rec.autos.simulators

>> And while we're at it who is Godot?

>Who is John Galt?

> > > > What a great attitude. So no one out there is allowed to attempt
> anything
> > > if
> > > > they dont have a track record. So please explain how one is to obtain
> said
> > > > track record if everytime someone tries they get this kind of
> treatment.

> > > Yeah, of course they can attempt something but they can't take us for
> fools
> > > which is what the Wests' have done so far.

> > > You guys can't see it... they have you in the palm of their hand, you
> > > believe everything they say but have produced nothing in 2 or 3 years...

> > > I'll be first to congratulate them on a job well done if I can see a job
> > > that is well done, now... I see nothing!

> > And that is reason enough to put them down ? They read this newsgroup
> > and disencouragement and insults is the last thing they need.

> Yeah, I also read this group and discouragement and put downs are the last
> thing i need...

> Look, West have great intentions and I love that about them but so far I can
> give you as much of my racing sim right this minute as they can of theirs.
> (i.e. I have no sim of my own)

> I'm all for it, but after 2-3 years now and we have NOTHING, demos were
> promise 12 month + ago, I mean, everyone gets a chance and a 2nd chance and
> a third chance but you can't milk it.
> If the West's  just stop promising to include this that and the other thing,
> keep quiet and surprise us all with a demo with 1 car, on 1 track for 1 lap
> I'd be satisfied!

> Fair play to the West's but I do wish they'd either keep quiet and get on
> with developing and else show us a glimpse of some of the things they say
> they have/will have. I just find it tedious to hear all the things WSC will
> have and how it will be e the best sim ever.

> You see those claims on the cover of every sim and arcade racer alike out
> there and I'm not falling for it anymore, I personally  just can't accept
> "wishliss" as reality since I've seem so many, and I mean many, sims fail to
> deliver on these wishlists.

> My life will be no worse if WSC does not come about but look at GP3...
> everyone believed their own hype and when the sim came most were
> disappointed at the things it did NOT include.
> Eventually this sim will have to be finished and how many times have we seen
> sims released unfinished because it just took too long, er, I think almost
> all sims fall into that group.

>> I put my sim-racing faith in two entities currently:

>>     Bugbear and ISI

>> We will see true goodness from them long before WSC hits the streets.

>> That doesn't mean that we won't ever see WSC, but I'm more of an
>> agnostic-type when it comes to sims, and Bugbear and ISI have made me
>> a believer . . .

>> ;-)

>> -- JB

> I would like to understand why the word (sad) is in that sentence?

> --

> "Racing! - Science for the action minded."

> mark

> | Easy answer...the defense of the West's comes from them being one of
> us...true
> | racing sim enthusiasts, as opposed to in house developers who are gagged
> by
> | their employers.
> |
> | It's seems natural to want them to succeed.
> |
> | Marty
> |
> |

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> I would like to understand why the word (sad) is in that sentence?

> I really have to explain that?

> David G Fisher
> > > IMO, the main reason some here find complaints about the West brothers
> so
> > > offensive is because they have corresponded with them. They've chatted
> > with
> > > them, given them some opinions on what the sim should contain, and now
> > they
> > > feel they are connected with WSC in some (sad) way.

> > I would like to understand why the word (sad) is in that sentence?