mansell RIP!